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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: preeti25nair

oyster i want to share my personal experiences . since i m a south indian , we here give lots gold to the bride . i started growing up in the society of dowry at every stage of life as chan chan said ek baar diya to har baar , i personally dont like this give and take , so i was always nervous as how i m going to face this system of marriage , u know in south the grooms family proudly asks for dowry stating various reason as ur gril is not beautiful or black skin tone , or the groom is a engineer or doctor , the reasons goes on and on , thank god mine was a love marriage , and i n my husband never asked for any money or gold , but that was not the case with my younger sister my dad took a loan for fulling their demands ,i voiced against it but it all went to deaf ears , after 3 yrs still now it has not stoped , they ask indierctly like after marriage first diwali , first delivery expenses and on .

i think the society will not change until we try to stand up for urselfs .


Thank you for sharing your personal experience Preeti. I was really more interested in personal experiences than what we hear on the news.

It's extremely sad to know that there still exist people who evaluate the girl in such cruel manner. Dammit, if you have any problem with the girls looks, her education, her background, then don't ask for her hand!!! No one can force anyone to have their son married to a certain girl. So their problem is not with the girl per se, it seems to be their tactic of how to usurp wealth from the girl's family.. I don't understand how could such shameless people exist. How could the girl live with so much pain in the house that has caused so much trouble to her parents? I cannot imagine what your younger sister goes through.. Imagine how would a person feel to share her emotions, her feelings, her values, HERSELF with a person who perceives her as a means of income?

Oh yes standing up and resisting is the key to any change. The problem though is that you can't stand up for someone else... like your case in your sister's marriage.. I mean you could refuse to marry if you were the bride but you could only advise your sister. One of my friends had an experience of kind of forced marriage and she swore that she'll never let this happen to her children. I find that very helpful as well.. so for instance you could make sure that this dowry thing never happens when your children marry too. That will be a good start... I know it's not like changing a whole society but you can set an example at least..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very nice post. Dowry still exists in India and many people give dowry or take dowry in the name of gift. Though I belong to Gujarati community, in our cast there is no system dowry, We don't ask for dowry nor we give dowry. The parents gives whatever is affordable to them to their daughter out of love and groom side also don't ask anything. They accept whatever is given to the bride by their parents and if girl's parents are poor, they even accept girl without anything and even we share the expenses of the marriage. Its not only on girl's side. My sister's in-law didn't ask anything apart from my sister. So as far as my cast is concern we don't have the system of dowry at all. But I have heard about dowry in many other casts such as Marwadi. One of our marwadi neighbor had given so much dowry for their daughter's marriage and when I told them why to give dowry they said if we are giving now for our daughter than we will also receive dowry for our son. I was so shocked at their thought process!!!! I don't intend to offend Marwadi people here. Its just my experience I am sharing.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ipkkndlove

Very nice post. Dowry still exists in India and many people give dowry or take dowry in the name of gift. Though I belong to Gujarati community, in our cast there is no system dowry, We don't ask for dowry nor we give dowry. The parents gives whatever is affordable to them to their daughter out of love and groom side also don't ask anything. They accept whatever is given to the bride by their parents and if girl's parents are poor, they even accept girl without anything and even we share the expenses of the marriage. Its not only on girl's side. My sister's in-law didn't ask anything apart from my sister. So as far as my cast is concern we don't have the system of dowry at all. But I have heard about dowry in many other casts such as Marwadi. One of our marwadi neighbor had given so much dowry for their daughter's marriage and when I told them why to give dowry they said if we are giving now for our daughter than we will also receive dowry for our son. I was so shocked at their thought process!!!! I don't intend to offend Marwadi people here. Its just my experience I am sharing.

I dont now enough about any community in India to comment on them but my understanding is that the dowry system is prevalent in every cast and class. Whilst some parents give their daughters 'gifts' I wonder how many of them would do as much as they do if they didn't feel the need to do so because of societal pressures...so doesn't that in a way too become dowry. I thought that was a very interesting point raised in the show yesterday that dowry is dowry whether it is given as a gift or the word dowry is there. If the expectation of receiving something is there or giving gifts because it is an expectation of society then surely at some level it is dowry. Some people don't need to ask because they know they will receive. Actually this reminds me of an aunt whose inlaws came the night before (presumably to talk about dowry) and on seeing the courtyard filled with brand new household items all ready to be delivered they walked away. To this day i wonder what they would have done had they not seen all this...would they really have asked for a dowry the night before the wedding and what if my family had not been able ot fulfill their wishes at that point. I guess these people were still decent in that they didn't wait to make their demands just before the wedding.😕
I would love to hear the experience of someone who didn't go into a joint family...did your parents still feel the need to make gifts to your in laws home and was there still an expectation from in laws that they should receive something even though the girl was not going to beliving with them.
@TM wonderful topic that like the shoe really makes people think.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oyster


Thank you for sharing your personal experience Preeti. I was really more interested in personal experiences than what we hear on the news.

It's extremely sad to know that there still exist people who evaluate the girl in such cruel manner. Dammit, if you have any problem with the girls looks, her education, her background, then don't ask for her hand!!! No one can force anyone to have their son married to a certain girl. So their problem is not with the girl per se, it seems to be their tactic of how to usurp wealth from the girl's family.. I don't understand how could such shameless people exist. How could the girl live with so much pain in the house that has caused so much trouble to her parents? I cannot imagine what your younger sister goes through.. Imagine how would a person feel to share her emotions, her feelings, her values, HERSELF with a person who perceives her as a means of income?

Oh yes standing up and resisting is the key to any change. The problem though is that you can't stand up for someone else... like your case in your sister's marriage.. I mean you could refuse to marry if you were the bride but you could only advise your sister. One of my friends had an experience of kind of forced marriage and she swore that she'll never let this happen to her children. I find that very helpful as well.. so for instance you could make sure that this dowry thing never happens when your children marry too. That will be a good start... I know it's not like changing a whole society but you can set an example at least..

oyster @ bold this is what i feel , we cannot change the society but every gril can take decision at her level that this dowry system will not happen to their childern , like ur friend said , i also pledge that i will never ever ask for dowry for my son or daughter .

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