Deserves to be slapped? Role of mass media again!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I read through annika20's very interesting thread on Role of cinema & mass media too! - violence. I recently read something on another forum pertaining to a similar subject and I am taking the liberty to post it here with the permission of the thread starter . It is from the Parichay - nayee zindagi ke sapno ka forum. The thread starter has stated that physical violence of any sort is always inexcusable (I concur with this) Shockingly there are many who feel that since the person slapped is a villain and has done many evil things, she DESERVED the slap! These people also feel that the protagonist behaved in the right manner and if he not slapped that woman they would have been disappointed.
My question is not whether Kunal was right in slapping Richa or not. My question is, what is it that makes a person think that another human DESERVES to be slapped or beaten or abused and what role does TV have to play in reinforcing such opinions?


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks Leena for bringing this up in this forum aswell.
First of all since you have linked it to annika's post- see the response from the viewers.
Most of the viewers of that show were pleased with the slap. Hence it proved my point to her that media is showing what people wants to see.

Now that does not mean i support the action of the lead. Violence in any form is not acceptable whether it is done by male,, female or to the kid. (My response to the original thread will concur to what i have said so am not repeating it here)

Now big question- role of media. Media should be the part of your life not the life and there has to be a happy balance in life with all other actiivities as well.

Fari- once again i am glad that you brought this post.👏 👏 👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The same issue was brought up in the diya aur baati hum forum too. Because it was the villainess with a long history of villainy to her name that got slapped, it was cheered by many. Domestic violence,unfortunately, seems to be woven into the fabric of mindsets that people forget that 2 wrongs do not make a right.

It is sad that the show in which Aamir khan appeared to promote satyamev jayate is showing this behaviour as acceptable by default... I dont think the issue or moral question even entered the minds of the creatives when they showed that slap and portrayed it as the "natural" response to the situation


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Posted: 13 years ago
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This is my first post on India forums.

I watch many of the shows between 9-11 on weekdays & notice many instances where violence & many other wrong doings are passed off in the name of fiction. That is the reason why they carry the disclaimer before the show. The trouble is that in their interviews, many of these cvs, producers etc say that their shows are a slice of life & based on real life. Meenaxi from Diya Aur Baati Hum herself said in some interview that the CVs pick instances from the society that they live in to incorporate into the story. Of course, we all know that these things happen but when they are shown in popular shows, they get magnified out of proportion & find there way back in society in very twisted ways. So instead of helping to control these evils, these shows end up advertising them.

Leena has brought up a very thought provoking question here, that it is not important to judge what the men did in these shows is right or wrong, the more important question is should the audience be cheering these men for lifting their hand on a woman ?

I read Fariyals post on the Parichay forum & I tend to agree with her when she says that as soon as we start excusing violence in the name of provocation or instinct we allow it to become a means to an end. The ramifications can only be detrimental on the more susceptible among the audience.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I am reading words "Physical Abuse" ??? A slap from Kunal to Richa should not be regarded as physical abuse but a Kunal way to discipline Richa
Canada ka isiliye diwaala nikal gaya hai... Cops are busy in domestic violence cases and are not paying attention to murderers, robbers and scammers...



W*F

this kind of attitude really makes me sad.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nirvanlove

I am reading words "Physical Abuse" ??? A slap from Kunal to Richa should not be regarded as physical abuse but a Kunal way to discipline Richa
Canada ka isiliye diwaala nikal gaya hai... Cops are busy in domestic violence cases and are not paying attention to murderers, robbers and scammers...



W*F

this kind of attitude really makes me sad.



I agree, it is very troubling to come across such opinions but like Aamir said during the female foeticide episode, it is not always the uneducated who are responsible for these acts. Education has little to do with it, it is like he said, peoples SOCH that needs to change. Attitudes like these are in a way responsible for many instances of abuse that female prisoners face at the hands of the jail staff. Unless brough to light it is explained away as disciplinary action. Where does one draw a line?

@Bhavi1972, I read some of your interactions with members on annika's thread and on principle I agree with you but how of it is in our control? media bombards you with images from all sides. it is not only movies and tv or computer, it is in every facet of life.
Take a simple taxi ride, from point A to B. Unless you keep your eyes and ears shut, you will see all the titillating hoardings advertising everything from cookies to comdoms. The radio will probably be blaring chikni chameli or a similar new chart topper, the cabbie will most likely run a red light, chances are that he will talk on the phone while driving, open the car door to spit paan and loudly curse the other motorists. How much of this can you avoid? At some level the common man imbibes some of this even on a subconscious level and before he realizes it, it becomes part of him/her. When this same man goes home and watches a principled lawyer hit a woman, why would he consider it wrong?


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wow...I am reading things on that forum...I am amazed at a lot of people's attitudes.

Of course the whole "where do you draw the line" is an issue of contention...so let's not go there for now.

I read a lot of posts saying "she deserved it"...this reminded me of the videos they showed in the DV episode...asking men if they slap their wives and if so, why. They all basically said the same thing, "she deserved it"...and what's the definition...what is the line between deserving and undeserving?

In the DV episode, we heard stories where the wife took a minute longer to open the door...and she took a beating...to the husband, she deserved it.

This type of conditioning is just not good for us...I just pray that most of these girls will be able to differentiate reel from real when they get married...and if god forbid, some do face a hint of DV...they speak out and not think that "they deserved it"
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bewafa

Wow...I am reading things on that forum...I am amazed at a lot of people's attitudes.


Of course the whole "where do you draw the line" is an issue of contention...so let's not go there for now.

I read a lot of posts saying "she deserved it"...this reminded me of the videos they showed in the DV episode...asking men if they slap their wives and if so, why. They all basically said the same thing, "she deserved it"...and what's the definition...what is the line between deserving and undeserving?

In the DV episode, we heard stories where the wife took a minute longer to open the door...and she took a beating...to the husband, she deserved it.

This type of conditioning is just not good for us...I just pray that most of these girls will be able to differentiate reel from real when they get married...and if god forbid, some do face a hint of DV...they speak out and not think that "they deserved it"



@Bold, that is exactly the reason why I brought Fariyals thread here.
So many people feel that it is ok to give in to provocation & rage like Kunal did. Where does that leave the aam aadmi? If it is right for a gold medalist lawyer, why should it be wrong for the newspaper man or the autowala?
It has become a vicious circle, TV supposedly mimics life, but life sadly is reinforcing what is aired on TV.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks, Leena for the Pm & for bringing this to the right forum.

Leena, the question you posed on whether TV reinforces peoples opinions, you answered beautifully yourself. You said, "It has become a vicious circle, TV supposedly mimics life, but life sadly is reinforcing what is aired on TV".
This cycle can only be broken on an individual level...It's up to each one of us to break this vicious cycle & that can only happen with the awakening of reason.
Change can only come about, when more people decide to raise their voice against a wrong, be it on TV, when people
take up a stand, when people realize that life can only be experienced to the fullest when one can feel & share & try to alleviate anothers pain & is not merely a fence sitter, a mute spectator occupying space on this crowded planet.

It is heartening to know that there are many who feel the way I do & as one member said on my thread...there is hope, so long as
for each of those that sides with the wrong doers, there is one like us👍🏼😃


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Guys, came across this quote in my study...it made so much sense!

"media isn't actually that great at challenging or changing our points of view, it's good at reinforcing our existing points of view. Where we do actually come across conflicting information we are more than likely to disregard it"


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