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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kal El

If person A goes 100 years in the future and kills person B then is he guilty of murder? For him, he has already committed the crime. He experienced it, plotted it and remembers doing it. Yet person B won't be born for many more decades.

It's kind of like that: Sati was the time-traveler. Whatever she did when time-traveling, for her it was her "present" (and now past). For others it is the future.

I want to know from Astrological POV, how to see & calculate such person's Karmas? Want to learn this new aspect they have discovered.🤣
If a person A goes in future & commits a crime then to pay for it he has to be born in future, to be punnished. There is no adjustment in karmas. He time travelled mentally, so mentally he has commited it. Each karma occurs at thought level first, that thought can be from his previous births also, but he pays only when the event occurs. For Sati to pay for her time travelled karma, she has to live upto Treta Yuga. From satyuga she went to Treta Yuga & made some changes in the event. The result will be in Treta yuga only for her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: mnx12

I want to know from Astrological POV, how to see & calculate such person's Karmas? Want to learn this new aspect they have discovered.🤣

If a person A goes in future & commits a crime then to pay for it he has to be born in future, to be punnished. There is no adjustment in karmas. He time travelled mentally, so mentally he has commited it. Each karma occurs at thought level first, that thought can be from his previous births also, but he pays only when the event occurs. For Sati to pay for her time travelled karma, she has to live upto Treta Yuga. From satyuga she went to Treta Yuga & made some changes in the event. The result will be in Treta yuga only for her.



I don't think you understood that example. That person does not have to be born in the future. That would defeat the whole point. He is already present in the future as a time-traveler and has committed the crime.

Sati was physically present in Treta Yug to test Ram. Rather than a DeLorean (like Doc Brown uses) she used mental powers to physically travel to the future. From her and Shiva's perspective she has already made the mistake. Vishnu has to wait until Treta Yug to incarnate as Ram and experience that event. But Sati has already experienced it. For her it is in her past. For others it is in the future. 😆

Edited by Kal El - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't think you understood that example. That person does not have to be born in the future. That would defeat the whole point. He is already present in the future as a time-traveler and has committed the crime.

Sati was physically present in Treta Yug to test Ram. Rather than a DeLorean (like Doc Brown uses) she used mental powers to physically travel to the future. From her and Shiva's perspective she has already made the mistake. Vishnu has to wait until Treta Yug to incarnate as Ram and experience that event. But Sati has already experienced it. For her it is in her past. For others it is in the future. 😆

You haven't understood it. If I accept Sati was punished for that crime, that means in Treta yuga when Parvati tested Ram, Shivji didn't punish her because as Sati he had already done it in the past. This entire thing sounds absurd.
As per your theory if she had to pay for the mistake in present, then Shivji's action after her end doesn't justify at all. Veerbhadra & other destruction that followed shouldn't have happened.
We have the story from various sources making it easy to analyse their past present & future actions.
If only past & present story was awailable then the analysis differes. It is not the mistake Sati has made but it's CV's who has made the big mistake.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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From Ram's perspective, he encounters both Sati and Parvati.🤪
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Posted: 13 years ago
#25
So true Sati never tested Ram it was Parvati who tested Ram so CV have story all wrong and if Shiva know what will happen in the future why didn't he prevent Sati from doing so.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Friends,

why are you so worried about one show's depiction, i.e they have shown mata sati testing ram and then getting punished for that. This version as we know comes form Ram Charit Manas of tulsidas. He is the same one who propagated that Hanuman is a rudravatar.

as we all know if you accept one of the god as supreme, you will accept all others as a sub ordinates of the supreme. so in order for his worship to Shiva to be legitimate he concocted this story and propagated it. Since rama charit manas was written in vernacular tongue and gained immense popularity. The same narration became a main stream version and latter on made its way into even traditional literature like Shiv Puran.

However this is not the case in other parts of India as ram charit manas was only popular in the north. so the moral of the story is since Ram was popular god for tulsidas ji he exploited the niche in shiva sati story to reinforce the superiority of Ram over Shiv ji and Sati ji

these kind of things have been going on since vedic age. this is how rudra who was a minor god in vedic age became popular over Indra who was supreme god in Vedas.

all the contradictions arise because this story is late medieval addition with out any coherency.

Since we are all Shiv and Sati 's devotees( i am assuming) we have no obligation to subscribe to this version. so be happy and cool and just ignore the episodes which caused unrest to you and
just enjoy the show.

regards
Krishna
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnx12

You haven't understood it. If I accept Sati was punished for that crime, that means in Treta yuga when Parvati tested Ram, Shivji didn't punish her because as Sati he had already done it in the past. This entire thing sounds absurd.
As per your theory if she had to pay for the mistake in present, then Shivji's action after her end doesn't justify at all. Veerbhadra & other destruction that followed shouldn't have happened.
We have the story from various sources making it easy to analyse their past present & future actions.
If only past & present story was awailable then the analysis differes. It is not the mistake Sati has made but it's CV's who has made the big mistake.



Of course it's absurd and doesn't quite line up with the other stories (even if one argues that Shiva still loves Sati even though he might be angry with her and reject her - pretty much a K soap type drama eh? 😆). I was just trying to say that when dealing with time-travel you have to change how you look at causality. The time-traveler can be guilty of a crime he committed in the future. How does one punish him? I have no idea.

Originally posted by: akhl

From Ram's perspective, he encounters both Sati and Parvati.🤪



He is truly blessed. 😆
Edited by Kal El - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#28
I guess it is time to erase, deleate these 2 epi., which doesn't make any sense in this so far sensible show. Inspite of showing many variations it made sense till then. I would like to carry on with that memory.

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