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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey I partially agree with you. It is so that Kunal gives up on things when they come on to him. If it was on Siddhi, nothing would stop him. It is not because Kunal as a character just likes to give up, no it's related to his emotional side he hardly exposes.

About 6 yeras back, it just wasn't because of Richa. He tried different things but Thakral ruined them all. What followed was rejection after that. Kunal lost status in society and career, but also his family. Raj had stopped talking to him. I understand disappointment, but everyone did blame Kunal directly wihtout understanding his situation. Only Anand & Seema still respected Kunal but for him being an ethical and right person. They also in a way had doubt on his abilities. So he went to Richa as support and she really rejected all of him. She rejected what defined him. SO that served as last nail. From here on, Kunal felt no one really accepts him the way he is. Everyone wants some change, be it his family or loved ones. And that is hwy he felt like he loser. people don't accept him the way he is so it means he's not good enough of individual, so why bother.

In rape case Kunal didn't give up right away. He was looking for a lawyer, helped Siddhi at every step. He gave up when it came down to Siddhi. He felt his case would harm Siddhi and that was it for him. He no longer cared what happens to him but couldn't bare even thought something may happen to Siddhi.

I agree with this case. In court room Kunal tried to counter arguments; but later it seemed he gave up all along. That was the issue I had. It was not like Kunal. Yes Kunal doesn't care much when it comes to him; but this is not Kunal I know.

So I would say Kunal stops fighting when it comes down to Siddhi's safety. In Nisha-Rohit case Kunal tried to find CD till last minute. He sent his assistant to look for it.

Siddhi too doesn't care much when it comes down to her. Yes but she too is willing to go any extent if it comes to Kunal.
About Kunal only listening to Siddhi; well ti makes sense. No one really accepted Kunal the way Siddhi did. Everyone else kind of tolerated some parts of Kunal's characteristics, while siddhi actually embraced it all. That is why Siddhi's words have more impact on Kunal.
So personally I wouldn't say Kunal just gives up easily; in this case they made it appear so which hurts me lot. Just my POV.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree Kunal always gives up at crucial stages and then its left to Sidhi to finish it up..
In rape case , agree with Jay ,Kunal helped Sidhi till the end and also agree that but for him, Sidhi would not have even got the chance to fight the case , let alone winning it..
during that time in some post chitra had mentioned..which I competetly agree with...
Kunal gave up 5 years ago , because he had nothing left, his love had betrayed him, left him and he was a loner, had no zest , neither a reason nor the will to fight, which was fair enough...but during the rape case Sidhi was with, by that time he was already in love with her and wanted to be with her , so instead of giving up he should have continued fighting.he had reason to carry the fight..Ok he was scared for her safety but she is more in danger if he is not around.. which is a big enough reason to fight and not give up,
even in this case, he tried his best , no doubt , and Thakaral used all his experience and money etc but now he had not one but two reason to fight , Sidhi and his unborn child..so instead of giving up, he should have been the one thinking on how to come out and plan his next move sitting in the jail..he still can fight the case, he is not barred so why give up ...I think this is something which he should learn... not to give up...fight until you succeed..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Exactly this time he had two major reasons to keep fighting: His wife and his unborn. He knew that both were at risk and he should have been pushing himself to come out somehow and protect them. So I was surprised when he gave up so easily. But I am glad that in the last few episodes they have been showing how he wants to come out and protect his wife and child
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hima there z only 1 ans ac 2 me that creatives want to show kunal chopra in that particular way-else there were innumerable gates open where his parichay could b portrayed beautifully. I wnder if they undrstnd what is meant by a person's parichay :-(
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with d.padmini & paradigm - here he does have 2 reasons.
During rape case he had not given up until he thought it's either his innocence or Siddhi's safety. So more or less I'll give him that. But here that is not the case at all.
If he looks at siddhi's safety, Kunal being in jail actually goes against his concern. Thakrals are out there and Siddhi is all alone. So that actually goes against his nature and complete assassination of his role as a husband and promise to Siddhi of always fighting to be with her. Even Kunal being in jail; nari-shakti & gold medal could've worked together so well. But NO, that would be something logical and proper, so go ahead with siddhi & Vikram working.
I am not saying siddhi acts as Kunal's puppet but Kunal knowing Thakrals could've given some guidance and Siddhi on the way can improvise. Why no talk about how to go ahead with the case rather than just, "I will get you out & take care of yourself".
I wonder do CVs want to show Kunal is incomplete wihtout Siddhi so she must comes in, well we all know Siddhi completes Kunal so spare us with overdose.
I wonder are CVs really that stupid not to understand this matter or more likely answer is internal politics.

At least past few episodes Kunal is enraged a bit and wish he was out given Rohit is alive. Only CVs know when the nager will really come out and Kunal can kick some ass.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jay_bpm

Hey I partially agree with you. It is so that Kunal gives up on things when they come on to him. If it was on Siddhi, nothing would stop him. It is not because Kunal as a character just likes to give up, no it's related to his emotional side he hardly exposes.


About 6 yeras back, it just wasn't because of Richa. He tried different things but Thakral ruined them all. What followed was rejection after that. Kunal lost status in society and career, but also his family. Raj had stopped talking to him. I understand disappointment, but everyone did blame Kunal directly wihtout understanding his situation. Only Anand & Seema still respected Kunal but for him being an ethical and right person. They also in a way had doubt on his abilities. So he went to Richa as support and she really rejected all of him. She rejected what defined him. SO that served as last nail. From here on, Kunal felt no one really accepts him the way he is. Everyone wants some change, be it his family or loved ones. And that is hwy he felt like he loser. people don't accept him the way he is so it means he's not good enough of individual, so why bother.

In rape case Kunal didn't give up right away. He was looking for a lawyer, helped Siddhi at every step. He gave up when it came down to Siddhi. He felt his case would harm Siddhi and that was it for him. He no longer cared what happens to him but couldn't bare even thought something may happen to Siddhi.

I agree with this case. In court room Kunal tried to counter arguments; but later it seemed he gave up all along. That was the issue I had. It was not like Kunal. Yes Kunal doesn't care much when it comes to him; but this is not Kunal I know.

So I would say Kunal stops fighting when it comes down to Siddhi's safety. In Nisha-Rohit case Kunal tried to find CD till last minute. He sent his assistant to look for it.

Siddhi too doesn't care much when it comes down to her. Yes but she too is willing to go any extent if it comes to Kunal.
About Kunal only listening to Siddhi; well ti makes sense. No one really accepted Kunal the way Siddhi did. Everyone else kind of tolerated some parts of Kunal's characteristics, while siddhi actually embraced it all. That is why Siddhi's words have more impact on Kunal.
So personally I wouldn't say Kunal just gives up easily; in this case they made it appear so which hurts me lot. Just my POV.

Jay, I think I said the same thing in my post, more or less.. I said he gives up when his life is on the line and DOESN"T give up when Siddhi is in danger.. I think we both are saying the same thing. He gives up.. may be 'easily' is the wrong word but he does give up at every crucial stage.. so far, except may be Nisha's case and also Shilpa's marriage(both instances his life was not in danger) I haven't seen him fighting till the end😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: d.padmini

I agree Kunal always gives up at crucial stages and then its left to Sidhi to finish it up..
In rape case , agree with Jay ,Kunal helped Sidhi till the end and also agree that but for him, Sidhi would not have even got the chance to fight the case , let alone winning it..
during that time in some post chitra had mentioned..which I competetly agree with...
Kunal gave up 5 years ago , because he had nothing left, his love had betrayed him, left him and he was a loner, had no zest , neither a reason nor the will to fight, which was fair enough...but during the rape case Sidhi was with, by that time he was already in love with her and wanted to be with her , so instead of giving up he should have continued fighting.he had reason to carry the fight..Ok he was scared for her safety but she is more in danger if he is not around.. which is a big enough reason to fight and not give up,
even in this case, he tried his best , no doubt , and Thakaral used all his experience and money etc but now he had not one but two reason to fight , Sidhi and his unborn child..so instead of giving up, he should have been the one thinking on how to come out and plan his next move sitting in the jail..he still can fight the case, he is not barred so why give up ...I think this is something which he should learn... not to give up...fight until you succeed..

Exactly Padmini.. he has more reasons to fight now but why doesn't he? In Jail means you don't have to think of ways to get out of there? That is why I say may be cvs characterized him in this way and siddhi needs to fill in for him at the end and of course credit goes to her because she completes what he starts😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shehnaz.K

Hima there z only 1 ans ac 2 me that creatives want to show kunal chopra in that particular way-else there were innumerable gates open where his parichay could b portrayed beautifully. I wnder if they undrstnd what is meant by a person's parichay :-(


Exactly what I wanted to say Shehnaz.. cvs portrayed him that way.😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: hima2012


Yes it is true. He doesn't are much for his life, but that was ok when he was alone. Now his life is not just his life. Siddhi is affected more than anyone if anything happens to Kunal. I give him rape case as it came down to either his life or siddhi's. but here that is not the case so showing his giving up is not consistent even with his care for Siddhi. He gave up for no reason what so ever.😡

I wouldn't say he gave up on every crucial stage, but yes here I do not see Kunal at all. This is some other person. Monday was good as I saw some will to fight. But onyl CVs know where that may go😡

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