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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: newbie20000

I am not a regular viewer of this show but have watched it on and off. Some of you guys write beautifully and your thoughts, comments and expressions are awesome. I have yet to watch today's show but after reading some of the forum topics I was so tempted to pen down my thoughts and provide my two cents'.

Show itself ' I still can't understand why this show is called "pavitra rishta" ' Doesn't pavitra mean "pure" and here we are'.witnessing a rishta that's based on manipulations, lies, conspiracies, and a useless plot that doesn't justify the title. Sometimes I wonder why in the world do we even watch this show and get so worked up over these baseless and spineless characters. I guess it's a love-hate relationship between the show and the viewers J.

CVs/Ekta ' What have you been smokin lately, can I have some please? If you are running short of script writers and ideas, there are a lot of them in this forum that can be leveraged. Please feel free to do so'.viewers will get much better content that's entertaining and not idiotic and senseless. If you have nothing better to convey please wrap up the show on a high note.

Archana ' The worst character I have witnessed in real/reel life. Learn to live with some dignity. You have to earn respect; you don't get it on a silver platter. Instead of hanging out at home (God knows what she actually does at work), begging and shedding tears go and take on a real job. If you didn't feel the need to keep in touch with your kids and husband in the last 18 yrs why now? Even couples that get divorce fight hard for the custody and that shows how much they love the kids (that Manav told you not to get in touch is just a lame "excuse").

Arjun ' You have conveyed your feelings to Puri and your dad'.move on with your life personally and professionally. If you don't luv Ovi, break off the engagement but please DON'T beg in front of Purvi always. You don't have to stoop to that level. Talking to her and making her understand is like talking to a wall. There is a saying ' if you love something/someone let it go free, if it comes back to you it's yours forever, if it doesn't it was never yours to begin with.

Purvi ' Learn to be respectful to others even if you hate him/her. You don't have to yell and scream to get your point across (people are not dumb and deaf). Consider yourself lucky that a guy like Arjun loved you, and still does. If you want to be the sacrificial queen, be it but don't send wrong messages ' if you don't have anything to do with Arjun now, don't sit and shed tears just like your mom. Go get another job (out of mind, out of sight), just b/c you didn't have to work hard to find "true love", you might not ever learn to value it.

Manav ' Stop being a mama's boy. You have a big heart but somewhere along the way, you lost the charisma and charm that you used to have earlier, instead we see a Manav that's a puppet in everyone else' hand (mom and kids). Your brain is rusty b/c it has not been used for a long time now'it's about time you get off your butt and take a look around of what's going on. Learn to make some hard decisions in life instead of being a cry-baby always.

Thanks for reading :-)!

Newbie, excellent excellent post. Loved your analysis of every character. So true!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very very good post newbie...sums it all up perfectly
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well said newbie..
Purvi ' Consider yourself lucky that a guy like Arjun loved you, and still does... just b/c you didn't have to work hard to find "true love", you might not ever learn to value it.
Again----
I still can't understand why this show is called "pavitra rishta" ' Doesn't pavitra mean "pure" and here we are'.witnessing a rishta that's based on manipulations, lies, conspiracies, and a useless plot that doesn't justify the title.
Totally agree with u..
CVs...Arjun/Purvi are not in the same generation as Archana/Manav. Plz adjust the storyline according to Gen Y for Arjun/Purvi. Gen Y doesnt care about parents decision on their marriage(may be 50% still do care in India), they take that responsibility in their hand. Do you think your storyline will fit that generation.. I dont think so.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well, detailed analysis.. some of your thinking may not be agreed with my opinion. These are entirely my personal thoughts.

In case of Arjun, to make his lady understand is not an acting of begging. he has not careful while handling their emotions. he had made promises, he has shown his affection & love towards Purvi and moreover at the same time he has made the same commitment to the different lady. Now, if he really unable to make purvi understand, it's entirely his fault, because he has already gifted a nice thing to Purvi by helping her to witness her sweetheart's engagement.

It's not that easy to keep moving. we may move on actually we have to. but our heart totally remains attached with our past. Arjun may fail to explain his situation to Purvi but he must not forget to give a try. When we love some one, we can do anything for that person..(obviously I am so sure that the other person also loves me)

For any Indian lady, I think when they are helpless..they only can take the help of their tears, and can blame their fate & destiny for what is happening.

Now daily soap like PR, all female characters are blessed with the virtue of tears😆..if not, then we will blame them as selfish, emotionless, arrogant (like Ovi) person.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ newbie - Great post. I get irritated with the characters very often these days, and then I realize that they are all fiction so what is there to get worked up about? But sadly, Pavitra Rishta is an addiction only because of ARVI. You have accurately pegged down these characters.

@Dabulls - I've been thinking why the CVs don't change the name of the show to Apavitra Rishta because that's what the show has been since right before the leap. Everything is apavrita with this show. No sense in dragging it further towards its doom.

Arjun needs to leave Purvi alone and just get away from her. Her behavior was indecent and he definitely deserves a better person. Then after he leaves, maybe she'll realize what a gem of a person he was but then it will be too late. Maybe then she'll work harder to regain him.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks guys! Loved all your comments and perspective….

It would have been so refreshing to see both the characters (Arjun and Purvi) fighting for their luv with the entire world and overcoming life's challenges together.

Sometimes I feel that the actors, the producers, and scriptwriters of this show should be abducted by aliens and dissected and fed to grizzly bears, once the aliens discover they lack functional brains. Well, maybe not, that would be cruel to grizzly bears J.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear salvatore-nina,

About your last para, amen! Arjun is fast beginning to look like the shorn Samson (minus Delilah, alas!) and the best he can and should do is precisely what you have prescribed. Yes, maybe she will work to get him back, or maybe he might find someone who cares for him more and takes him less for granted.

You might have read both my posts in Arjun-Purvi RIP? ; if I have to watch him any more mooning around like a sick puppy, it will be just too much. Yesterday was a relief, no Arjun and no Hai Rabba in the background, though we did have Purvi looking determinedly and ostentatiously gloomy for a good part of the episode.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

@ newbie - Great post. I get irritated with the characters very often these days, and then I realize that they are all fiction so what is there to get worked up about? But sadly, Pavitra Rishta is an addiction only because of ARVI. You have accurately pegged down these characters.


@Dabulls - I've been thinking why the CVs don't change the name of the show to Apavitra Rishta because that's what the show has been since right before the leap. Everything is apavrita with this show. No sense in dragging it further towards its doom.

Arjun needs to leave Purvi alone and just get away from her. Her behavior was indecent and he definitely deserves a better person. Then after he leaves, maybe she'll realize what a gem of a person he was but then it will be too late. Maybe then she'll work harder to regain him.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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your post i s really nice n straight forward.
Pavitra Rishta is all about the true bond that two people truly in love share. but in serial nothing as such is shown
and i have a question for Ekta. what does true love mean?
according to me true love means- loving someone so much that their happiness is all that means the most, it means that if we love someone truly who doesn't return that love we let them go and sacrifice but if the feeling is mutual true lovers fight the whole world and discard the word sacrifice, and true love is always pavitra
BUT IN PR, true love means sacrifice ur love for ur mother, sis, father, etc. and give as much pain you can give to your first love your first feeling. and this makes your love shallow .
SO EKTA what does the name of your serial mean or is there a double meaning behind the name which we audience cant see?
stop showing sacrifice as a by product of pavitra rishta coz it ain't😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

@ newbie - Great post. I get irritated with the characters very often these days, and then I realize that they are all fiction so what is there to get worked up about? But sadly, Pavitra Rishta is an addiction only because of ARVI. You have accurately pegged down these characters.

My Addiction to PR was originally ArMan..But soon enough in initial marriage only it became so ridiculous...I supported their divorce the first time around..😳 Than one day I realized that there is no PR between ArMan but it is between Sulo-Archana as they were the inseperable tag team...marriage was between mother-daughter and not husband-wife..
@Dabulls - I've been thinking why the CVs don't change the name of the show to Apavitra Rishta because that's what the show has been since right before the leap. Everything is apavrita with this show. No sense in dragging it further towards its doom.
You got that right..Nothing abt this show is Pavitra...Someone mentioned the only Pavitra Rishta is between Arjun-Aashna..He is craving for his mother to be around to support-guide-understand his pain and anguish.

Arjun needs to leave Purvi alone and just get away from her. Her behavior was indecent and he definitely deserves a better person. Then after he leaves, maybe she'll realize what a gem of a person he was but then it will be too late. Maybe then she'll work harder to regain him.
Arjun needs to leave Purvi alone and get away from her...let her do her own soul searching and figure out if her love for Arjun is worth breaking up her sister's engagement..May be he also needs to do a little soul searching and understand Ovi's love for him (4 yrs+)..As he feels for Purvi which is only 2 wks old love..Purvi's admission of love to Arjun was 1 day old..So it is not an ongoing for even a month or a yr..Ovi loves him and accepts him for who he is..May be he will understand Ovi's love during this painful time once he breaks Ovi's heart..Because he is in the same situation right now fighting with Purvi for her 1 day's love..
Ovi has known Arjun for long, she accepts him...Arjun has changed for Purvi but has Purvi changed for him or does she accept him for who he is???? Major Q.
I do agree Purvi's anguish abt the pain Arjun-Purvi's love will cause many 😭. Which Arjun should have thought abt before approaching Purvi...Ovi should have been told abt breaking up engagement, Purvi should have been told abt him being engaged to Ovi at one time and than confessing his love for purvi. All clean and everyone on same page so noone feeling he cheated or betrayed...Although it still would be hurtful to someone..😳
We usually dont like our GFs hooking up with our ex...So how can a girl accept or understand ex hooking up with a step sister? This is very complicated as family is involved..Purvi is trying to handle it the best way she knows that is to her defence.
It is not impossible for Arjun to learn to love Ovi by getting over Purvi his first love..Many time people are not married to their first love...It is the process of life..Same for OVI if she does not get to marry Arjun it won't be an end of life...She will also get over her first love and move on...FInd someone who loves her as much as she loves him..
But if Arjun hooks up with either of these 2 sisters it will be painful for both...Ovi won't accept knowing Arjun was in love with Purvi while having a comittment for engagement with her and purvi knowing Arjun's comittment to Ovi for engagement she would not want to break that up either..Sad - sad situation for all.
My 2 cents..Experience and been there done that...By this I am no way against Arjun-Purvi or any couple's love but being DA to be fair to all..😃

Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Dabulls23,

Thank you for this very thoughtful and well analysed post.

I agree with what you say - that "Ovi should have been told abt breaking up engagement, Purvi should have been told abt him being engaged to Ovi at one time and than confessing his love for purvi. All clean and everyone on same page so noone feeling he cheated or betrayed." I suppose Arjun's only defence is that he did not plan to fall in love with Purvi, and that as he had no experience or even understanding of love, he had no idea what he had got himself into before it was too late, and he was in too deep to get out easily, or at all.

His agreeing to marry Ovi seems to have been a quixotic decision taken, as he tells Aashana, to please her and both their families (that scene was exceptionally badly written; to rescue a childhood friend from the unwelcome attentions of another man, you just have to warn him off, you do not need to provide a locus standi as a fiance! But this was of a piece with a lot else in this incoherent serial). So he probably thinks of it as something that can be repudiated without too much of a problem, and in fact when he calls Ovi the morning after the scene with Aashana, he tells her, without any hesitation or any preambles, that he loves someone else.

That is because she was then not face to face with him. Now that he has been unable to do it long distance, and has to look at her while he is telling her this, it is MUCH more difficult. I find Arjun most exasperating and wimpish these days, but but his hesitation in getting to the point quickly with Ovi, much as he wants to do so, is something I can readily understand.

I also agree that if Arjun had got married to Ovi as planned, he would have been quite comfortable with her, as she would have accepted him and adored him as he was, and would not have made any demands on him or tried to change him. But that was not to be, as the deities who preside over the 'script', such as it is, have so decreed. So there is no arguing about that; besides, it that had happened, there would be no more story.

If he were to marry her now, it would be quite different, as he would still be besotted with Purvi and it would be very unfair to any other girl he married, and especially for Ovi, and equally, perhaps more, to Arjun himself.

Now, as you say, it is a mess all the way around, and there are no clean solutions that will not leave all three scarred to some degree or the other. So the CVs are helping things along by making Purvi so shrewish and harsh, and Arjun so weak and ineffective, that we are likely to end up saying "A plague on both your houses!" and stopping caring about what happens to either of them. Which is one way out of the mess (for us, that is).

You have also asked the most pertinent question of all - one that has so far never been raised in this forum - Arjun has changed for Purvi but has Purvi changed for him or does she accept him for who he is???? The simple answer is 'No'. Purvi will not change for anyone. She sees no need to, and since Arjun pampers her so much and puts her on a pedestal, this tendency towards self-righteousness must have been reinforced. It is just like with Archana: we are always told "Wo to galti kar hi nahin sakti", no matter if she fails her husband when he needs her the most, during the chawl demolition episode, or when she hands Soham over to her psychotic sister over-riding Manav's objections.

With Purvi, what is worse is that she cannot find in herself the compassion needed to understand, if not forgive, the failings of others, even if they are those of a person she claims to love. Even if Arjun eventually marries her, Heaven help him if he commits any folly and gets caught!

The one point on which I do not agree with you concerns the comparison between 4 year old, 2 weeks old and a few days old love. The strength of love does not depend on how old it is - after all, not just Romeo but many others have fallen in love at first sight and stayed in love with that person all their lives. And Arjun was never in love with Ovi and now he will never be, whatever happens to his relationship with Purvi.

Shyamala B.Cowsik



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