[QUOTE=AnjanaYYZ
sorry i saw this post now
To me J is more culpable cuz he actively decided to ruin lives of two girls: Anandi and GAURI. Gauri had moved on from her past. She abhorred Bal Vivah and had moved ahead of it in her life. She was considering the rishta that Badepapa wanted her to consider. When Jagat declared he loved her then mislead for years...you say he did it out of love for her. I see SELFISH DESTRUCTION of her FUTURE in this Action. Even convincing her to remain "married" after they realized they were not legally married - I hold J more culpable. Y? Because he was the one "married" and "marrying". Unlike Kunta Tai I blame the man/woman who is in two rishta's more than the "homewrecker".
Did he know from day one she is the same girl whom i was married in childhood..?.i guess both come to know at one time or i forgot something ..she ruined her own life and please even her parents said to her think before it she didn't want to so how J became her life destructor ..?i failed badly to understand this Anjana ...an educated matured woman knew everything while marrying J ..didn't bother to if get information properly before tying knot so how she is less i failed in it and i think my dear even sweet dear Gauri too did all her works knowing very well what could be future of it which can ruin so many lives she was planning and plotting conciously or unconsiously? .everything she did didn\t happen when she was sleeping ? right ?or she never knew what my work will lead to ?..she even knew naa my hubby is dying to go back to his family and when he will know truth he won't like it ,..she even knew what i am doing why why i am doing? so why she is less for you ..thats your personal opinion but every person is responsible for his her sins and Gauri did all her works consciously she was not forced to do any ..she did every wrong work knowingly or tell me where she was forced or made to do wrong ...? also don't think if J did any wrong that has given birth right to every person in the world to do wrong and he becomes less and J will go to hell for their share of sins because he did wrong naa ...sorry failied to understand your points about G ,,,the point is she willingly . intentionally , consciously not in any sort of misunderstanding or confusion with zillion chances given by destiny to think but she didn't she did wrong so how she became less God knows... out of my mortal person\s understanding
Coming to Gauri ka Selfishness and malicious behaviour with Bhairon, the rest of the Singhs and Anandi. She is CULPABLE. But, no more so than J. J is their blood and was Anandi's husband. Yet for his selfishness, he could manipulate them - ask Anandi for money while ditching/cheating her simultaneously. He could berate Anandi while sleeping with Gauri and actively insult his father and mother to the point they slapped him. So, what was the new in what Gauri did to them vis a vis what Jagiya did to them? Not much!
wow if i slap someone that person goes on slapping everyone that doesn't justfies that person's work ..if she did wrong she is payable for it every bit for it no one is to be blamed for it she herself ..i never said Gauri should not redeem but for her malcious intention her ihhuman behavoir she deserves punishment ...what Jagaya did that didn't gave her liscence to do wrong so keep Gauri with Gauri and Jagaya with Jagaya don't mix them ...Jagaya dong wrong hasn't given enitre world this liscence to do wrong and not a big deal
So, what is Gauri's big gunah that J did not do? She mislead him... she tried to separate him from his family. Boo Hoo! J has not an iota of sympathy from me for that. Cuz - J separated G from her pristine future where Gauri could have been the "legal" wife of someone else with honour. He dragged her into the ditch in the name of "sacha pyaar", so if Gauri was selfish and psycho even in her efforts to keep him from his family then it was no less than he deserved. As for G's psychosis... it is not without foundation. The Singhs seemingly did toss her out like trash as a child, Sumitra did challenge her, and DS did try in her own way to undermine JG ka rishta, and seeing things like the natak for Badimaasi, etc. All of that added to the "illegitimate" nature of their rishta understandably made her insecure. She did try to get him to focus on his career including encouraging him to complete his MS instead of running away from it and did financially support him. Yes. She was not sweet about it like Anandi, but still she was supportive.
so they singhs should have accepted her and loved her ?the bottom line of your point is all fault of those who didn't accept her because that made dear Gauri insecure and made her do wrong ? she was left as a trash in childhood so who made her life she didn't herself and her parents had this AUKAT to reach this status ?.franky speaking Anjana i am not understanding what are you making of this woman😕 who threw axe on her own feet you are saying J did that simghs did that what she did ? she did all her sins consciously ..insecure why she couldn't see J with her .100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chances to understand how many i count here ..from an educated mature woman like Gauri if she behaves like this then i think by this logic even J was innocent ..what he could do..his parents were at fault ..why they did his child marriage ..if he had divorced Anandi even talked about it then family would have let him and accept him happily with G ?...never and wow how good naa she focussed on his career and how conviently you are forgetting her malicious intention behind her challenge with sumi.otherwise you have seen her great love and support her husband is sick she lost her challenge go to hell 4 months have gone AnSh marriage was after 4 months of their engagement right she didn;t bothet to ask what happened to him there so great lover and supporter ..😆and by the way even he made her career i hope you are not forgetting her unfortunate miscarriage ( now here too J was wrong he never stopped her not to drive in pregnancy right?)she was mourning at that time her exam were near so i hope you have seen the episode he even helped her even in studies but behind back no his malicious intention even after knowing she said what to dean and what she did wth Badi massi and great wife she couldn't give one appliation for hubby first landed in Jaitser not because worried for career because as much serial i have seen she needed an excuse to land there and drag him from there so her kartoot won't open to him otherwise later what her reaction to dean was you must have seen when he refused come to with her leaving sick BM ...very much injustice with Gauri 😆and i think later from i love you to worried about career behind always was her challenge to sumi so how it became her GREAT WORKS i fail to understand and she has also eaten lots of his money so why her two timing support once is so much counted where we know behind back she had her selfish purpose ?
Am not Condoning G's wrongs, I am just considering them on par with J's wrong and finding his paap's greater even as regards her then his.
disgree with you completely here i am sorry but you are having two appraoches at one time you are saying She did no gunah that he did'n't do at other you are saying he is bigger sinner than her ?which sin of her is less i am still confused ..?when she didn't do any of sin unconsiouly not in any confusion so how she became less failed to understand ?
I also see her "guilt" in a lot of things - one aspect of her possessiveness is guilt and this was most apparent in the Bhibhoot track. There her Lady MacBeth types guilt was rather apparent. If she is not guilty then y would Bhago be after her?? 😆
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didnt get it ...lady macbeth guilt then she should have committed suicide by now ..isn't it ..she too even tries 😆please don't compare this cheapo woman to lady macbeth at least lady macbeth got some shame but this woman never so she is even worst than her ----
Why I think G's redemption is story ahead - If CVs did not want to leave scope for JG ka reunion and G ka redemption then they would not have left her pregnant. Unless they show her dead, aborting, or abandoning the baby... there is scope for her resurrection and redemption. They just did not smartly want to show it along with J's and or the J-A-S triangle. So, they planted the "seed" literally and left it for the future. If no JG reunion was in the cards then there was no need for the pregnancy.
Their stupidity ..why they turned J villain ...did they do anything worthwhile with that track .they only did that to lock JaAn chapter forever otherwise previously they were damn clear they won't let this relation stay but previously they were planning JaAn reunion the original story is changed even cvs told that but it doesn't necessarily means there will be Jagaya Gauri track they have also shown Gauri complete selfish till her last appearance so there can be other tracks too not necessary there will be JaGa .a must ..why they used term burn down to ashes to their relaion on their last moral ? all love relations marriage relations based on lies burn down to ashes ..? if they really wanted to reunite them ...so there are many questions which only cvs can answer no suretly of anything
And if the CVs could redeem DS, J, and Mahveer - then Y not G.
who said her not to redeem but if you check what what wrong these peope did ..they failed in every of their wrong decision never to get that thing back to them so why not dear G ? this is my question ..they all didn't have empty wins type sweet punishment but they lost so should be G or she is very less sinner she shouldn't ..she desveres some special credit for her life long noble works
As for moral messages. JG ka adulterous relationship was wrong message. But, they have no physical or legal rishta now. Their marriage if done correctly now would not be a wrong moral message but, the correct one especially in light of the baby. Yes. Two unmarried adults can raise a baby together, but ideally they should sort our their differences, marry, and do so together
That will only make new message ''luck'' ..lucky enough to get a bacha so all is well so better all should get physical and have babies tada especially for Gaurt type women luck favors a lot because see this was a part of her planning and plotting if i remember she even use to hug him to lure him don't go anywhere stay with me so worked naa .. and baby is used to be a lucky charm ..great
And if Anandi could forgive him without any substantial reason while he was still doing "amnesia" nautanki and forgive J again after learning what he had done to Shiv...then Y can not J do the same with G? He having no more earned his forgiveness then G!! Forgiveness being more about the "forgiver" not the forgiven anyway.
where anyone said she should not forgive G ...Anandi is true consicence seeker if G will show she will too get ..why not ?Anandi is not hungry do work for me then i will forgive...no if anyone is truly sorry she forgive him /her
Also, separate and apart from "forgiveness" is responsibility. He needs to take responsibility for his child - the one he planted.
he will .do we have doubts on it at least i don't have 😕but why G should get free credit ..i am confused
p.s. Also though the concepts r connected. Forgiveness and redemption are not the same thing. J can forgive G or not without her "realizing" or redeeming! And G can redeem herself without J ever forgiving her. Or both could happen simultaneously or never.
wow great truly great ...if i do wrong then it gives every person in the world chance to do wrong with me and my rights finished ...great approach and keep forgiving this lady without any of her realizing ...she will never realize probably then every wrong work of every person should be forgiven without him realizing so J should have been too naa why singhs lingered him so long .he realized naa long ago .Gauri has own new style guilts ,..i think everyone should forgive G without her realizing or saying sorry even fake .great ..so she never did any wrong whatever she did every noble great wife does that ..she had ever right to do wrong and should be forgiven without her realizing ...really great ..even she got TIT FOR TIT don't forget that 😈what she did with others divine justice is falling over her and will fall more 😛
.Redemption leads to forgiveness ...if she will realize one of her mistakes i will call her redeemed ..what is redemption according to you .? forgiveness no ..redemption comes when you change your wrong attiude to good , realize your mistakes truly ..this falls in redemption category on seeing which even God forgives you otherwise human rights even God doesn\t forgive untill humen themselves do so ..noone forgives you in free after torturing them and troublng them ..hurting them
Without REALIZING if forgiveness for Gauri sorry i don't have that big heart to even consider that and don't consider her worth it without realizing..and i bet even you won't .,,she is not so great and never will be she even not needs to say sorry or realizing ..this is BV no uttaran
here i am not having a competition of J and G ..i never said she should not be redeemed but my simple question why in the world she deserves everything back in her life ...acha if you think she can live loveless life forever so let her live all her life like that ..rejected after all even this woman needs to learn her lesson or not ...if Anandi is teaching something to women so not this disgusting woman G... NOT to BE like her ..right ?
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