Harry Potter and The Methods of Rationality

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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5782108/1/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality
Methods of rationality
is a harry potter fan-fiction. Luckily a lot of people (no, really, there's even been a readers meet-up) have been praising the work already so I can just quote them!

The basic idea is that Harry Potter's mother's sister, instead of marrying an abusive slob, married a professor of biochemistry at Oxford University, so when he gets adopted after his biological parents, Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres is brought up in a very loving family, surrounded by books on science and SF novels, and becomes a child prodigy in science before ever learning about magic. As a result, he sets about actually *analysing* how magic works, applying the scientific method to figuring out what's *really* going on.

The results of someone able to actually *think* walking through this world that has no real logic to it and pulling at the loose ends lead to some remarkably funny moments, like when Harry makes the Sorting Hat become unexpectedly sapient by wondering about it, or his total destruction of the rules of Quidditch, but what makes the book work is the fact that it gets this humour from *actually taking the world in which it's set, and its consequences, seriously* - and as a result it really does feel like the stakes in the story are high.

Here's a little sample of rational Harry talking on quidditch

"So let me get this straight," Harry said as it seemed that Ron's explanation (with associated hand gestures) was winding down. "Catching the Snitch is worth one hundred and fifty points?"

"Yeah -"

"How many ten-point goals does one side usually score not counting the Snitch?"

"Um, maybe fifteen or twenty in professional games -"

"That's just wrong. That violates every possible rule of game design. Look, the rest of this game sounds like it might make sense, sort of, for a sport I mean, but you're basically saying that catching the Snitch overwhelms almost any ordinary point spread. The two Seekers are up there flying around looking for the Snitch and usually not interacting with anyone else, spotting the Snitch first is going to be mostly luck -"

"It's not luck!" protested Ron. "You've got to keep your eyes moving in the right pattern -"

"That's not interactive, there's no back-and-forth with the other player and how much fun is it to watch someone incredibly good at moving their eyes? And then whichever Seeker gets lucky swoops in and grabs the Snitch and makes everyone else's work moot. It's like someone took a real game and grafted on this pointless extra position just so that you could be the Most Important Player without needing to really get involved or learn the rest of it. Who was the first Seeker, the King's idiot son who wanted to play Quidditch but couldn't understand the rules?" Actually, now that Harry thought about it, that seemed like a surprisingly good hypothesis. Put him on a broomstick and tell him to catch the shiny thing...

Ron's face pulled into a scowl. "If you don't like Quidditch, you don't have to make fun of it!"

"If you can't criticize, you can't optimize. I'm suggesting how to improve the game. And it's very simple. Get rid of the Snitch."


I can honestly say that i'm more emotionally invested in this work than I ever was in the original, that the characters are far better realised and more interesting than the original, the plot is far more complex and that i've learned more about rationality through this than any other work of fiction.science buff would love this thing (the reason why I opened the thread in this forum is because, book forum is dead.)
So, did you find it better than original work and if not, why?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This as a matter of fact has been suggested to me by my cousin. So, I'm actually gonna start reading right away. It is pretty popular. But okay, NOTHING, whatsoever can be better than the original Harry Potter. 😳 It's a great concept, ingenious, this one. But how can it ever be better than J.K. Freaking Rowling's idea?!
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Originally posted by: epiphany.

This as a matter of fact has been suggested to me by my cousin. So, I'm actually gonna start reading right away. It is pretty popular. But okay, NOTHING, whatsoever can be better than the original Harry Potter. 😳 It's a great concept, ingenious, this one. But how can it ever be better than J.K. Freaking Rowling's idea?!

It is a interesting take on the Rowling's work. See, Rowling didn't introduced anything new to the fantasy, if you know your fantasy, but that not to say that Rowling doesn't deserve praise. she introduced millions into reading and for that I'm grateful.
This fan-fiction had better characterization, more rational plotting and it delves into areas were original never went.
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Originally posted by: Victarion

It is a interesting take on the Rowling's work. See, Rowling didn't introduced anything new to the fantasy, if you know your fantasy, but that not to say that Rowling doesn't deserve praise. she introduced millions into reading and for that I'm grateful.
This fan-fiction had better characterization, more rational plotting and it delves into areas were original never went.




I just read the first three chapters. It's written so smartly, it would have been such a positive page-turner if it were a novel. It's so hugely popular that it almost is. But what you've understand is that the original idea is Rowling's and there wouldn't have been The Methods of Rationality if there weren't any of her books. She did not explain the scientific aspect of magic, true that. And I have always been curious to know that, let's be honest. I'd have liked to know what she thinks about it but I will make do with this exceptionally written fan fiction.

Harry Potter is all about its characters, you see. And Harry here is as unlike the original Harry as possible. Rowling's characterizations are one of a kind. She writes characters in BULK and she weaves them together like nobody else does.



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I just read the first three chapters. It's written so smartly, it would have been such a positive page-turner if it were a novel. It's so hugely popular that it almost is. But what you've understand is that the original idea is Rowling's and there wouldn't have been The Methods of Rationality if there weren't any of her books. She did not explain the scientific aspect of magic, true that. And I have always been curious to know that, let's be honest. I'd have liked to know what she thinks about it but I will make do with this exceptionally written fan fiction.
what I meant to say was: idea of dorky kid finding himself to be secret wizard in not an new idea; many variations of it had been done before. but, I agree Methods of rationality Wouldn't exist without the Rowing's harry. I don't like reading fan-fiction, but this is exception to case.

Harry Potter is all about its characters, you see. And Harry here is as unlike the original Harry as possible. Rowling's characterizations are one of a kind. She writes characters in BULK and she weaves them together like nobody else does.
Rational harry and Rowling's harry are very different: agree. However, I've never understood the praise of Rowling's characterization; to me, they are meh! Also, there are plenty of other fantasy books that have better characterization. Perhaps your tastes are very different than me.


I just read the first three chapters. It's written so smartly, it would have been such a positive page-turner if it were a novel. It's so hugely popular that it almost is. But what you've understand is that the original idea is Rowling's and there wouldn't have been The Methods of Rationality if there weren't any of her books. She did not explain the scientific aspect of magic, true that. And I have always been curious to know that, let's be honest. I'd have liked to know what she thinks about it but I will make do with this exceptionally written fan fiction.
yeah, that was my reaction as well. That's how a scientist would react, if magic existed for real. Someone like us would jump with joy if Hogwart was real; only with a scientific mind would would want to figure out the rules, and this is one concept that is explored with depth in this story.
I don't think Rowling had any scientific aspect of magic figured out, though.
watch out for Hermoine pov!

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I have heard a lot about this one. I'll surely give it a try but even I think that NOTHING can be compared to the original HP. Period.
P.S. Sorry but I can't write essays like everyone over here.
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Ok I read the first five chapters. It really is a brilliant piece of work!

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