An analysis of the swimming pool murder - Page 3

Originally posted by: Arieltabi

Nice analysis. I agree with u. We all know Arjun doesn't feel for Riya. He just helped her as a senior. It will take a lot of time for Arjun to feel something for her. But Riya is bringing his soft side out which he kept locked inside him.

There was some loopholes in the epi. But a have a explanation for one scene. They didn't show who was the person. But how will they show it because only two persons knows about the plan one is rati and another Mahato. And they both r died. The body isn't there anymore that they will investigate and tell.

But I also felt the passport thing confusing. How could 2 passport has the same number.And the driver didn't came with a plan so where did he found the rope. When they all went to catch the drug mafia I was thinking the same. Why did Rathore bring her with them. She is good at her research work so that why Rathore keep her in the team but he shouldnot bring her in that kind of mission. But the whole epi was good.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thanks a lot for your very kind comments.

I am too old to gush about a rough and tough guy with a chiselled chin line and an attitude to match, but I hasten to add that I am not too much of a dinosaur not to understand such reactions at that age! It is perfectly natural, and if they enjoy it, why not?

At their age, I had solid crushes on Humphrey Bogart and the young Amitabh Bachchan, which goes to show that I too preferred rough and tough guys with an attitude to chocolate boy looks. Of course, there was no IF then for me to voice my sentiments, and then again we were far more inhibited in those days!

I wrote this long analysis of a particularly interesting episode detection-wise, only to highlight the fact that Arjun has much more to offer than the Arjun-Riya relationship. I am glad so many of you liked it enough to write in.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

I saw from the forum yesterday that the overwhelming focus of attention in this episode, for many of you, was the scenes between Arjun and Riya, especially the shower scene and its aftermath. I can fully understand such reactions, as most of you appear to be very young, and for the young, the high romantic is the be all and end all of any story. Agreed, but I actually wasn't all gushy over that scene...I read thru your post and ended up agreeing with a lot of your points..so I figured it's better for my to just reply instead of write an essay myself! 😆

However, at the risk of being pelted with something squishy, I must say that for me, while both these scenes were surprisingly gentle and very moving, Arjun seemed more like a concerned adult comforting an anguished and frightened little girl, than even a potential lover with the object of his affection. He understands Riya's mental block and the consequent horror she now feels, and as it is he who has brought it about, he feels responsible for it and wants to help her out of her emotional cul de sac. As I had noted in an earlier post, that he will eventually fall in love with her is a given, but that is a good long way off as yet. Exactly, Arjun didn't seem in love, or nearly in love. Nor did he seem like he's growing a liking for Riya...not to me at least. I interpreted Arjun's behaviour much like you did, he's a mature man (in his early 30s according to an interview of Shaleen and Gorky on RangmunchTV) with immense sensibility. He just wanted to explain to her that using a gun for defence purposes is in fact a part and parcel of her job. She can't hold herself responsible for "committing murder" because that's not what she did. Riya has a very structured and theoretical experience in this field since she used to be in the Research Dept., but that's not the case anymore. Now she's expected to be on her feet 24/7 and react to such situation without freaking out. I think Arjun was simply trying to get that point across by first compelling her to shoot, and then sitting her down and gently explaining it to her.

But Riya was really superb as a girl haunted by the blood and the gory death she has caused; Sana is a far better actress than the average pretty faced woman officer in, say, CID or Adaalat. The actual killing was more like something out of Anurag Kashyap's The Gangs of Wasseypur or a Quentin Tarantino film than an Indian TV cops and robbers serial ' I watched it, moving the recording frame by frame, and it was really bloody and extremely well done technically. SAME!!! I watched it frame by frame too!!! Loved it!!! And yeah, Sana is definitely contributin much more to the role than just a pretty face.

One question, why is her left arm, the one in which she was shot earlier, in a sling after the shower scene? Maybe b/c the wound got wet in the shower so it needed to be bandaged up again 😕 Then again, it might have something to do with the fact that this episode was shot much earlier and had it been aired on its desired date then the bandage would've fit in place as a continuity prop.

As for the argument that Riya might be angry with Arjun for, in effect, hoaxing her into firing, that is a non starter. In fact, she should be thanking him for it on her knees! Riya, as she was, was a walking, talking menace for the ETF. She rushes into every melee brandishing her gun, without a clue as to what to do with it if she and/or a colleague are in mortal danger. She was bound to get herself and/or one of them killed any day, and if I had been Rathore, once I found out about this dangerous mental block of hers, I would have sent her back to the Research Section pronto. I cannot understand his not even giving her an ultimatum about this. It is downright irresponsible of any unit chief to retain a member who, however capable in other ways, is a positive danger to the rest of the team in a crisis. Once again, I agree! Riya really has been causing trouble on the playing field. However, she is capable in the theoretical dept., as I mentioned earlier, so if anything, I think Rathore should just send her for more training, or in fact train her himself. It could be a team effort to help Riya improve her shooting skills. After all, Rathore's all about teamwork and I think Riya would much rather learn from her colleagues than be sent back to where she came from. Her researching abilities are definitely helpful for the team, so I actually don't think it would be apt for Rathore to send her back, but instead he should help her improve.

All this disposed of, I would now like, if you will bear with me, to make a few points about the mystery part of the episode, which was, a few bloomers notwithstanding, a very good one in terms of the core story idea and the screenplay. Isn't that the case with all the episodes 😃 Although, I was rather surprised by Arjun's teamworking skills in Saturday's epi. The man who once ventured off on his own to solve these cases...this time he stuck with the group!

Firstly, the double jeopardy angle is a completely new one as far as Indian TV crime serials go ' in fact I cannot remember any previous example of it on TV - and it comes as a total surprise because, as in all good mystery stories, the fact that Nitish Agarkar has been identified by the neighbour from Sadashiv Mahato's photo is kept from us till Arjun reveals it at the end. It is poetic justice and it wraps the story up very neatly. Couldn't have said it better myself! I loved the uniqueness of this plot, it's never been shown before in Indian TV, or at least, I haven't seen it.

This apart, the way in which the two parallel and only seemingly linked tracks ' that of the ganja (marijuana) trafficking and that of the (double) murder(s) ' are handled is a treat to watch. Exactly! I love the crimes this show brings into limelight...and that too with so much ease! I mean these two tracks are significantly different, and to bring them together in such an effortless manner is truly commendable! 👏

The charas track: As for the first, the look on Shree's face when it dawns on him that he is the candidate for the young charsi khabari is a delight, and even Arjun attempts some deadpan humour here. Don't even get me started! I adore Shree and couldn't stop laughing at not only his reaction, but the entire team's reaction. Arjun's deadpan humour was tremendous, but Rathore wasn't lagging behind either!

When they are questioning the charas distributor about Amit Ray's whereabouts, it comes as a surprise when Arjun stops Rathod's hard-fisted tactics and does a Riya on the chap, so to speak, using the emotional card of his family to get him to co-operate. This gentler approach seems to have rubbed off on him from Riya. Hmm...interesting! See, I don't mean to come off as a Riya-basher et al, but I feel like Riya's being given too much importance in Arjun's life..that too so early in the show. I actually didn't think that Riya or her influence had anything to do with Arjun's behaviour in that scene. In fact, I felt that it had to do with his own experience of losing a loved one. I felt that he could empathize with the charas guy and his attachment toward his family, which is why he brought it up to get him to spill the beans. I dunno, I feel like a lot of the show's fans feel that Arjun's changing, becoming softer, etc, due to Riya, whereas I (also a fan of the show) feel otherwise. I think Riya's simply bringing out this side of Arjun that once existed, but it died along with the death of his wife. Although Riya plays an important role in the show and it is inevitable for her and Arjun to end up falling for each other, but I just have a huge soft corner for Roshni. I feel that her presence (or lack thereof) is in fact very crucial to the show and of course, even more crucial in Arjun's life. 😊

The whole scene of a marijuana dealer, even if he is the kingpin for that area, holed out in what looks like a Colombian drug lord's headquarters, complete with any number of thugs armed with heavy guns patrolling the place, is way over the top. Marijuana is a petty thing as far as the drugs traffic is concerned, and dealers in charas are far more likely to run when faced with the police that to engage in an all out gunfight. That sort of this is for the hard drug barons dealing in heroin and cocaine, like the Medellin mafia of Pablo Escobar and his kind. After all, it is Indian TV...they had to go overboard somewhere right! 😆

The scene is obviously set up that way for the sole purpose of getting Riya into a situation where she has to shoot. The earlier acrobatic exercise which Arjun has to carry out, to save her life as she stands in front of two thugs, paralysed, gun in hand, set my teeth on edge at Rathod's folly in keeping her in the field unit and taking her along into such shootouts. What was he thinking of? See, another perspective on this topic is that maybe Rathore isn't aware of Riya's mental block. Sure he knows that she's a poor shooter, but I don't think he knows to what extent exactly. In an earlier episode, when one of the suspects ran away because Riya couldn't shoot him, while Arjun yelled at Riya for being a coward, he simply told Rathore that the guy ran away. As far as I remember, he didn't point a finger at Riya in front of Rathore...so if anything, I'm willing to give Rathore the benefit of the doubt for now...but he needs to get his team together really soon and find a way to help Riya (and essentially themselves) out of this problem!

Arjun, even if he still has bullets in his gun, runs a very real risk deliberately ' for Riya might still have failed to shoot, and then the outcome would have depended solely on who of the two, Arjun or the thug, had the shorter reaction time. But then he is of the jaan hatheli par liye ghoomte hain kind ' the polar opposite of the risk averse. Ufff...and that's exactly what I love about him! His risks are in fact calculated...or so I feel. I think that although he carries his jaan on his hatheli, he knows exactly when to tuck it away and when to use it as bait 😉

The double murder track: This has many holes that could have been avoided with a little more of attention to detail.

A key one, in the final explanation, is of how the Agarkars got hold of a man close in build to Nitish Agarkar and then killed him just that night on the ghat road. It could not have been some random body from a morgue, for then the time of death would have been found out to be days earlier, and the whole murder theory would have collapsed. This point has been totally glossed over. It is not easy for ordinary people to work something like that. Then again, the Agarkars weren't ordinary were they? I don't remember quite frankly, but whatever little that I do remember is that the Agarkars were rather wealthy...so they might've just put their contacts to use to get a hold of this guy 😕 Btw, I didn't really pay attention to this bit at all...so bravo on your part! 👏

Nor is it explained how the police did not wonder why the driver, having killed 'Nitish Agarkar', chose to lie there till the morning instead of running away at once. The complete lack of any motive for such a crime ' that too with the gruesome smashing of the face and the burning the fingers, to what purpose? - would also have been a major issue. It is all far too pat. Okay yeah that I found a little silly too...I mean was the guy really "hungover" (for lack of a better term) all night...and ironically he woke up just in time to be escorted to jail 😆

Next, the copy of Rati Agarkar's passport that the Passport Office produces has, at the top, the following names listed: Subhash Mahato, Alka Mahato, and Nitish Agarkar. What where the first two names, presumably Sadashiv Mahato's (imaginary) parents, doing on Rati Agarkar's genuine passport?

Then again, the Rati Mahato passport has presumably been obtained after the murderous couple had settled in Malshet, for the year shown is 2002. It must have been a genuine one obtained in the regular way, like that of Sadashiv Mahato, for neither of the two would run the risk of being caught with a fake passport. How then does this passport have the same number as the earlier one of Rati Agarkar's ' EB13742? It is impossible for two genuine passports in two different names (and with two different addresses) to have the same number. Damn... 😲 See, I often just watch the show several times simply because the first few times I'm just caught up with the actors, their acting, the screenplay, etc...it is only the third time that I pay attention to content, and even then I often get carried away! But great observations really...I would argue for or against them but I'm literally speechless on that front!

Lastly, it is not explained why the driver, after carrying the luggage to the manager Ram Das's room in the resort, should exit by the swimming pool area, and thus happen to see that Sadashiv Mahato is the same as Nitish Agarkar. He should normally have gone back the way he had come, thru the reception area. Again...didn't think twice about this! LOL...but maybe he did come out thru the reception area..and then went to the pool? I don't know how this hotel is structured so can't really comment on that 😆

Also, it must have taken him a while to commit the murder in this gruesome fashion, and he should have been afraid of the heightened risk of his being seen by some late night staffer ' for the driver did not know about the ban on anyone going near the pool on Sunday evenings. More important, from where did he get the rope and the large stone in the swimming pool area of a resort? Okay yes, this one I did think of..and had no answer. So I'm back to being on the same page as you.

Despite all this, this episode is really good even as a mystery, quite apart from the added attraction of the forward movement in the Arjun-Riya relationship. Agreed! I feel like the Arjun-Riya track is going at a decent pace at the moment, though I'm afraid that the creative team might speed it up in order to please the fans, which would really be a shame because the show would immediately lose its essence! Or so I feel...I mean, again I love Riya, but I just want Arjun and Roshni's relationship to be out of the way before Riya steps in. To put it simply, Arjun needs to "fall out of love" with Roshni, otherwise there will not be any room for Riya. And for this...I want Arjun to take his time...after all, the love of his life was brutally murdered right before his eyes, this isn't a joke. And furthermore, I think it's rather uncalled of on Riya's part to immediately fall in love with Arjun just cuz he's too bloody macho and nice...I mean c'mon...wasn't she the one who indirectly sympathized with him?! Then shouldn't she understand that he can't just throw Roshni out of his life. Believe me, I love Riya, and I don't want her to get hurt by falling in love with Arjun so soon...she needs to realize that by doing so, she will be crossing the line.

I do apologise for the length of this post, and I hope that at least some of you would have the patience to read it and might even find it of interest! Sweetie, I'm all up for essays! Which is why I was so keen on replying to this because I knew that if you took the time to write so much, then you'd definitely be interested in reading that much! LOL! Hope I didn't bore you with my comments!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

My dear Masin,

I wanted to respond to both your posts at one go, so here we go.

I have NO idea WHAT you are talking about when you say that your grammar is 'pathetic'. unless you have edited the whole before I got to it just now! I am a stickler for correct spelling and syntax and the rest, and I could find nothing wrong anywhere in your very interesting post. In fact, you made my day, for there could be no greater compliment than to have someone else not just to take the trouble to read my lengthy post so carefully, but to comment on it in so much detail and so intelligently. I cannot thank you enough!

After going thru your comments with the attention they deserve, I have come round to your way of thinking on

(1) why Rathore has not yet taken steps to make Riya a good shot, and what he should do to that end , while not sending her back to the Research Unit. On this last, you are right and I was wrong, and

(2) on why Arjun handles that charas distributor the way he does.

I also am of a mind with your wrt @ blue in your comments, about Riya and the desirable pace of the development of the likely Arjun-Riya relationship. If you had chanced on one of my earlier posts about show timings, you would have seen that I had said there:

As for Arjun and Riya, I am sure he will fall in love with her eventually, but it is bound to take a long while (provided the series does well and lasts!). Right now, he is all raw and bleeding inside, and all he wants is to kill that Sikandar who murdered his Roshni. It is interesting, his wife's name, for with her passing, all the light seems to have gone out of his life.

You would hardly respect him if he forgot such a beloved wife, who was, moreover, murdered right in front of him, so easily, would you? I would not. If it takes time for Riya to get thru to him,he will be that much more worthwhile as a catch!

Practically the only point on which I do not agree with you is when you say:

"I just want Arjun and Roshni's relationship to be out of the way before Riya steps in. To put it simply, Arjun needs to "fall out of love" with Roshni, otherwise there will not be any room for Riya."

Arjun will NEVER 'fall out of love' with Roshni (for whom I too have a VERY soft corner; she is so lovely and full of life, so warm and loving and yet so much her own person). With time, that love may become a beautiful ehsaas, laid away in lavender in an inner recess of his being, but it will always be there, and it should be.

Right now, he is still largely living in his past, and a too sudden invasion of his innermost private space by even a limited emotional dependence on Riya will only make him feel that he is betraying the memory of his dead wife, and drive him away from Riya. Even after he has taken due revenge on Sikandar, he has to learn to accept this (hopefully) new bond with Riya as something that will not subtract anything from his love for Roshni, which will always be part of him, but as an addition that will be his strength. One can love two people in different ways, especially if one of them is not a physical presence. As for Riya, she has to learn to deal with that - it is like buying a house with a prior mortgage - and if she really loves him, she will.

All this will take time if it is to be at all credible, and I too devoutly hope the CVs do not take any shortcuts that will destroy the integrity of their characters, especially that of Arjun.

Once again, thank you for such a delightful and creative response. I hope that I can depend on you for similar efforts on my behalf when I next attempt something of the same kind, for an episode that calls for a detailed analysis.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: kashishk

Hey dear, seriously this a very amazing analysis, the details and the exemples were awesome. The point you pointed out to some extent were excellent, specially, why the driver left by pool and how he get the needed equipement to kill him.

But yes, I have a little opposition, and I think someone even mentionned here. Riya was basically scared while shooting so it was Rathod's job to make her shoot, not on field only, maye should have sent her to a shooting camp. but Arjun succeeded in making her shoot, by putting his life in risk. Hats of to cops like him.


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Kashish

Originally posted by: SanchayitaM

Aunty I had just finished this part and I am just astonished that the episode, which was my favourite before the Sandhya Murder case aired has so many holes and faults in it. You enlisted them all very neatly.

The shower scene and its aftermath with the be all and end all romance demand is very true. Arjun was comforting Rhea as her senior is evident when he abruptly stood up and almost yelled at Rhea, 'Have you got it or should I explain to you that what is it that is different being an ETF officer and an ordinary girl?' But, the way he cupped her face to relax her was not necessary, a lesson in his firm, cold and assuring voice from Arjun Sir would have worked for Rhea, and I believe Arjun knew that. Still it was the sudden display of his emotions, rather affectionate emotions towards Rhea by cupping her face I think Prove the soft-corner for her exsisted in his heart. It is solely what I think and I believe. But, the fact is that I trust your analysis more than my thoughts nowadays so maybe I am wrong, or may be its my be all and end all wanting for a little space for Arjun and Rhea's heart which is trying to deny the real fact.

And I agree with all your points, they are executed very well. The local police never tried to know that why the driver Prasad waited for police to arrive and take him to the lock-up instead of running away. It was done only to show ETF teams effeciency and brilliancy, our script-writers, irrespectable of the whichever crime-solving show it is never failed to show how ignorant and stupid our local force are only to highlight how good the ETF team or CID team is. They always kind of underestimate and drowned them as if, they are just nothing, they only sit on their table and do no work. It is very bad thing but they do it show how intelligent the team is. At least they are not that stupid which will cause them not to realise why a man will wait police to come and thrust into jail.

The sling on Rhea's hand, I noticed that thing but I never discovered the other big bloopers. Thank you for this impaccaable column which points out each and every minute details, And I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I will go through the stock-broker murder case summary as well very soon. Please let me know, if possible what you felt after reading my comments. Thank you.