Crisp Bytes SC - 2nd Aug 13 - Page 5

Originally posted by: smrth

Kudos IVY ji👏...first time here I am seeing a closer analysis of her true internal fight that is blazed in the work (has been trying to share it hoarse for couple of weeks). Lines- indeed; real, sharp and cutting. It's cutting edges of her 'conscience' that has been cruelly, forcefully set on/against her own integrity that's bleeding her. Not Pramad's violence that Saras is so intent to stop at the moment. Remember, Saras is not wrong. The physical degradation is first step to a repair. It must stop. But real wound? How would he, or for that matter even Kumud herself, ever going to bridge the 'chasm'? As per book, it never was. But thanks, first time I am seeing here an analysis closer to the work. Otherwise most of the time, looking through our 'right', urbane, politically correct views- how she is 'incomprehensible', inconsistent, lost and not her 'real self' etc. Ironically, those 'observations' are right! But not the diagnosis!

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Smrth Bhai... It is the execution that is playing spoilsport here. We let ourselves be carried astray by little irks... Thus all we all can make are "observations"... The past two epi's are testament to that. Filler episodes, where there shouldn't be any because it just disrupts momentum. Maybe I'm being too uncompromising but I would have preferred to wait for Saras and Kumud scenes whole of last week, until J got back so that the true affect, the actual internal struggle could be highlighted. Hoping that this week more than makes up for it. The last two epi's Kumud actually came off as "inconsistent" to me... Jennifer's execution seemed a little off... And this depiction bears on the overall pyschological identikit of Kumudsundari's that we're striving to make. It does disservice to it.

@Bold Intriguing. But here Kumud will have to bridge chasm right? Indications point to it, and book vision needs to be adapted to suit palate of medium's audiences. Otherwise how would it look in the long term... Kumudsundari "incomprehensible, inconsistent and lost"... Audiences will dis-identify, will even lose empathy... No desire to define diagnosis. Observations only will suffice

Originally posted by: arshicritic

True smrth, it is for the first time I am seeing the true nature of Kumud's wound. And must thank Ivy for the clarity with which she has brought it out. You both have that third eye that looks and divines thinks that are subtle and understated, and are often missed out.

An Aha post from you ivy, loved it and glad you fully recovered and back!

Originally posted by: happychappy

As usual, I read ivy's post, and thought I got a glimmer of light, then read Smrth's response, and feel that I didnt actually get the point at all...😊 So for the less enlightened, please clarify...

Does the fact that the line is blurred make it easier or more difficult for Kumud to leave?

I would imagine that if the line was well-defined and strengthened by being married to a different man, say the logical opposite of Pramad, it would be easier for Kumud to stay (within the line).

Now the non-existence or blurring of the line leaves her in a no-man's land of belonging nowhere and to none... But in the longer run, given that Kumud herself is not exactly un-urbane, would it not make it easier for her to leave (cross the line)

Why is the chasm between her conscience and her identity so unbridgeable? In the present day? Obviously, the chasm is a deep, rich lode of angst, but still?

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Bold One: That is a trick question, my friend 😉 The way I see it, it doesn't matter if blurred or not, easy or difficult is not even going to come into the picture because, as long as there is a line, any line, that K can see or imagine, and God forbid, find that she can hold on to, she will stay. Of course, let's see how smrth Bhai reads this =)

Bold Two: Really, would it? Perhaps. But for how long? Imagine all constants the same, only nature of Pramad changed, but still with Saras in the picture, could K stay truly "within lines" in the most absolute essence of the word?

Bold Three: Million-dollar question, buddy. And so eloquently put by you 👏 Here we are trying to re-concile source and show. In the source that chasm was never bridged. But in show, core characteristics of Kumud have been altered. The chasm may not be so "unbridgeable", after all... Her conscience and her identity have gotten utterly enmeshed by this point. And paradoxically, this has created a gulf. On one hand, Kumud is torn apart within herself (gulf)... On the other, her identities of "Mrs. Dharmadhikari" and "Kumudsundari Desai" have become irrevocably entwined. With Saras there, these identities (both of whom she cannot let go) have provided fuel to the raging fire of her conscience. They are mutually in service of one another, and also working against the other. It is a catch-22 of a right, royal order! As you ask, "but still"... However, at this point of time in show, that's easier asked than answered 😕

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Bold One: That is a trick question, my friend 😉 The way I see it, it doesn't matter if blurred or not, easy or difficult is not even going to come into the picture because, as long as there is a line, any line, that K can see or imagine, and God forbid, find that she can hold on to, she will stay. Of course, let's see how smrth Bhai reads this =)

Bold Two: Really, would it? Perhaps. But for how long? Imagine all constants the same, only nature of Pramad changed, but still with Saras in the picture, could K stay truly "within lines" in the most absolute essence of the word?

Bold Three: Million-dollar question, buddy. And so eloquently put by you 👏 Here we are trying to re-concile source and show. In the source that chasm was never bridged. But in show, core characteristics of Kumud have been altered. The chasm may not be so "unbridgeable", after all... Her conscience and her identity have gotten utterly enmeshed by this point. And paradoxically, this has created a gulf. On one hand, Kumud is torn apart within herself (gulf)... On the other, her identities of "Mrs. Dharmadhikari" and "Kumudsundari Desai" have become irrevocably entwined. With Saras there, these identities (both of whom she cannot let go) have provided fuel to the raging fire of her conscience. They are mutually in service of one another, and also working against the other. It is a catch-22 of a right, royal order! As you ask, "but still"... However, at this point of time in show, that's easier asked than answered