An analysis of the swimming pool murder

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Folks,

I saw from the forum yesterday that the overwhelming focus of attention in this episode, for many of you, was the scenes between Arjun and Riya, especially the shower scene and its aftermath. I can fully understand such reactions, as most of you appear to be very young, and for the young, the high romantic is the be all and end all of any story.

However, at the risk of being pelted with something squishy, I must say that for me, while both these scenes were surprisingly gentle and very moving, Arjun seemed more like a concerned adult comforting an anguished and frightened little girl, than even a potential lover with the object of his affection. He understands Riya's mental block and the consequent horror she now feels, and as it is he who has brought it about, he feels responsible for it and wants to help her out of her emotional cul de sac. As I had noted in an earlier post, that he will eventually fall in love with her is a given, but that is a good long way off as yet.

But Riya was really superb as a girl haunted by the blood and the gory death she has caused; Sana is a far better actress than the average pretty faced woman officer in, say, CID or Adaalat. The actual killing was more like something out of Anurag Kashyap's The Gangs of Wasseypur or a Quentin Tarantino film than an Indian TV cops and robbers serial – I watched it, moving the recording frame by frame, and it was really bloody and extremely well done technically.

One question, why is her left arm, the one in which she was shot earlier, in a sling after the shower scene?

As for the argument that Riya might be angry with Arjun for, in effect, hoaxing her into firing, that is a non starter. In fact, she should be thanking him for it on her knees! Riya, as she was, was a walking, talking menace for the ETF. She rushes into every melee brandishing her gun, without a clue as to what to do with it if she and/or a colleague are in mortal danger. She was bound to get herself and/or one of them killed any day, and if I had been Rathore, once I found out about this dangerous mental block of hers, I would have sent her back to the Research Section pronto. I cannot understand his not even giving her an ultimatum about this. It is downright irresponsible of any unit chief to retain a member who, however capable in other ways, is a positive danger to the rest of the team in a crisis.

All this disposed of, I would now like, if you will bear with me, to make a few points about the mystery part of the episode, which was, a few bloomers notwithstanding, a very good one in terms of the core story idea and the screenplay.

Firstly, the double jeopardy angle is a completely new one as far as Indian TV crime serials go – in fact I cannot remember any previous example of it on TV - and it comes as a total surprise because, as in all good mystery stories, the fact that Nitish Agarkar has been identified by the neighbour from Sadashiv Mahato's photo is kept from us till Arjun reveals it at the end. It is poetic justice and it wraps the story up very neatly.

This apart, the way in which the two parallel and only seemingly linked tracks – that of the ganja (marijuana) trafficking and that of the (double) murder(s) – are handled is a treat to watch.

The charas track: As for the first, the look on Shree's face when it dawns on him that he is the candidate for the young charsi khabari is a delight, and even Arjun attempts some deadpan humour here.

When they are questioning the charas distributor about Amit Ray's whereabouts, it comes as a surprise when Arjun stops Rathod's hard-fisted tactics and does a Riya on the chap, so to speak, using the emotional card of his family to get him to co-operate. This gentler approach seems to have rubbed off on him from Riya.

The whole scene of a marijuana dealer, even if he is the kingpin for that area, holed out in what looks like a Colombian drug lord's headquarters, complete with any number of thugs armed with heavy guns patrolling the place, is way over the top. Marijuana is a petty thing as far as the drugs traffic is concerned, and dealers in charas are far more likely to run when faced with the police that to engage in an all out gunfight. That sort of this is for the hard drug barons dealing in heroin and cocaine, like the Medellin mafia of Pablo Escobar and his kind.

The scene is obviously set up that way for the sole purpose of getting Riya into a situation where she has to shoot. The earlier acrobatic exercise which Arjun has to carry out, to save her life as she stands in front of two thugs, paralysed, gun in hand, set my teeth on edge at Rathod's folly in keeping her in the field unit and taking her along into such shootouts. What was he thinking of?

Arjun, even if he still has bullets in his gun, runs a very real risk deliberately – for Riya might still have failed to shoot, and then the outcome would have depended solely on who of the two, Arjun or the thug, had the shorter reaction time. But then he is of the jaan hatheli par liye ghoomte hain kind the polar opposite of the risk averse.

The double murder track: This has many holes that could have been avoided with a little more of attention to detail.

A key one, in the final explanation, is of how the Agarkars got hold of a man close in build to Nitish Agarkar and then killed him just that night on the ghat road. It could not have been some random body from a morgue, for then the time of death would have been found out to be days earlier, and the whole murder theory would have collapsed. This point has been totally glossed over. It is not easy for ordinary people to work something like that.

Nor is it explained how the police did not wonder why the driver, having killed 'Nitish Agarkar', chose to lie there till the morning instead of running away at once. The complete lack of any motive for such a crime – that too with the gruesome smashing of the face and the burning the fingers, to what purpose? - would also have been a major issue. It is all far too pat.

Next, the copy of Rati Agarkar's passport that the Passport Office produces has, at the top, the following names listed: Subhash Mahato, Alka Mahato, and Nitish Agarkar. What where the first two names, presumably Sadashiv Mahato's (imaginary) parents, doing on Rati Agarkar's genuine passport?

Then again, the Rati Mahato passport has presumably been obtained after the murderous couple had settled in Malshet, for the year shown is 2002. It must have been a genuine one obtained in the regular way, like that of Sadashiv Mahato, for neither of the two would run the risk of being caught with a fake passport. How then does this passport have the same number as the earlier one of Rati Agarkar's – EB13742? It is impossible for two genuine passports in two different names (and with two different addresses) to have the same number.

Lastly, it is not explained why the driver, after carrying the luggage to the manager Ram Das's room in the resort, should exit by the swimming pool area, and thus happen to see that Sadashiv Mahato is the same as Nitish Agarkar. He should normally have gone back the way he had come, thru the reception area.

Also, it must have taken him a while to commit the murder in this gruesome fashion, and he should have been afraid of the heightened risk of his being seen by some late night staffer – for the driver did not know about the ban on anyone going near the pool on Sunday evenings. More important, from where did he get the rope and the large stone in the swimming pool area of a resort?

Despite all this, this episode is really good even as a mystery, quite apart from the added attraction of the forward movement in the Arjun-Riya relationship.

I do apologise for the length of this post, and I hope that at least some of you would have the patience to read it and might even find it of interest!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I completly agree with you.
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Thanks a lot. Was it just about my take on Arjun-Riya or about the rest of it as well?


Shyamala

Originally posted by: karnati200

I completly agree with you.

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You have summarized yesterday's epi very well.

I keep mentioning that it will take Arjun long time to get over the loss of his wife. He will only be at peace after he puts the killer of his wife either behind bars or kill him. Even after this, it is not going to be easy for him to accept the fact that he won't be betraying his wife by loving someone else.

This relationship between Ariya is will full turns and twists, I am sure.

Having said this, I must admit, he has come a long way from hating her and scolding her. He does see the potential in her and he took the step to free her of her fear. He also understood her trauma of taking a life because I am sure every new cop goes through this the first time, and he got her through it then got her to focus on the case again.

Rathore, I am not sure why he did not use this as an excuse to get her off the team because I am sure he was not happy that she was on the team in the beginning. May be we will get an explanation some day.

The scene where Arjun looks at Shree and Shree completely oblivious to what Arjun was thinking and his startled expression left me with a huge smile on my face. Love the communication without speaking among the team members. And totally loved the new look on Shree for those few moments.

Ria's sling, I think her wound started bleeding again when she was in the shower and I think this was added on for the continuity of today's episode which was supposed to air two weeks ago.

I was wondering the same thing about the body the first time, like how did they get the body? And why Police didn't question the motive of the driver and all that, but I guess they could only cram so much into 45 minutes.

While some things are researched thoroughly some times they do miss a step, but I guess that too cannot be helped. At least it's way better than the typical Saas Bahu serials that go beyond stupidity.

So far all episodes have been carried out well and I hope they continue to do so with little more attention to details.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hey dear...😊
lovely analysis...i admit that i enjoy ariya romance more than anything in this show...(coz romance with a little action is the ultimate pill for me...😳)
but i have to admit that the plot was a bit confusing some where...
the jeopadzy thing ...was quite impressive even i hadn't heard about this on any show so that was a plus for me...👏
the other thing about the sling...that was a blooper coz i think they had to cast the lost epi today n it was shot before n riya had that caste on her hand in it...so to avoid any mess they just put that caste/sling back again...😆
n about sana's acting...i 100% agree...she comes across as a far better actress than the ones in other crime shows... 👍🏼
the passport part...u shocked me with that one...i didn't notice such tiny details...😕
the same thing pinched me...why the driver had to kill mahato in such a brutal way?? where did he get rope n rock?? n from where did he made an exit??😕

again a lovely analysis...n do pm me if u r thinking of doing an episodic analysis each week...😃 would love to read them...😳
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Thanks a lot. I am pleasantly surprised that you did not tire of the length and you actually enjoyed it! I will try and do analyses of the interesting episodes and will drop you a PM when I do so.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: mushiroxx

hey dear...😊

lovely analysis...i admit that i enjoy ariya romance more than anything in this show...(coz romance with a little action is the ultimate pill for me...😳)
but i have to admit that the plot was a bit confusing some where...
the jeopadzy thing ...was quite impressive even i hadn't heard about this on any show so that was a plus for me...👏
the other thing about the sling...that was a blooper coz i think they had to cast the lost epi today n it was shot before n riya had that caste on her hand in it...so to avoid any mess they just put that caste/sling back again...😆
n about sana's acting...i 100% agree...she comes across as a far better actress than the ones in other crime shows... 👍🏼
the passport part...u shocked me with that one...i didn't notice such tiny details...😕
the same thing pinched me...why the driver had to kill mahato in such a brutal way?? where did he get rope n rock?? n from where did he made an exit??😕

again a lovely analysis...n do pm me if u r thinking of doing an episodic analysis each week...😃 would love to read them...😳

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Thanks a lot for your kind comments; frankly I did not expect that many would have the patience to go thru such detailed stuff and respond as well, so I appreciate your post all the more. I just felt that while a lot had been written about the Arjun-Riya scenes, the main story, which was quite good, too deserved some attention.

I agree with all your reactions, especially that Arjun is way better than the saas bahu serials, of which I watch only BALH and PR, the latter only pro forma as it is getting to be too much to bear. I like Adaalat, and I used to watch CID till about 2003; these days it is just tripe, with no stories and no plotting and far too many actors fighting for screen space. It was so much better in 2002!

Given all this, I have taken to Arjun, which I stumbled upon entirely by chance, in a big way, and I see that we are on the same wavelength where it is concerned. The production values are very good, and the team is small and I like all of them, of course some more than the others! That is already a great deal more than one can normally expect. Now I only hope it does reasonably well and is not cashiered too soon!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sbp1971

You have summarized yesterday's epi very well.

I keep mentioning that it will take Arjun long time to get over the loss of his wife. He will only be at peace after he puts the killer of his wife either behind bars or kill him. Even after this, it is not going to be easy for him to accept the fact that he won't be betraying his wife by loving someone else.

This relationship between Ariya is will full turns and twists, I am sure.

Having said this, I must admit, he has come a long way from hating her and scolding her. He does see the potential in her and he took the step to free her of her fear. He also understood her trauma of taking a life because I am sure every new cop goes through this the first time, and he got her through it then got her to focus on the case again.

Rathore, I am not sure why he did not use this as an excuse to get her off the team because I am sure he was not happy that she was on the team in the beginning. May be we will get an explanation some day.

The scene where Arjun looks at Shree and Shree completely oblivious to what Arjun was thinking and his startled expression left me with a huge smile on my face. Love the communication without speaking among the team members. And totally loved the new look on Shree for those few moments.

Ria's sling, I think her wound started bleeding again when she was in the shower and I think this was added on for the continuity of today's episode which was supposed to air two weeks ago.

I was wondering the same thing about the body the first time, like how did they get the body? And why Police didn't question the motive of the driver and all that, but I guess they could only cram so much into 45 minutes.

While some things are researched thoroughly some times they do miss a step, but I guess that too cannot be helped. At least it's way better than the typical Saas Bahu serials that go beyond stupidity.

So far all episodes have been carried out well and I hope they continue to do so with little more attention to details.

Edited by sashashyam - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thanks a lot for your kind comments; frankly I did not expect that many would have the patience to go thru such detailed stuff and respond as well, so I appreciate your post all the more. I just felt that while a lot had been written about the Arjun-Riya scenes, the main story, which was quite good, too deserved some attention.

I agree with all your reactions, especially that Arjun is way better than the saas bahu serials, of which I watch only BALH and PR, the latter only pro forma as it is getting to be too much to bear. I like Adaalat, and I used to watch CID till about 2003; these days it is just tripe, with no stories and no plotting and far too many actors fighting for screen space. It was so much better in 2002!

Given all this, I have taken to Arjun, which I stumbled upon entirely by chance, in a big way, and I see that we are on the same wavelength where it is concerned. The production values are very good, and the team is small and I like all of them, of course some more than the others! That is already a great deal more than one can normally expect. Now I only hope it does reasonably well and is not cashiered too soon!

Shyamala



You are very welcome dear, and I think your post is very well thought out and made lot of sense. I was interested in the show before I even knew it had a romantic angle to, I am a big fan of Criminal Minds, CSI series and Law and Order criminal intent, so this one had my attention from the first promo, and I admit the added romance make it more enjoyable for me.

Also this is just not a typical love story, but one complicated one too, so it keeps me glues along with all the different cases ETF deals with in each episode.

I have learned my lesson with Saas Bahu serials, and I don't thing any will interest me anymore. In fact I only watch this and IPKKND.

I hope you continue your analysis of the episodes, I am sure we will enjoy them along with posts on Ariya scenes.
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First off, I am a huge fan of police procedural and love reading and writing thrillers. Arjun - is something that caught my eye for being an honest attempt for a cop show and with all its short comings, still makes a decent watch. The episodes are oscillating between good writing and off-direction. Anyway, off to response.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

I saw from the forum yesterday that the overwhelming focus of attention in this episode, for many of you, was the scenes between Arjun and Riya, especially the shower scene and its aftermath. I can fully understand such reactions, as most of you appear to be very young, and for the young, the high romantic is the be all and end all of any story.

However, at the risk of being pelted with something squishy, I must say that for me, while both these scenes were surprisingly gentle and very moving, Arjun seemed more like a concerned adult comforting an anguished and frightened little girl, than even a potential lover with the object of his affection. He understands Riya's mental block and the consequent horror she now feels, and as it is he who has brought it about, he feels responsible for it and wants to help her out of her emotional cul de sac. As I had noted in an earlier post, that he will eventually fall in love with her is a given, but that is a good long way off as yet.

He has noticed her problem with shooting but strangely never asked 'why'. I wish they had induced a short explanation from Riya in a conversation while driving to a crime scene. But I guess she did end up giving her point of view at the start of episode. And yes, it's more of a concerned senior trying to help the youngest in team and he is genuinely concerned about the well being of the entire team. He explains in a previous episode about this and the calmness in which the entire conversation takes place was really well done. She has an idol-star sort of crush on him while he is wrapped in his own tragedy.

But Riya was really superb as a girl haunted by the blood and the gory death she has caused; Sana is a far better actress than the average pretty faced woman officer in, say, CID or Adaalat. The actual killing was more like something out of Anurag Kashyap's The Gangs of Wasseypur or a Quentin Tarantino film than an Indian TV cops and robbers serial - I watched it, moving the recording frame by frame, and it was really bloody and extremely well done technically.

I agree! Technically well done and her trauma ridden reaction was on the spot. It isn't uncommon for law enforcement officers to withdraw and question the humane element of their job. Coming from a desk job, she finds it harder to cope compared to rest of the team. Unless there is a back story involving guns and someone dear to her.

One question, why is her left arm, the one in which she was shot earlier, in a sling after the shower scene?

Bugged the hell out of me. I convinced myself that after shooting something else happened and she got hurt..

As for the argument that Riya might be angry with Arjun for, in effect, hoaxing her into firing, that is a non starter. In fact, she should be thanking him for it on her knees! Riya, as she was, was a walking, talking menace for the ETF. She rushes into every melee brandishing her gun, without a clue as to what to do with it if she and/or a colleague are in mortal danger. She was bound to get herself and/or one of them killed any day, and if I had been Rathore, once I found out about this dangerous mental block of hers, I would have sent her back to the Research Section pronto. I cannot understand his not even giving her an ultimatum about this. It is downright irresponsible of any unit chief to retain a member who, however capable in other ways, is a positive danger to the rest of the team in a crisis.

All this disposed of, I would now like, if you will bear with me, to make a few points about the mystery part of the episode, which was, a few bloomers notwithstanding, a very good one in terms of the core story idea and the screenplay.

Firstly, the double jeopardy angle is a completely new one as far as Indian TV crime serials go ' in fact I cannot remember any previous example of it on TV - and it comes as a total surprise because, as in all good mystery stories, the fact that Nitish Agarkar has been identified by the neighbour from Sadashiv Mahato's photo is kept from us till Arjun reveals it at the end. It is poetic justice and it wraps the story up very neatly.

This apart, the way in which the two parallel and only seemingly linked tracks ' that of the ganja (marijuana) trafficking and that of the (double) murder(s) ' are handled is a treat to watch.

The charas track: As for the first, the look on Shree's face when it dawns on him that he is the candidate for the young charsi khabari is a delight, and even Arjun attempts some deadpan humour here.

When they are questioning the charas distributor about Amit Ray's whereabouts, it comes as a surprise when Arjun stops Rathod's hard-fisted tactics and does a Riya on the chap, so to speak, using the emotional card of his family to get him to co-operate. This gentler approach seems to have rubbed off on him from Riya.

I cannot fully take up on this. Arjun is all about solving a case and though he comes of as perpetual angry guy, he can change bases when situation demands. It's all about getting justice for the victim...

The whole scene of a marijuana dealer, even if he is the kingpin for that area, holed out in what looks like a Colombian drug lord's headquarters, complete with any number of thugs armed with heavy guns patrolling the place, is way over the top. Marijuana is a petty thing as far as the drugs traffic is concerned, and dealers in charas are far more likely to run when faced with the police that to engage in an all out gunfight. That sort of this is for the hard drug barons dealing in heroin and cocaine, like the Medellin mafia of Pablo Escobar and his kind.

Debatable as it really depends on nature of operation. If something larger than dealing marijuana is involved, then this set up makes sense. But it's more...glamorous this way, by the looks of it :-)

The scene is obviously set up that way for the sole purpose of getting Riya into a situation where she has to shoot. The earlier acrobatic exercise which Arjun has to carry out, to save her life as she stands in front of two thugs, paralysed, gun in hand, set my teeth on edge at Rathod's folly in keeping her in the field unit and taking her along into such shootouts. What was he thinking of?

Arjun, even if he still has bullets in his gun, runs a very real risk deliberately ' for Riya might still have failed to shoot, and then the outcome would have depended solely on who of the two, Arjun or the thug, had the shorter reaction time. But then he is of the jaan hatheli par liye ghoomte hain kind ' the polar opposite of the risk averse.

I kept wondering if the criminal was waiting for an invitation to shoot. Who waits so long to shoot an enemy ???!!!

The double murder track: This has many holes that could have been avoided with a little more of attention to detail.

A key one, in the final explanation, is of how the Agarkars got hold of a man close in build to Nitish Agarkar and then killed him just that night on the ghat road. It could not have been some random body from a morgue, for then the time of death would have been found out to be days earlier, and the whole murder theory would have collapsed. This point has been totally glossed over. It is not easy for ordinary people to work something like that.

Nor is it explained how the police did not wonder why the driver, having killed 'Nitish Agarkar', chose to lie there till the morning instead of running away at once. The complete lack of any motive for such a crime ' that too with the gruesome smashing of the face and the burning the fingers, to what purpose? - would also have been a major issue. It is all far too pat.

Next, the copy of Rati Agarkar's passport that the Passport Office produces has, at the top, the following names listed: Subhash Mahato, Alka Mahato, and Nitish Agarkar. What where the first two names, presumably Sadashiv Mahato's (imaginary) parents, doing on Rati Agarkar's genuine passport?

Then again, the Rati Mahato passport has presumably been obtained after the murderous couple had settled in Malshet, for the year shown is 2002. It must have been a genuine one obtained in the regular way, like that of Sadashiv Mahato, for neither of the two would run the risk of being caught with a fake passport. How then does this passport have the same number as the earlier one of Rati Agarkar's ' EB13742? It is impossible for two genuine passports in two different names (and with two different addresses) to have the same number.

What's more unbelievable was any empty Passport Seva Kendra! (PSK) I think one of the passport has to be fake. Then this thread would have been a bit believable. Even if last name or your marital status change, passport numbers change...

Lastly, it is not explained why the driver, after carrying the luggage to the manager Ram Das's room in the resort, should exit by the swimming pool area, and thus happen to see that Sadashiv Mahato is the same as Nitish Agarkar. He should normally have gone back the way he had come, thru the reception area.

Also, it must have taken him a while to commit the murder in this gruesome fashion, and he should have been afraid of the heightened risk of his being seen by some late night staffer ' for the driver did not know about the ban on anyone going near the pool on Sunday evenings. More important, from where did he get the rope and the large stone in the swimming pool area of a resort?

Despite all this, this episode is really good even as a mystery, quite apart from the added attraction of the forward movement in the Arjun-Riya relationship.

More like understanding between the two...but that's just me 😆

I do apologise for the length of this post, and I hope that at least some of you would have the patience to read it and might even find it of interest!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thanks a lot. I am pleasantly surprised that you did not tire of the length and you actually enjoyed it! I will try and do analyses of the interesting episodes and will drop you a PM when I do so.

Shyamala



😆😆 i know i don't come out as a serious person..😆 so ur being surprised was obvious..😉 n thanx dear...will be waiting for ur reviews from now on..n don't worry i dont get tired reading long stuff 😃
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