19/2 Dragon Club: Pride Before Fall

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I don't have much time to write a take today, but I thought I would offer some words on a possibility that has been brewing in my head for SP's characterisation. I know he seems like the villain right now, and I wouldn't dream of denying that after what he did with the DNA test, but just judging by his past behaviour, as we have seen it over the course of the show, I really wonder if Radha wasn't someone special to him...

When we first met SP, he was a cold, calculative and cunning man. He realised the possible social capital involved in being "progressive" and bringing a widow into the house as his daughter in law. He wanted just a few things from this woman, for her to be eternally grateful to the family for having accepted her, for her to be completely docile and obedient and for her to seduce his grieving, vulnerable son into physical intercourse so she could provide him with a legal heir. And he held the same attitude towards most of the women in his life, especially Gayatri, whose self esteem he steamrollered, and his own sister, for whom he even refused to consider a future other than the lonely life she leads now.

Aarti's reaction to Ansh being kidnapped caught SP entirely off guard. He had not been expecting a woman who was willing to fight the circumstances for justice... and what is more, he was startled by the seeming power she had over his son, to make him rebel against his father. Much like he is now, he couldn't see past the end of his own ego, see that his son was going against him because he was wrong, not because of anything Aarti did. Even when he gave her that 3 month condition, he was doing it for the sake of his family image, not for Yash's happiness.

Somewhere along the way though, Aarti changed him. She showed him that she was string-willed yes, but dedicated every fiber of that will to the family, she was independent, but that made her capable of dealing with Yash and Palak's grief in a way that nobody had been able to yet, she had a mind of her own, but the one concern was always how to make the family more comfortable. With a woman like Aarti around, SP became a better version of himself. She never preached to him about respect for women or how regressive he was but made him respect all woman by being a strong representative and pushing him into a corner where he didn't have a choice but to respect her. SP was so close to and so proud of Aarti... her gender or status as his bahu not withstanding. She was the shining star of the Scindias, someone whose word could make him support Paridhi's trial, treat his wife with affection and regard or speak up against his sister's caustic words.

And then he learned the truth. The DIL that he fought for, whom he assured everyone had his full trust, shattered it by revealing the lie she had been telling all along. Not only had she lied, she had also tricked him somehow, got the better of him by being something he didn't want and winning a degree of trust that he had given nobody, as far as we saw in the show. The way he lashed out at this double attack on his heart and his ego was frightening. Not only did he alienate Yash and Aarti from the rest of the family, he was cruel to the kids, refusing to pick Ansh up from school when he had a sprained ankle, and supported Prashant, someone who clearly had nefarious intentions in the custody battle. We wondered at his complete turn around and now I am left wondering again.

It is uncanny to see the similarities between Radha and Aarti. Both of them were strong young women coming from meager means who were determined to make their mark in the world. Is it possible that SP was once changed, or to put it more subtly, that his kinder, humbler, more respectful side came out when he met a woman who could earn his respect? And what would rejection from such a woman do to SP? I imagine he would react in the same way he did when Aarti's truth came out... retreat into his hard shell of status-conscious pride, because, what else does he have to cling to? He refuses to acknowledge emotional dependence on another person and had nobody to talk to about his feelings, if he has to maintain this godly status he wants to above all his family members. I know that what he did was despicable and I am not trying to argue against that, but is it possible, seeing his character from a slightly different angle, that it was his heart break and his inability to share it with anyone that turned him so hard and bitter? Perhaps he clings to money and status because if he didn't have it, everyone could see what a broken, incomplete man he is.

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Edited by Samanalyse - 13 years ago
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IN GENERAL, PRIDE IS
AT THE BOTTOM OF GREAT MISTAKES

Suraj Pratap Scindia is very proud of his social status, he doesn't want anyone nor anything to jeopardize his image in the society.That's is why when he found out about Aarti being a divorcee and that she lied about it, he give her and Yash a sever punishment...And when Radha came and publicly claimed that he was Aakash's father he pulled a gun on her.


Yet years ago he made a blunder when he got involve with another woman named Radha and they created a child despite him being married and a father of one. Not wanting anyone to know that he went astray when SP came to know about the pregnancy, he asked Radha to abort the child.



Wanting her son to get his rights, Radha made a big mistake by changing the babies when she came to know that G3 had giving birth to her second child, Aakash.


Now 30 years later there's a feud going on about who is lying and who is telling the truth...Both Radha and SP made a huge mistake and now their children will be paying the price
LIVE SO THAT WHEN YOUR CHILDREN THINK ABOUT FAIRNESS,
CARING AND INTEGRITY, THEY THINK OF YOU

This is how Yash and Aarti Yash Scindia live their lives...Those two beautiful souls always do their best to be fair to everyone even their worse enemy & they have installed those values in their children as well.


But right now Yash doesn't want to think of the possibility that Radha could be telling the truth about SP being unfaithful...He and Aarti had a little "What if" talk and the former has blind faith in his father that it was pointless to try and reason with him.

What will Yash do when he comes to know the whole truth, will he be able to be fair to Radha and try to understand why she did what she did (changed him and Aakash at birth)?
How will his relationship with SP be affected? Given is blind faith in his father...Yash will be heartbroken.

Aarti is now preview to this new information (Yash being SP's illegitimate son), that piece of knowledge could turn their family's lives upside down. Aarti wants to do everything in her power to make things right even if it means going against her loved ones.

SOMETIMES DOING THE RIGHT THING
DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEANS YOU'LL BE HAPPY


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A great episode 👏 👏 👏


It starts with the Scindia parivaar doing Lord Shiva's puja, SP is holding the flame meanwhile in the tent Radha and her family are doing the puja as well...Aarti looks at a tensed Yash, SP passes the flame to Yash. AarYa are doing the puja together, Yash is still tensed, they show Aakash doing the puja as well smiling...the Puja is over...Wow Yash was very intense while doing the puja, poor guy he knows that one shouldn't be angry when praying to God but I understand why he was

Yahs, Pratik & Pankaj are drinking bhang, they turn on the radio...Aakash and family hear the noise and goes out to see the three Scindia bros singing and dancing while SP, G3, Vidhi, Parin, Maya, Ansh and Palak are happily enjoying themselves as well...Aarti on the other hand is not that please, she is sad and tensed watching them dance....Awww poor Aarti couldn't enjoy the festivities because of the bitter truth

Yash dances around Aarti, he and his brothers continue to dance while Radha and her family watches on...Yash goes close to Aarti and this time puts his arms around her shoulder, she gets a little flustered. Pari comes and pulls Yash away and they all dance...Well the Scindia's bros having so much fun is the calm before the storm, Radha and Aarti looking at each other was like two best friends on the opposite sides because their families don't want them talking to one another ...Yash sure was trying romancing Aarti in the open 😳

Pankaj and Pratik taunt Aakash with their dance, the latter goes inside the tent with Ishita following him, she puts her hand on his shoulder but he pushes it away...she puts her hand on his shoulder again and as he was about to push it away she gestures her head no and he leaves her hand there just then Radha comes and gestures him to calm down...Well Ishita is standing by her man, he even liked her support...the way he looked at her the second time hen she put her hand on his shoulder tells me that when the truth comes out he will turn to her for emotional support and she may take advantage of his vulnerability 🤔 but it was great to see that he let her be there for him 😃

Ishita's father comes with the media and the report while the Scindias are celebrating, SP puts tilak on his sons' forehead...Yash and his brothers take SP's blessings, MLA tells the media that today SP real face will be known and that he will get justice for his daughter...he goes on to say that she isn't married t a mere driver but the son of SP...as Radha is about to put tilak forehead MLA tells her to way that he will do the honors to put on his SIL's, they all go outside...the Scindias avance while Radha, her family and the media advance as well...Seriously why did the media had to be involve, I know that Aakash brought them the day when he came to make his claim but why bring them again with the result IMO they should have waited until they were 100% sure that the test was positive...I know that the test was tampered with but still having the media there just was embarrassing 👎🏼

The MLA continues to say that that his daughter is the Scindias' bahu, Yahs tells him that SP can't be wrong...Ishita's father asks SP why does he want to humiliate himself by opening the envelop, Yash says that the truth will prevail and asks MLA to open the report...Everyone is tensed awaiting the results, MLA once again is talking he tells Aakash that they will win and that Yahs has too much faith in SP, Aarti prays for God to give Yash strength while hearing the truth...MLA pulls out the results and it's negative...Wow Ishita's father could talk a lot, he must be really bad at poker all that talking, he should take a cue from SP and have a poker face...SP was cool as a cucumber while Yash and MLA had their little war of words 🤢 😛 😆

Yash asks MLA what's matter, he tells him that the media is waiting so tell them what does the report say...the media as well is questioning him, MLA tells them that the report is negative...Pankaj is extremely happy while Aarti wonders what the heck happened...MLA go on to say the Aakash isn't SP's son Radha in self thought says that SP changed the test...SP tells the media that the report spoke the truth, Aarti looks at SP with a shocked look on her face while Aakash looks at Radha as well as Ishita...SP gives her an uncomfortable look as well...Poor Aakash, once again someone is playing God with his life and this time it's his own father who is denying him

MLA is blasting Radha & Aakash for dragging SP's name in the dirt for the sake of money, he wants to take Ishita with him but the latter refuses saying that Aakash is her husband and that she only has him now...MLA leaves and the media follows him to get more answers, but he leaves in a haste...they report everything...See what I told MLA now you looked like an idiot in front the whole nation or maybe worldwide 😛 😆 😆...On a serious note, he felt like slapping SP for being so damn cruel and insensitive, he knows that he is lying but still he puts up this fake facade, he has falling in front of Aarti already and yes some may say that Dubeyji did her wrong but atleast he accepted his mistake and apologize for it whereas SP is just keep on lying and has no remorse 😡 😡 😡

Pratik says that the MLA fell over his overconfidence, G3 comes up to SP and asks for forgiveness for doubting him and that she will never forgive herself...SP tells her that marriage is based on faith and that they should try never to break their faith...God that man have no conscience, I can't wait for him to fall off his high horses 😡 😡 😡

Yash looks over his shoulder at Aarti who is standing in the back of him and says in self talk that their trust and understanding will always remain intact...Aww I don't want anymore MUs between AarYa 😳 😳 Aarti will tell Yash the truth and if he does find out about it from someone else or on his own...He want him to remember how she tried to tell him the possibility of SP being guilty and him saying that even if God says that SP is wrong, he won't believe him 🤔

Akash is about to go back into the tent when Pratik holds his hand and asks him where is he going, Pankaj comes and asks Ramdulare to get the things they had to honor their guests...SP looks at Radha and says that given where she comes from a low level stunt like that can only be done by her, he proceeds to tell her to take her illegitimate son and to leave the house before his sons take it upon themselves to throw them out the house and avenge their father's insult...Aarti is sadden to hear that while Radha is crying...Aww the pleading looks Aarti and Radha were giving each other just broke my heart 😭 😭 😭...How could SP stoop so low to say those kind of things to the mother of his child, he is doing the same thing that P did when he was insulting Aarti in the part 😡 😡 😡 Because someone comes from a lower castle doesn't make them less than you are, SP...look at you who comes from a rich family but your morals are at a lower level than Radha's 😡


PRECAP: SP is shown burning the original DNA test, he throws it in the bin but all doesn't get burn...Yash is walking when the piece of paper flies under his feet and it is the lab report...SP is so cruel not even a glimpse of remorse on his face when he is burning the paper did he ever think about who it must has been for Radha raising his child on her own but what he doesn't know is that he is denying his child with G3 so what will he do when he comes to know that Yahs is Radha's son, will he behave the same??? 😡 😡



The entire cast was fantastic today 👏 👏 👏...the dance sequences were well done, Gurmeet Choudhary portrayal of Yash's anger and Kratika Sengar's portrayal of Aarti's anguish ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

Dolly was awesome as well, Radha's heartache when SP was badmouthing her and her son was well portrayed by her 👍🏼 👏
Edited by Zetter - 13 years ago
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Wowww Today was a blockbuster episode with a wonderful song-dance sequence where GC was at his best 👏👏 followed by the DNA report drama 👍🏼



Yash will definitely find out the truth since its Shivratri 🤔,...


I will start my take with the precap since its the most exciting part of the episode where we see SP burning down the real DNA reports but the half burnt part falls under Yash's feet ... If he just looks into the paper , he can clearly see SP's name and positive written besides there since that part is not fully burnt 😛...


I get a feeling Yash will find out the truth himself tomorrow as it goes with Mahadev's samudra manthan symbolism and there is certainly a connection here between showing this twist on Shivratri ...


Mahadev himself consumes all the poison to save the world from destruction during samudra manthan while Parvati stands on his side ... In this case precap clearly suggests that Yash will be first one to find out the poison under his feet , that is the half burnt real DNA papers under his feet and then Yash will decide to consume this poison that is the bitter truth to save a mother and her son , that is Radha and Akash's dignity outside where both Pankaj and Pratik r almost raping their dignity by putting black colour on Akash's face ,.. Yash will go out and stop this nasty game and will himself reveal the bitter truth regarding the DNA reports


SP might still not accept Akash as his son and will further go on to abuse Radha's character when Aarti will become Yash's parvati in this case and try to dilute the bitterness of the poison by revealing the real truth regarding Yash's identity so that SP finally accepts his fault ... SP will accept his fault only when he will come to know that Akash is actually the legitimate son of his while Yash is his illegitimate son 😊...




SP is a heartless cruel man who can go to any extreme to keep his image intact in society even if it means humiliating his own blood just because he took birth from women who does not belong to his high class society


What is really shocking here is SP not once had any remorse for whatever he did with Radha ... Even after seeing the reports positive , not once he showed any emotions for his own blood ... he was rock solid and heartless while burning the DNA reports ... It will b really interesting to see if he turns heartless towards Yash too once he comes to know Yash is Radha's son while Akash is his legitimate son 🤔 ... He hates Radha and Akash because of their low class ganda khoon na ?? So now when he finds out Yash has same low class ganda khoon , will he start hating Yash too with same passion ?? 😡😡


MLA today took too much of unwanted footage to prove that SP is Akash's father and so my daughter is Scindia bahu 😆😆 .. In the end he had to face real humiliation today in front of Media when he had to tell to everyone that DNA reports r negative ... Moral of the story is never b overconfident before checking the facts 😆😆... If MLA was so desperate to give the Scindia rights to his son-in-law , then he should hv actually re-changed those fake DNA reports after chking the negative results rather than making a fool of himself in front of media without even checking the reports 😆😆...

This whole incident reminded me of recent real life cases where after all the tall claims in front of media , reports turned negative in the end minute .. Shiney Ahuja Case or Madhur bhandarkar case or some politician's case (dont remember the name ) .. there hv been so many cases where power and money ruled over the truth and reports ,evidences all turned upside down in the end ...

So I m glad CVs r taking up these issues which still exist in our society where high influential people can still manipulate the facts with the help of their money power and position ... SP belongs to that category of peopple who can go to any extreme by using his power to make sure his reputation in society remains intact even if it means misusing his power and proving an innocent woman wrong by badly humiliating her character 🤢


These things r more observed in places like UP,MP and Bihar ... In fact in worst cases Power is also used to kill the victims .. here at least SP does not fall so low and just changes the DNA reports 😕 ...




Will Yash once again loose his trust on Aarti once his real identity truth will b out ?? 🤔



After DNA reports came negative , when Gayatri was telling SP about trust and understanding between husband-wife , that time Yash looked back at Aarti telling to himself that our trust and understanding will always remain intact 😳 ... I m sure this scene has some future purpose and we might see Yash's trust on Aarti getting shaken up a bit 🤔

Yash trusts Aarti and expects her to tell him everything especially after the Prashant fiasco .. But even now Aarti is hiding the truth about his real identity right from the snake biting time .. We cant blame Aarti because Aarti knows that even if she tells the truth to Yash , he wont believe her because SP is his father after all and Yash himself said even if God says SP is wrong , he wont believe .. So Aarti not telling the truth makes sense here even though later when Yash will find out about his real identiy whether its tomorrow or later on , Yash will feel Aarti once again broke his trust by not telling him this big truth even though she knew it all ...

Tomorrow Yash might come to know half truth about Akash as SP's son after seeing the real DNA reports but it remains to b seen whether Aarti tells him the full truth about his real identity too or this truth remains hidden for now which in future might trigger up the trust issue between AarYa once again and we might see their clash over it 🤔



Gurmeet rocked the dance floor today on "nache re madhubala" sequence ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Last but not the least , what a spectacular dance performance by Scindia brothers after consuming Bhang especially Gurmeet as Yash who not only dances to glory with his brothers but also plays the dhol in killer style 👍🏼... I guess this is the last time we see Pankaj-Yash-Pratik happily dancing together and hving fun 😭😭 ... It looked as if the actors actually enjoyed dancing in real and so the expressions looked all natural too 😳

I loved the part where Yash goes towards Aarti and does the dharmendra step around her and then flirts with her by giving her those naughty looks 😳😳... Poor Aarti could not enjoy it all which is understandable since she knows the truth and was in a dilemma but I loved the way Yash was in complete naughty mode after hving the bhang 😆😳... Bhang always turns him on 😉😆😛...

Overall the song-dance sequence was nicely shot 👏👏👏


Episode was a total dhamaal and the pace was just perfect today ... Precap makes us not only curious for next episode but also lots of questions r going to arise now in case Yash sees the burnt report which is the real one 🤔


Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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@ Zet: Loved your picture take
Episode Analysis

The episode starts with both families performing puja. SP and the entire family are outside in front of a huge idol whilst Akash and his family are in the tent with a small one. After the puja the brothers drink bhang and start with their merriment. When this starts Akash and his family seems upset. There is merriment all around except for Aarti who is serious even when Yash comes to her dancing. Towards the end of the dance Prateek and Pankaj tease Akash, upsetting him further and causing him to walk inside. Ishita follows him and places her hand on his shoulder but he shrugs it off so she does it again but this time he holds her hand to move it the same time she motions for him to keep his kool. Radha comes in the same time and does the same.

On the outside SP places tikka on each of his sons, the same time the MLA arrives with the results. Radha is about to apply tikka on Akash but he stops her telling her that Akash's father should do the honours. The MLA then calls out to SP telling him that today the world will know his true face and his daughter will get justice as she will be a Scindia daughter in law rather than a driver's wife. Both families assemble to the centre in a face off setting. Yash then tells the MLA that the report will only have the truth and that is that his father is not a liar. Before opening the results the MLA tells SP that he should accept the fact that Akash is his son since the media made it into such a highlight so Yash tells him that liars and cheats are the ones whose name will be blackened, not his father's as he is truthful. The MLA delays opening the report some more so Yash tells him to stop delaying as the family knows the truth but these other people are just here for publicity.

MLA then tells Akash not to worry as victory will be theirs and asks the media to get their cameras ready. Aarti meanwhile prays for Yash to get the courage to face the truth that might be revealed in the reports. The MLA opens the results and is sees it as being negative so he stops in shock while the media urges him to give an answer. He tells them the results then goes to Ishita and asks her to leave with him but she refuses saying that Akash is her husband and her destiny is tied to him. Pankaj celebrates with Prateek while Aarti wonders how the report could be wrong. Radha too realises that SP showed his wealth and status by tampering with the report. The media then questions SP as to why Radha and Akash placed such allegations on him so he tells them that he should ask that question to the relevant persons directly.

When the MLA and media leave, Gayatri comes and asks forgiveness for doubting him even for a second. He tells her not to think like that as a husband-wife relationship is based on trust and understanding which both parties need to nurture for a successful marriage. Yash thinks to himself that his and Aarti's relationship will not weaken. Akash is about to leave when Prateek stops him reminding him of his entry to their lives so now they want to give him a fitting response. SP then tells Radha and Akash that they should go back to wherever they came from before his sons take revenge on them.

Looking forward to tomorrow's episode.

Edited by saf24 - 13 years ago
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@Zetter : Thats a beautiful picture take on false pride 👏👏👏... Ansh-PayPal will b certainly glad of their parents in near future but same cannot b said about Scindia sons because what their father did years back is nothing to feel proud of and once the truth comes out , I can very well see Pankaj-Pratik and Yash loosing that respect they had for SP ... SP will finally come down from his high horse now ...
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@Jyo: Thank you very much my friend 🤗...true Ansh & PayPal will be proud of their parents IMO they already are especially Palak the way she looks up to Aarti ❤️

As for SP, he will fall really hard in the children they will all be devastated over his falsehood


@Saf: Thank you my friend! 😃




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Where is the crowd today ?? 😕
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Is the episode starting at 10.15 today? or is it the usual episode today?
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Hello All...!!

Nice title.. Samana...!!



@ Jyoti :

Bhaang CON...😆 Guess everyone in Scindia family have their "Uss Raat " saga...😆


@ Zetter :

Nice take... for SP.. his pride means more than his life... How in the world.. is he going to face everyone..once the truth about Radha and Akash comes out..

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