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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vedo

Haaye those were the days...for me AnSh certainly haven't lost their charm but when I look back at those epis I can't help but sigh! I LOOOVVVEEED KKCS & Sarpanchjee constantly butting heads!


I did too. So much UST. They're STILL chock full of UST, but it would come out more were Anandi to become a little bit more her own person, and a little bit more self-possessed, that's all. I love the girl with all my heart, and I understand her pain, but she needs to try to please other people a little less and herself a little more. Granted, it's Ajee, and others are her life, but that's growth, isn't it? Figuring out you have responsibilities to yourself?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

You raised quite a few valid points.


But what I did not get was is it about the episodes of BV or the structuring of the AnSh scenes.

The show is all about Anandi and Jagya in the centre and their changing eqations in their relationship as time passes by and the people they meet and those include Gauri,Shiv and now probably Ganga who entered their lives.

So the screen time has to be divided between J and A stories.

As for Shiv and his childhood and family background they have shown us very well and we do have a very clear picture of Shiv grew up in a happy and loving family who had the best possible education and every thing life had to offer.He had a childhood pampered by two mothers.He probably was good at everything he did. Through Ashi we got to know what kind of a life he led in London and what his ideals and dreams were.I don't think there is any necessity show more about his life that and what he was before he met A.They have given us a very clear picture of what he was like in his childhood family background education his family memebers. They have given us a clear idea what each member of his family is like.If they show anything more than this it will be superfluous.
They introduced Shekhars to show Anandi a different kind of people and they succeeded in doing so.

As for Shiv's professional background - they have shown that he is an upright govt officer who doesn't hesitate to pull strings to help people.He is not afraid of doing what is right.

Afterall this is a show about balika vadhu who became a sarpanch from being an abandoned wife.It is has to concentrate on her more than him.He is just an extension of her.The only thta is important is her relationship with him on all fronts.They are showing his life and about him through AnSh scenes.Shiv is supposed to be seen mainly from Anandi's perspective.That's how they cntinue to show him.I do feel that they have done full justice to Shiv's character it is fully fleshed out and I don't see any gaps there.

He cannot be expected to have equal footage on screen as Anandi.Simply because A happens to be the main lead and S is a parallel male lead.


As for showing his childhood in flash backs like they did Ganga's story is totally unnecessary. Ganga's was shown because her story needs to make and impact and it is essential to know where she is coming from. Afterall she is part of the theme balkiavadhu.

Same thing they did with Gauri too.They did not show much but they have given us a good idea where she is coming from when they revealed that she was the balikavadhu who DS got as the second wife to J.

And as for family members getting screen space - Singhs will get more footage because they form the part of the theme of the story balikavadhu.And the story happens in Jaitser and Haweli forms the stage.Shekhars cannot be expected t have more screen space than Shings.

J's story parallels to the story of A so his story and him will get more footage than Shiv.Whether we like it or not J is the main male lead.So he will take one half the entire screen time.

Remaining time goes to Anandi and AnSh and not Anandi and Shiv.

As for the progression of AnSh - their relationship is progressing quite well and the consummation I think they are dragging it simple because SR in tv shows is a turning point.

I think the footage and the episode formattng is quite fine as it is IMO.








The first thing I would argue is that Shiv is no longer a parallel main lead. Gauri was a parallel female lead, but Shiv's wild popularity has brought him center stage. Not just that, but the main lead is Anandi. No male or female here - she's not the female lead, she is the lead. She was the one with whom we started the story, and she is the one we're following. Jagdish and the Singhs, although integral to her story, and integral to the social message, are a part of her story. And now, so is Shiv. So I would say that Shiv and Jagdish are both the main male leads or parallel main leads. It's balika vadhu, not balak var.

On to structure - I didn't elaborate when it came to Jagdish, but even his story had a structure. By structure, I mean each episode had a key point, and a key point wasn't repeated again and again, and was resolved quickly. So one episode would be about his not helping Gauri out, another of Gauri's selfishness, another of lies, each a point in a deteriorating relationship. As opposed to - redemption, redemption, redemption, more redemption. And no SR-problem, no SR-problems, no SR-problems, still no SR-problems.

There also weren't as many random and draggy episodes, like Makar Sakrant.

Back to Shiv, if he is one of two parallel male leads or one of two main male leads, he deserves a bit more time, especially as Anandi finds out about him, as you said, since it's her POV. I never meant to say he isn't a fleshed out character - he's bursting with personality, and there are very few characters who are like that. But there's no harm revealing key points in his life in conversations. The problem is, conversations are literally never about him sometimes, and that's just not realistic.

I also wasn't asking for equal footage for him, but just a little more than the negligible levels we're seeing now. Because back then, we saw him with Bheem Singh, we saw him on the phone, we saw him with police, etc. There's less of that stuff now.

Also, again, I wasn't asking for fb's. Nor am I asking for more screen space for Shekhars than Singhs, but a little more than just what rasams they like and 'statue' and what they think of Anandi. There's plenty of space to go around, what with unnecessarily long and repetitive scenes and dialogue.

My final point was just about that - BV has been different, but they're giving in to the trp trap. They'll have even more trp's if they don't drag this SR thing out, and so they shouldn't.
Episode formatting - I guess we just differ in opinion then. We can agree to disagree. 😊


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: poiu123

I think BV bashing will stop when Shiv fans realise that Anandi and Jagya are the central characters of story and Shiv /Ganga are the parallel leads.

Some may argue that Shiv appears on the montage. But thats only becuase he is Anandi's husband.
In the actual show , Jagya's scenes are more that Shiv since the last 6 months (except for a brief period when Shashank was on a holiday).
So , if ppl watch the show with their expectations set correctly , they will probably enjoy it more.


I'm not bashing BV. I'm sharing opinions with like-minded people. Wanting a show to be better and tightly written is not the same as bashing it.

Anandi is the central character. Jagdish was the main lead since he was part of Anandi's story, and now Shiv is just as big a part. Like I said in a reply to someone else, I'm not asking for Shiv's scenes to outweigh Anandi's or Jagdish's, but a little bit more screen time, as is due to someone who's on the same footing as Jagdish.

Also, the post is for people who preferred the May-June episodes. That was the first line of the post. If you disagree, why read the thing and respond to it?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Do you have anything more substantial I can respond to? 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shivandi

The first thing I would argue is that Shiv is no longer a parallel main lead. Gauri was a parallel female lead, but Shiv's wild popularity has brought him center stage. Not just that, but the main lead is Anandi. No male or female here - she's not the female lead, she is the lead. She was the one with whom we started the story, and she is the one we're following. Jagdish and the Singhs, although integral to her story, and integral to the social message, are a part of her story. And now, so is Shiv. So I would say that Shiv and Jagdish are both the main male leads or parallel main leads. It's balika vadhu, not balak var. You are right she is the lead and J is the other central,character with rest of the characters revolving around them.The story is looking at the lives of these two characters right from their childhood through adolescence to young adults to adults and the hanging equations in their realtion and how that affects their other relationships and how it influences the way they perceive their lives.
On to structure - I didn't elaborate when it came to Jagdish, but even his story had a structure. By structure, I mean each episode had a key point, and a key point wasn't repeated again and again, and was resolved quickly. So one episode would be about his not helping Gauri out, another of Gauri's selfishness, another of lies, each a point in a deteriorating relationship. As opposed to - redemption, redemption, redemption, more redemption. And no SR-problem, no SR-problems, no SR-problems, still no SR-problems.J 's story has a different structure because of the kind of man he is.He is quick to changes his mind and the story changes accordingly.
As for Aanndi her character has been designed that way she is stable and for her to change it takes a lot more.Most likely from on Jagya's story will drag because he has reached to the stage where Annadi was when she was abandoned and where she was in a state that she wasn't ready for a relationship

There also weren't as many random and draggy episodes, like Makar Sakrant.Makar sankrant I agree every one thinks that is dragged but I.'m in a minority there.I thought a lot of story was told with makar sankranti as the back drop.They showed Anandi building bridges with the new additions in her life namely the Shekhars.And most importantly she tld him how much his love and support meant to her and what he means to her.She effectively tld him with out him her life would have been like a kite fallen by the side with no strings.That is a phenomenal admisssion coming from her.She gave him her first gift which was brave of her given the fact the last time she had given gift to the man in her life was so cruelly rejected by him.

Back to Shiv, if he is one of two parallel male leads or one of two main male leads, he deserves a bit more time, especially as Anandi finds out about him, as you said, since it's her POV. I never meant to say he isn't a fleshed out character - he's bursting with personality, and there are very few characters who are like that. But there's no harm revealing key points in his life in conversations. The problem is, conversations are literally never about him sometimes, and that's just not realistic.He and Ganga previously Gauri fall in the same category.That's what the story tellers have us believe.He obviously gets the same amount of footage as Ganga wil get and GAuri used to get.The points will be revealed as per the requirements of the story.Just like they revealed about Gauri's childhood or Ganga's childhood.
I also wasn't asking for equal footage for him, but just a little more than the negligible levels we're seeing now. Because back then, we saw him with Bheem Singh, we saw him on the phone, we saw him with police, etc. There's less of that stuff now. As for that matter even Anandi's has not been shown working till now.And once his professional aspect is needed in the story I am sure they will show him in office.It is not the story of Shiraj Shekhar IAS
Also, again, I wasn't asking for fb's. Nor am I asking for more screen space for Shekhars than Singhs, but a little more than just what rasams they like and 'statue' and what they think of Anandi. There's plenty of space to go around, what with unnecessarily long and repetitive scenes and dialogue.By showing more of Shekhars what exactly will they tell us?That how Anandi will bond with her in laws?Which they have already shown with the Shinghs showing her doing the samething winniing their hearts is what exactly a telly bahu does are we really interseted in seeing that?They show Shings more because they are more relevant to the theme of the story.Shekhars were just brought in to show a different world through them.But they made it very clear that her life is in Jaitser that's the reason why Shivraj Shekhar was brought in to Jaitser.They did not take Anandi out of Jaitser to make her meet a new man.If they want to give importance to the Shekhars and keep the story moving they will have to bring them to Jaitser and get them involved in the main story rather than just show them as in laws of Anandi and them causing trouble and demanding attention and getting footage and screen space.

My final point was just about that - BV has been different, but they're giving in to the trp trap. They'll have even more trp's if they don't drag this SR thing out, and so they shouldn't.BV is different because it stuck to the basic story it started off and stuck to it's theme and all the tracks they have shown so far has been about the plight of women in Rural India.Agreed SR shouldn't be dragged this way.
Episode formatting - I guess we just differ in opinion then. We can agree to disagree. 😊
The makers have been telling us that this is the story of a balika vadhu whose wings have been clipped because of bal vivah and the story of her naadan bewakoof balak var who let his bal vivah color his life and vision and fell into a pit.The story is about her growing wings and him getting himself out of the pit that he fell into.The episodes have to be divided to tell these two stories.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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relax guys...the only problem i feel with the serial is that whenever they show AnSh they lack the chemistry they use to have...the intensity of the scenes have blurred out...we lost our cheerful anandi and kadak collector who stole our hearts...they have somehow changed the strong personality and presence of these characters...😭
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think the May - June episodes were special because we had a new man for Anandi.. after months of watching her feel miserable about J, it was so nice to know that someone is on the scene for her alone. There was the anticipation of a great romance - Shiv was shown to be a no nonsense, serious kind of guy and Anandi had loads of baggage to deal with. I was looking forward to each of them getting through to the other, understanding each other and then the relationship would take off.

The following, according to me, were the let downs:

1. Shiv has totally changed. I dont see any sign of the serious collector. I know that we are seeing him only in the post marriage groom mode now, but there is scope for his original characterisation to come through. I dont think its necessary to show him as eternally patient and smiling. Its ok if he loses his cool once in a while.. is generally a little more emotional, a little more intense when it comes to his wife.

2. The way their marriage happened, with anandi being forced into it by her dying mom.. it just killed most of the anticipation for me. I would have been happier if their relationship had been allowed to develop in its own time. The story is a little typical now. I think most of us would have guessed that they are going to have a "touch me not" kind of marriage in the initial phase

3. That period also had a big build up towards the collapse of J-G relationship. I dont like the way the whole thing was handled. Jagya walking away from G because of that bade papa issue dint seem like reason enough. Then his crazy phase, sudden redemption with everyone forgiving him and now there seems to be a possible new romance for him.. I find it difficult to accept all this. Jagya doesnt deserve a fairy tale ending. He needs to be in repentance mode for a long time to come. As awful as Gauri was, I dont think J showed himself as a great guy by walking away from her. Dumping two women as easily as he did deserves some more punishment, I think.

4. Anandi.. well, I just want to shake her sometimes. I have been finding it more and more difficult to relate with her and sympathise with her. Her life has been a fairy tale compared to what Ganga has been through.. I am just happy she finally said it in an episode this week. I hope she starts focussing on being happy. She deserves it and life has given her a second chance.

Other than the above, well, I wonder how the story will proceed now. Unfortunately, it doesnt grip me as much as it used to earlier. I watch when I can and catch up with the updates on this forum when I cant. Very different from the days when I used to feel like the day wasnt complete if I dint watch the serial.

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