Independence-Coz Of Our Freedom Fighter or Not?

I Know We All Studied From Childhood And Heared By Our elders And Teacher that Freedom Fighter Like Mahatma Gandhi , Bhagat singh Etc. gives Us Freedom.
I Respect And admire All The Freedom fighters , They actually gives there life for all us.

But My Qustion Is ,
Is really freedom we get is coz of ure freedom fighter , means yaa no doubt they Fight truely like a warrior but is freedom coz of them ??

As Some history Books Also mentiones That when The second world war take place , where Britain and some countries was on one Side and japan and some countries was on other , The Britain was loosing than USA interfear and blasted Nuclear Bombs In Nagasaki And Hiroshima And world war ended. And Aftr that USA asks Britain to leave The Place and Go and Make their Seprate county and Dynsity.
So they Agreed to leave India in 1949 but in 1947 Hindu Muslim Riot take plce and there on they sepearated India and Pakistan and Left in 1947.


So is Freedom we get is by Hook Or crook or by Our Freedom Fighter.!


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@wave

its Not that Aftr World War Britishers Got tired And All.
They wanted to create their own dynasity and aftr the war they loss many manpower so they decided to go not coz of any of freedom movement by india.
But yaa possible that hindu and muslim riot plays crucial role in it!

Our freedom fighter's had a major role in getting the whole country together to fight against the british the main reason how and why we got freedom is postwar the british were in ruins and the couldnt afford the money for upkeep of their colonies this along with the mutiny within the british indian army lead to british thinking that it was not possible to rely anymore on indian soldier's of british army to control indian also post war elections in england a new labour government had formed who was of d opinion that colonies must be granted freedom,bt majorly it was indian soldier's who wer the backbone of british govt in controlling india had mutinated coz of INA officer's were courtmarshalled after their surrender that lead to sympathy among the indian counterparts

@pratamesh

I agree With you But the new Colonies Which were formed aftr War was Obeying what USA said.
See practically speaking , keeping our sentiments aside even if 100 mhatama gandhi or bhagat singh etc would have come britishers were never gonna leave coz USA was supprting them , USA who ended world war second In just 3 days , which was going on from years...

And when the new colonies were made they follow USA orders and left coz USA wanted not to be called partial in front of world that they helped britishers , thats why they asked Britishers to leave and make their dynasity ... !

Originally posted by: Ankithate

I Know We All Studied From Childhood And Heared By Our elders And Teacher that Freedom Fighter Like Mahatma Gandhi , Bhagat singh Etc. gives Us Freedom.
I Respect And admire All The Freedom fighters , They actually gives there life for all us.

But My Qustion Is ,
Is really freedom we get is coz of ure freedom fighter , means yaa no doubt they Fight truely like a warrior but is freedom coz of them ??

As Some history Books Also mentiones That when The second world war take place , where Britain and some countries was on one Side and japan and some countries was on other , The Britain was loosing than USA interfear and blasted Nuclear Bombs In Nagasaki And Hiroshima And world war ended. And Aftr that USA asks Britain to leave The Place and Go and Make their Seprate county and Dynsity.
So they Agreed to leave India in 1949 but in 1947 Hindu Muslim Riot take plce and there on they sepearated India and Pakistan and Left in 1947.


So is Freedom we get is by Hook Or crook or by Our Freedom Fighter.!


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There is an oversimplification of history in your post.

- America did not interfere randomly, nor was it to help the British. US primarily became fully engaged in the war due to pearl harbor. Prior to that US was negotiating a non-interference treaty with Germany. But when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor US officially declared war.
- FDR was strongly against using the atomic bombs. Had he lived through the end of the war, they may not have been dropped. Eisenhower was too impulsive.
- Britain was definitely on the defensive during the war. However, military theory contends that the allies may have won without USA. It may have been stretched longer and with more casualties but alliance would prevail. Russia of the time was formidable and it would be impossible for the Germans to invade Russia. British also had huge proportions of colonial troops not fully deployed
- The only reason Britain was urged to withdraw from India is because of the freedom fighters. They brought global attention to India and highlighted the ill effects of colonial rule. Had the freedom fighters not been active, no one would have noticed that India was desiring sovereignty and tried to put pressure on the British to withdraw. Without our freedom fighters we may not have got our freedom till the 90's.

@return to Hades

the points except last ,
the points You Mention I Agree with and i didnt mention that all in my post because certainly that was not which i like to know , i dun bothr why USA intrfear , which i bothr is what USA had done that tymm...


So , honestly the all points u mention is correct but i still didnt find the logic of last point. As previous all point were about second world war and than suddenly u gave the conclusion of of our freedom fighter in last point...

That what i am saying this what even said and we all use to hear , but its not the way it is i guess..
We should be Thankfull To USA more than pur freedom fighter who help us gettting freeedom!

Originally posted by: Ankithate

@wave

its Not that Aftr World War Britishers Got tired And All.
They wanted to create their own dynasity and aftr the war they loss many manpower so they decided to go not coz of any of freedom movement by india.
But yaa possible that hindu and muslim riot plays crucial role in it!

Originally posted by: Ankithate

I Know We All Studied From Childhood And Heared By Our elders And Teacher that Freedom Fighter Like Mahatma Gandhi , Bhagat singh Etc. gives Us Freedom.
I Respect And admire All The Freedom fighters , They actually gives there life for all us.

But My Qustion Is ,
Is really freedom we get is coz of ure freedom fighter , means yaa no doubt they Fight truely like a warrior but is freedom coz of them ??

As Some history Books Also mentiones That when The second world war take place , where Britain and some countries was on one Side and japan and some countries was on other , The Britain was loosing than USA interfear and blasted Nuclear Bombs In Nagasaki And Hiroshima And world war ended. And Aftr that USA asks Britain to leave The Place and Go and Make their Seprate county and Dynsity.
So they Agreed to leave India in 1949 but in 1947 Hindu Muslim Riot take plce and there on they sepearated India and Pakistan and Left in 1947.


So is Freedom we get is by Hook Or crook or by Our Freedom Fighter.!


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Originally posted by: Ankithate

@return to Hades

the points except last ,
the points You Mention I Agree with and i didnt mention that all in my post because certainly that was not which i like to know , i dun bothr why USA intrfear , which i bothr is what USA had done that tymm...


So , honestly the all points u mention is correct but i still didnt find the logic of last point. As previous all point were about second world war and than suddenly u gave the conclusion of of our freedom fighter in last point...

That what i am saying this what even said and we all use to hear , but its not the way it is i guess..
We should be Thankfull To USA more than pur freedom fighter who help us gettting freeedom!

The points are just oversimplifications in your post. They are not meant to have a "flow". The last point is not a conclusion drawn from the previous three.

Still, I don't see what is hard to get about the last point. 😕

Firstly, it was not just USA. There was a worldwide movement to give colonial nations freedom. Even within Britain many civilians did not like the fact that their nation unfairly occupied and ruled another. Many British social workers themselves urged the British to withdraw.

Secondly, the important point is that the freedom fighters caused the pressure. Without our freedom fighters no one would be aware that India desired freedom. No one would be aware of the issues of colonial rule. No one would be sympathetic to the cause for freedom. Without our freedom fighters no one would give a damn about India. Everyone would have assumed India is a colony of the British and quite content about it. Even the British would not care to withdraw if things were running smoothly. The freedom struggle was making administration difficult and challenging. It was getting harder and harder to appease the masses. They knew they would have to give people what they desired. Had it not been for freedom fighters, the British would have ignored suggestions of leaving India and continued to reap benefits.

If A causes B and B causes C. You cannot say C is because of B. C is because of A, as without A, B would not occur.

A - India's freedom movement
B - Global Anti Colonial sentiments and pressure
C - Britain Withdraws from India

In conclusion, your statement of owing thanks to USA is not just an illogical and gross oversimplification of history, it is downright disgusting and insulting to the people who gave everything so we could be free people.