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Posted: 12 years ago
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This Imran-Najma thing is not getting out of my mind😕 I think we all want it to be someone else but filhaal the pendant is the biggest evidence that the girl is Najma.
I thought maybe Imran is joining hands with Tanveer for getting back at Asad, by hurting Najma but then the pendant waali baat was even before Tanveer was thrown out of the house. So time wise it would not make any sense (well its an Indian show, so actually everything is possible)😛 Don't know why, but I have this strong feeling that Imran is up to something. 😕 Woh jitna acha dekhta hai, utna acha hai nahin...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post Di - sorry for the late reply - but below are my thoughts on today's episode.

IMO in future Asad will always manage to make the impossible possible for Zoya's happiness. It was raining outside so he got the starry night atmosphere indoors. The fact that he actually climbed the seat today himself showed how far he has come and changed for Zoya (it is not easy to over come OCD issues) also the fact that he looked at the moon and then through his eyes indicated for him Zoya is his moon tells me that this couple will not face the normal MU we see in hindi serials coz they can understand each other and have a conversation through their eyes.

Asad has accepted that his heaven is where Zoya is - (however we still see the old Arku at times so it will be fun to see him eat his words even Zoya is at SM😆). Also in Ajmer he had prayed for Zoya to be in engraved in his palm lines if she was not already in his destiny. At that time it had been symbolic just as it is now as in Mangalpur Asad himself has craved Zoya in his palm and thus ensuring that Zoya will always belong to him and will always come back to him in the end.

IMO Rajni did not let Ayaan tie the links cause it felt wrong as she thinks she is married to Vikram - the Humeria inside was not comfortable with it either as she is still hurt and believes Ayaan does not and will never love her - IMO Ayaan has a better chance to woo Rajni than Humeria as Humeria's dreams and trust of love in Ayaan has been shattered - she even gave the engagement ring away in the bus and Ayaan will have a hard time to convince Humeria that he loves her for who she is and not coz of Razia or Rajni's personality.

Additionally we always see parallels in SM and KV but when something good happens in one place something bad happens at the other. The first time ARYA engagement got cancelled as Humeria ended in to hospital ASYA got engaged at the air port - the 2nd time Bari bi's family jewellery was lost by Humeria / Razia (old ayaan had left so cv had to improvise) ASYA had gotten engaged in front of family and today when Ayaan did not put the link in the chain ASYA got engaged for the 3rd time.

Interestingly note the trend of ASYA engagement and nikka attempt
1) 1st engagement was at the airport for the entire world to see but Asad was not ready - the 1st planned nikka was a big bash for all to see but SR happened to Asad instead
2) 2nd engagement was witnessed by Najma,Dilshad and Tannu - the 2nd attempt for Nikka was also Najma, Dilshad and Tannu due to whom the nikka did not happen - she blasted the baby bomb
3)3rd engagement was just ASYA where they both meant it from the bottom of their heart - so IMO the 3rd attempt for Nikka will also just be just ASYA and no one else - and Dilshad will know about it just like she knew about the 3rd engagement.

Interestingly - Asad kissed the ring before he made Zoya wear it so does that mean that they will consummate their marriage before she goes to SM so that the father cannot annul the marriage?

Yes -Asad broke the globe by mistake while trying to look at Zoya's wish list - that in itself was symbolic to me as i have always stated that there has to be a secret message inside the Globe. Ghafoor seems like a man for whom family ties matter and therefore he hand made 2 globes himself for both his daughters - maybe in the hope that one day they find each other - after all isn't his mou bholi sister also living with him as a joint family and is married to the guy with the same middle name as him and now he wants his daughter to also marry in the family. bottom line is that family matter to Ghafoor (in a twisted way it has to do with family ki izzat😕)
Additionally I have also always wondered how appi and jiju found out about Zoya- maybe there was a clue for the orphanage people inside the globe? IMO ASYA or Asad when he tries to fix it will find something engraved inside the globe that will lead them to Ghafoor. In past Zoya has only gotten closer to her father through the clues Asad finds (either through Ayaan or where he drives her or gives to directions too). I have not seen the new promo where Asad promises Zoya that she will meet her dad by eid but to me it seems like he has significant clues in order to promise something so big and within a certain time frame or maybe the promo is misleading😕.
On a bigger scale of things Asad breaking the globe to me symbolizes that through or because of Asad Zoya will actually see who her father is and the illusion she has of a perfect father since childhood will break just the way through Zoya Asad's illusion of perfect Tazaeb girl i.e Tannu his childhood friend broke (as u have also stated often). This also reminds me of the scene where Zoya had thought her dad was dead and had told Asad that she had the piece of mind knowing that her father did not abandon her as a child and Asad had clenched his fist - it makes me wonder how Zoya/ ASYA will deal with the situation when they find out that Ghafoor did indeed abandon his daughter and Rashid never wanted to abandon his son- only after that realization will the CVs IMO bring the track of who was actually burnt in the factory.

And lastly Nikhat was a show stopper for me - i have been waiting for this side of Nikhat to come in front of Hassina bi for a while now. Nikhat always had it in her and we have seen it in the past - When Humeria had forwarded the video to her phone to prove nothing happened between Humeria and Ayaan - Nikhat had been the one to speak up - then after her engagement did not happen she was brave enough to go to Asads office, she also stopped Hassena bi from giving Humeria the kabob - Rashid and Ayaan previously had always kept quiet as Nikhat was happy with Imran. Initially i use to feel Imran did love her too but lately we saw changes in him like asking nikhat not to dance and a drastic change was when he and Nikhat were out for the entire night out. IMO these changes have come since Tannu re-entered his life again and started demanding money - i think he loves Nikhat but is sandwiched between Hassina bi and Tannu. IMO Imran has nothing to do with Najma -
In the long term Imran and Nikhat will end up together then Tannu baby bomb will blast.

However the after effects of Nikhat speaking up is going to impact Rajni as well imo - Hassina bi has already poisoned Shireens mind against Rajni - but Razia and Ayaan do know that Rajni is actually Humeria so it will be interesting to see the fireworks😆

PS: I love it when things do not go as per Razia's plan 😆did u see her shocked face when Nikhat spoke up?

PPS:I am going to look forward to more scenes where both Dilshad and Zoya show Asad the eye😆like todayin the dinning table scene.

PPPS: Do u think as a compensation for breaking the globe (memento from her father) Asad is going to return the memento he has of her mother i.e her earning back?More mitwa moments for us
(if this happens it will be a foreshadow that Asad will reveal Ghafoor's actual ruthless side to Zoya and reconnect her to her mom - esp if my Razia theory holds true😉)
Edited by CanadianChik - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ webuser 7: Aargh!! After almost finishing a long response, I fat fingered it and lost everything!! 😭 😭 Sorry! Too tired and sleepy to type it again. I am so mad! 😡 If I didn't love my IPad so much, it would be broken today! 😆 Great post! 😭 😭 I am going to cry myself to sleep...

I know what u mean...it's happend to me before on the ipad...thanks for the effort :) and yeah, don't lose sleep over this lolz
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: farha15

Asad and Zoya moon scenes were really beautiful .Asad breaking the music box as you said Di in your symbolism i want Asad to show Zoya that for which father she is craving for is not at all worthy.cvs 😡 dont play with najmas character by connecting her with jerk like imran. is imran that good looking and has a great personality that all girls are dying for him.i would hate it if imran -najma-nikhat happens .i dont want baiseena bi ever to come to Asads house.one thing is for sure najma is for a huge heart break.Sangeetha di nice analysis and Happy friendship day😊.



Happy friendship day to you too Farha. Someone has suggested that Haseena and Imraan are con artists and extract dowry from prospective rich families who have daughters with low self esteem. If that's true, makes sense why he selected Nikhat and Najma
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: CanadianChik


Hey Di,

Sorry for the late reply - not feeling too well.

Thank you for mentioning me 😳.

Who knew back in May when i had predicted on Rupunzale post that there will be a 3rd engagement it would actually come true 😲


PS: shall be back with comments on the episode - i have a lot to say



sorry to hear you are not feeling well. Take care Sara

But, I can see the rule of 3s playing everywhere now😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: me2you


This Imran-Najma thing is not getting out of my mind😕 I think we all want it to be someone else but filhaal the pendant is the biggest evidence that the girl is Najma.
I thought maybe Imran is joining hands with Tanveer for getting back at Asad, by hurting Najma but then the pendant waali baat was even before Tanveer was thrown out of the house. So time wise it would not make any sense (well its an Indian show, so actually everything is possible)😛 Don't know why, but I have this strong feeling that Imran is up to something. 😕 Woh jitna acha dekhta hai, utna acha hai nahin...


Imran has never been a good man in my eyes

A new theory doing rounds is that haseena and Imran trap rich families with girls who have low esteem to extract dowry. Would make sense with Nikhat and Najma. remember haseena came by to Asad's house a while back and was admiring how rich he is...if that's true, Asad knows her real face and will pulverize her to pulp
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: CanadianChik

Great post Di - sorry for the late reply - but below are my thoughts on today's episode.

Hope u r feeling better

IMO in future Asad will always manage to make the impossible possible for Zoya's happiness. It was raining outside so he got the starry night atmosphere indoors. The fact that he actually climbed the seat today himself showed how far he has come and changed for Zoya (it is not easy to over come OCD issues) also the fact that he looked at the moon and then through his eyes indicated for him Zoya is his moon tells me that this couple will not face the normal MU we see in hindi serials coz they can understand each other and have a conversation through their eyes.

i agree...Asya bond is too strong and they have evolved into a relationship with a lot of trust and understanding. Circumstances can separate them, not MU

Asad has accepted that his heaven is where Zoya is - (however we still see the old Arku at times so it will be fun to see him eat his words even Zoya is at SM😆). Also in Ajmer he had prayed for Zoya to be in engraved in his palm lines if she was not already in his destiny. At that time it had been symbolic just as it is now as in Mangalpur Asad himself has craved Zoya in his palm and thus ensuring that Zoya will always belong to him and will always come back to him in the end.

absolutely! Talking about OCD- even though he climbed the stool, he took his shoes off lol. That was so cute

IMO Rajni did not let Ayaan tie the links cause it felt wrong as she thinks she is married to Vikram - the Humeria inside was not comfortable with it either as she is still hurt and believes Ayaan does not and will never love her - IMO Ayaan has a better chance to woo Rajni than Humeria as Humeria's dreams and trust of love in Ayaan has been shattered - she even gave the engagement ring away in the bus and Ayaan will have a hard time to convince Humeria that he loves her for who she is and not coz of Razia or Rajni's personality.

It's going to be tricky because Rajni thinks she is married. Just like Ghafoor's illusion will break one day, Vikram's illusion will break for Rajni one day. That means Vikram is here to stay

Additionally we always see parallels in SM and KV but when something good happens in one place something bad happens at the other. The first time ARYA engagement got cancelled as Humeria ended in to hospital ASYA got engaged at the air port - the 2nd time Bari bi's family jewellery was lost by Humeria / Razia (old ayaan had left so cv had to improvise) ASYA had gotten engaged in front of family and today when Ayaan did not put the link in the chain ASYA got engaged for the 3rd time.

Interestingly note the trend of ASYA engagement and nikka attempt
1) 1st engagement was at the airport for the entire world to see but Asad was not ready - the 1st planned nikka was a big bash for all to see but SR happened to Asad instead
2) 2nd engagement was witnessed by Najma,Dilshad and Tannu - the 2nd attempt for Nikka was also Najma, Dilshad and Tannu due to whom the nikka did not happen - she blasted the baby bomb
3)3rd engagement was just ASYA where they both meant it from the bottom of their heart - so IMO the 3rd attempt for Nikka will also just be just ASYA and no one else - and Dilshad will know about it just like she knew about the 3rd engagement.

I would love for them to have a secret nikaah but don't they need witnesses for the nikaah to be valid? So, Dilshaad and Najma need to be there- unless they go to court and have a civil union

Interestingly - Asad kissed the ring before he made Zoya wear it so does that mean that they will consummate their marriage before she goes to SM so that the father cannot annul the marriage?

hmm...now that part I am not sure. Gul ain't going to give this to us yet...she will save the best for last lolz

Yes -Asad broke the globe by mistake while trying to look at Zoya's wish list - that in itself was symbolic to me as i have always stated that there has to be a secret message inside the Globe. Ghafoor seems like a man for whom family ties matter and therefore he hand made 2 globes himself for both his daughters - maybe in the hope that one day they find each other - after all isn't his mou bholi sister also living with him as a joint family and is married to the guy with the same middle name as him and now he wants his daughter to also marry in the family. bottom line is that family matter to Ghafoor (in a twisted way it has to do with family ki izzat😕)

Great point- maybe there is a clue in the globe. That's going to make it interesting


Additionally I have also always wondered how appi and jiju found out about Zoya- maybe there was a clue for the orphanage people inside the globe? IMO ASYA or Asad when he tries to fix it will find something engraved inside the globe that will lead them to Ghafoor. In past Zoya has only gotten closer to her father through the clues Asad finds (either through Ayaan or where he drives her or gives to directions too). I have not seen the new promo where Asad promises Zoya that she will meet her dad by eid but to me it seems like he has significant clues in order to promise something so big and within a certain time frame or maybe the promo is misleading😕.

yeah, asad will def help her find her abbu but as in the past, Ayaan was a crucial part of this search. Let's see if Eid will really bring Ghafoor truth out or not? I have a feeling Eid will be the big Imran-Nikhat-Najma reveal and not Ghafoor yet...let's see


On a bigger scale of things Asad breaking the globe to me symbolizes that through or because of Asad Zoya will actually see who her father is and the illusion she has of a perfect father since childhood will break just the way through Zoya Asad's illusion of perfect Tazaeb girl i.e Tannu his childhood friend broke (as u have also stated often). This also reminds me of the scene where Zoya had thought her dad was dead and had told Asad that she had the piece of mind knowing that her father did not abandon her as a child and Asad had clenched his fist - it makes me wonder how Zoya/ ASYA will deal with the situation when they find out that Ghafoor did indeed abandon his daughter and Rashid never wanted to abandon his son- only after that realization will the CVs IMO bring the track of who was actually burnt in the factory.

absolutely! The mirror image theory here...

And lastly Nikhat was a show stopper for me - i have been waiting for this side of Nikhat to come in front of Hassina bi for a while now. Nikhat always had it in her and we have seen it in the past - When Humeria had forwarded the video to her phone to prove nothing happened between Humeria and Ayaan - Nikhat had been the one to speak up - then after her engagement did not happen she was brave enough to go to Asads office, she also stopped Hassena bi from giving Humeria the kabob - Rashid and Ayaan previously had always kept quiet as Nikhat was happy with Imran. Initially i use to feel Imran did love her too but lately we saw changes in him like asking nikhat not to dance and a drastic change was when he and Nikhat were out for the entire night out. IMO these changes have come since Tannu re-entered his life again and started demanding money - i think he loves Nikhat but is sandwiched between Hassina bi and Tannu. IMO Imran has nothing to do with Najma -
In the long term Imran and Nikhat will end up together then Tannu baby bomb will blast.

looks like it's actually Imran-najma. I am liking a new theory going around- Imraan and Haseena as con artists who extract dowry from rich families with daughters who have low self esteem...

However the after effects of Nikhat speaking up is going to impact Rajni as well imo - Hassina bi has already poisoned Shireens mind against Rajni - but Razia and Ayaan do know that Rajni is actually Humeria so it will be interesting to see the fireworks😆

PS: I love it when things do not go as per Razia's plan 😆did u see her shocked face when Nikhat spoke up?

yes, loved it but today she will create a big scene for sure

PPS:I am going to look forward to more scenes where both Dilshad and Zoya show Asad the eye😆like todayin the dinning table scene.

yeah, that 'wajan' comment was so cute

PPPS: Do u think as a compensation for breaking the globe (memento from her father) Asad is going to return the memento he has of her mother i.e her earning back?More mitwa moments for us

I want him to return it to her on their SR :)


(if this happens it will be a foreshadow that Asad will reveal Ghafoor's actual ruthless side to Zoya and reconnect her to her mom - esp if my Razia theory holds true😉)

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi

@ webuser 7: Aargh!! After almost finishing a long response, I fat fingered it and lost everything!! Sorry! Too tired and sleepy to type it again. I am so mad! If I didn't love my IPad so much, it would be broken today! Great post! I am going to cry myself to sleep...


I know what u mean...it's happend to me before on the ipad...thanks for the effort :) and yeah, don't lose sleep over this lolz


Let me try again, perhaps an abridged version.

Wonderful post with a yet again a meaningful title!! I am guessing the title is inspired by the American soap opera?! Didn't watch it but can guess it was filled with multiple broken engagements and marriages, wife swapping, 2 bros loving 1 girl, 2 sis loving 1 guy, ya da ya da!!

It was a wonderful episode. The AsYa moon sequence was indeed ethereal and surreal!! So after umpteen "Neeche uttariyes" to Zoya, Mr. Khan finally broke his rule and climbed an ottoman!! Albeit, the OCD kicked in and he took off his shoes first!! Loved the whole ring scene, 3rd time engagement: first very publicly, second only in front of his family and third just the 2 of them under the beautiful sky. The 3rd being the final and strongest one. He kinda fulfilled wish # 3 again!! Wonder, if their Nikaah attempts will be similar: first publicly (failed), second family only (failed) and 3rd a secret Nikaah (final and unbreakable)! I loved when Zoya said she's the luckiest girl as she has stars and the moon and above all her Mr. Khan, her very own Salman Khan! Asad looked a bit startled when she said the "above all" piece and then coy at the "Salman Khan" piece. How adorable!! Beautiful performance by both Karan and Surbhi. I didn't understand the last bit though. Asad does an eye gesture towards the moon and Zoya looks at it and then back at him. What did that mean? Did they edit a part out. Felt incomplete to me.

I love your symbolism of Asad breaking the music globe. Gaffur doesn't deserve a pure soul like Zoya pining for him. Spineless hypocrite!

Mr. Chor Ahmad Khan is really becoming zoru ka ghulam. Can I get him for one day?! How out of character for Mr. Tehzeeb to snoop in Zoya's closet for her last wish. He looked so guilty when caught red handed. Perhaps we should discuss it after today's episode!!


I have said this before: really can't take BB torture any more. Just to save her, I would like Zoya to move to the SM and then run back to her lion's den!

Nikhat (and Archana) finally rocked! This show has awesome actors.

Most unpleasant part for the last: IMMI? Really??!! Hope that is sort for Imtiaz or as CC is guessing an acronym. It would be horrible if it was short for Immoral, um I mean Imraan. So, CVs are swapping 2 bros fighting over 1 girl to 2 sis and 1 billi fighting over 1 guy. A three timer?! Really? What does this Mama's boy have to offer? Yuck!! The whole timing thing is off. Apparently, Nikhat has been engaged for 2 months, the N pendant is older (how old?!) and Tanveer was 12 weeks (3 months) pregnant. So ignoring the last week or two of Ramadan episodes, and going back to the timeline when Zoya gets Tanveer's reports, 12 weeks - 14 days (as Docs in US calculate) = 10 weeks. So 2 weeks before getting engaged to Nikhat, Imraan slept with Tanveer?! And then says he has met her after a while! Where does Najma fit in? Before Tanveer?! Based on the age of the pendant, that's what it seems like!

If not for the spoilers, I would think Immi and pendant "N" are red herring just like the Billo maid. Speaking of maid, why doesn't the Khan Villa have any maids or naukars?!

I am so looking forward to the gazillion bear hugs on EID!





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Posted: 12 years ago
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Let me try again, perhaps an abridged version.

Thanks RK..

Wonderful post with a yet again a meaningful title!! I am guessing the title is inspired by the American soap opera?! Didn't watch it but can guess it was filled with multiple broken engagements and marriages, wife swapping, 2 bros loving 1 girl, 2 sis loving 1 guy, ya da ya da!!

yes...exactly! I never saw that soap either 😆

It was a wonderful episode. The AsYa moon sequence was indeed ethereal and surreal!! So after umpteen "Neeche uttariyes" to Zoya, Mr. Khan finally broke his rule and climbed an ottoman!! Albeit, the OCD kicked in and he took off his shoes first!!

yes, I loved that part too...OCD is better but not gone😳 and that's more natural

Loved the whole ring scene, 3rd time engagement: first very publicly, second only in front of his family and third just the 2 of them under the beautiful sky. The 3rd being the final and strongest one. He kinda fulfilled wish # 3 again!! Wonder, if their Nikaah attempts will be similar: first publicly (failed), second family only (failed) and 3rd a secret Nikaah (final and unbreakable)! I loved when Zoya said she's the luckiest girl as she has stars and the moon and above all her Mr. Khan, her very own Salman Khan! Asad looked a bit startled when she said the "above all" piece and then coy at the "Salman Khan" piece. How adorable!! Beautiful performance by both Karan and Surbhi. I didn't understand the last bit though. Asad does an eye gesture towards the moon and Zoya looks at it and then back at him. What did that mean? Did they edit a part out. Felt incomplete to me.

even I think they edited the scene because SJ was wearing his jacket in a BTS scene...they probably spent some lovey dovey moments under the chaand and she must have gotten cold. They are trying to keep their romance at PG-3 level😆 I just loved KSG's expressions yesterday. How can any girl resist that look


I love your symbolism of Asad breaking the music globe. Gaffur doesn't deserve a pure soul like Zoya pining for him. Spineless hypocrite!

Mr. Chor Ahmad Khan is really becoming zoru ka ghulam. Can I get him for one day?! How out of character for Mr. Tehzeeb to snoop in Zoya's closet for her last wish. He looked so guilty when caught red handed. Perhaps we should discuss it after today's episode!!

yes, i find that cute and funny...he goes around snooping in her closet at the drop of a hat and then complaints when she doesn't knock😆


I have said this before: really can't take BB torture any more. Just to save her, I would like Zoya to move to the SM and then run back to her lion's den!

I feel bad for VS...poor thing

Nikhat (and Archana) finally rocked! This show has awesome actors.

yes, I want other actors from the show get more recognition. I know Kabhie are the face of QH but the PH needs to acknowledge others also

Most unpleasant part for the last: IMMI? Really??!! Hope that is sort for Imtiaz or as CC is guessing an acronym. It would be horrible if it was short for Immoral, um I mean Imraan. So, CVs are swapping 2 bros fighting over 1 girl to 2 sis and 1 billi fighting over 1 guy. A three timer?! Really? What does this Mama's boy have to offer? Yuck!! The whole timing thing is off. Apparently, Nikhat has been engaged for 2 months, the N pendant is older (how old?!) and Tanveer was 12 weeks (3 months) pregnant. So ignoring the last week or two of Ramadan episodes, and going back to the timeline when Zoya gets Tanveer's reports, 12 weeks - 14 days (as Docs in US calculate) = 10 weeks. So 2 weeks before getting engaged to Nikhat, Imraan slept with Tanveer?! And then says he has met her after a while! Where does Najma fit in? Before Tanveer?! Based on the age of the pendant, that's what it seems like!

someone has suggested that Imraan-haseena trap rich families for dowry esp if their daughters have low self esteem...I am liking that theory more and more.Nikhat and Najma would fit the bill

If not for the spoilers, I would think Immi and pendant "N" are red herring just like the Billo maid. Speaking of maid, why doesn't the Khan Villa have any maids or naukars?!

I am so looking forward to the gazillion bear hugs on EID!

well, Zee spolier says Imraan Even i was hoping for another man but oh well...Gulwants to send another social message to women. BEWARE!




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