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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: akhl

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The story of Sati testing Ram is not there in Valmiki Ramayan but it is there in some other scriptures, such as, Tulsidas Ramcharitmanas, Adhyatm Ramayan, and Shiv Mahapuran.


actually it is...according to the valmiki ramayan, three narrators narrate ram katha to 3 different audiences...one of course is valmiki who is dictating ramayana to ganeshji, the second is mahadev to sati and third is kaag bhushandi to his fellow creatures in some kund...i forget the name.

sati disguises herself as sita and starts walking between ram and laxman...ram who is ahead , and yet knows sati is testing him, pretends not to see her. laxman, sees her and is completely flumoxed. but since he sees that ram hasnt seen her and cant explain her sudden appearance, he imagines her to be some mayavi rakshasi who has assumed the form of sita to mislead them. so he keeps quiet awaiting ram's reaction. sati, seeing no reaction from ram, tries to draw his attention. at which point, ram turns round folds his hands and says pranam mata sati, i am blessed that you have given me darshan...but why have you left mahadev alone at kailash...sati realizes that this god himself and apologizes for her mistake. mahadev who witnesses all this and feels deeply embarassed and saddened at the testing of vishnu by his consort , mentally distances himself from sati out of distress at her behaviour as well as the fact that she has taken the form of sita, who he considers as a mother...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Mere Bhaiyon dhyan se pado

Mata sati aur Daksh satyug mein aaye the aur Shri Ram tretayug mein. Mata Parvati bhi satyug mein aayi thi. to mata sati shri ram ki pariksha kaise le sakte hain. Isliye mata parvati ne Shri Ram ki Pariksha li jab unhon ne Bhagwan Shiv se Shri Ram ka gun gan suna tab unhon ne Shri Ram ki pariksha li ki wo sach mein ek patni wrata hain kyunki us samay raja aur maharajaon ki ek se jada patniyan hoti thi. Aur jo show dikhaya gaya hai wo galat hai kyunki rameshwaram mandir bhagwan ne ravan ko marke banaya tha kyunki ravan to brahman tha to un par brahma hatya ka paap laga tha isliye uss paap se chutkare ke liye unhone Mahadev ki upasna ki aur us jagah jahan shiv ling banaya wo rameshawaram se jana gaya. Show mein to pura ulta hi dikha diya.
Aur jo neelkamal wali baat hai to wo bhi galat hai. Us kahani ka Shri Ram se koi lena dena nahi hai. woh story aap youtube mein search kijiye ki shiva gives sudershan chakra to lord vishnu to apko samajh aa jayega ki Shiv ko Mahadev kyun kaha jata hai. Aur aapni jankari mahadev ke bare shaf karne ke liye aap youtube mein om namah shivaya ke serial dhekhiye aap ko sab samajh aa jayega kyunki wo pura shiv puran aur vishnu puran aur dusri gaathayon par aadharit hai aur pura sahi dhikhaya gaya hai.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: dmg2c


actually it is...according to the valmiki ramayan, three narrators narrate ram katha to 3 different audiences...one of course is valmiki who is dictating ramayana to ganeshji, the second is mahadev to sati and third is kaag bhushandi to his fellow creatures in some kund...i forget the name.sati disguises herself as sita and starts walking between ram and laxman...ram who is ahead , and yet knows sati is testing him, pretends not to see her. laxman, sees her and is completely flumoxed. but since he sees that ram hasnt seen her and cant explain her sudden appearance, he imagines her to be some mayavi rakshasi who has assumed the form of sita to mislead them. so he keeps quiet awaiting ram's reaction. sati, seeing no reaction from ram, tries to draw his attention. at which point, ram turns round folds his hands and says pranam mata sati, i am blessed that you have given me darshan...but why have you left mahadev alone at kailash...sati realizes that this god himself and apologizes for her mistake. mahadev who witnesses all this and feels deeply embarassed and saddened at the testing of vishnu by his consort , mentally distances himself from sati out of distress at her behaviour as well as the fact that she has taken the form of sita, who he considers as a mother...



Are bhai ramayan nahi dekhi usme rameshwaram mandir kab banate hain aur mata sati to satyug mein mar gayi thi to tretayug mein jab ram peda huye to mata sati kahan se aa gayi !!!!?????

Ye jo kitaabein aur puran chaapne wale press hain unhone ne hindu dharm ka majak bana kar rakh diya hai. Sachi kahani ka pata nahi aur kuch bhi chapte rehta hain. Apna dimag ladao aur socho
agar ram aur mata sati ek hi yug mein the to mata ke swemwar mein shri ram kyun nahi aaye !!!!!?????? kyun wo kabil nahi the aur dusri baat tarkasur aur ravan ek saath kese ho sakte hain socho bhala raavan ne tino lokon par vijay prapt kr li thi to tarkasur patal lok ka vijeta aur swarg par bhi hamla kar raha tha think use your minds Ye bahut hi ulta dikha rahe hain. Dusri baat is show dikhaya gaya hai ki mata sati shiv ke yogya nahi thi wo bhi galat hai kyunki Mahadev to jante the ki sati kaise mrit hongi to wo unhe dukh kiase pahuncha sakte the. The show is going completely wrong.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: dmg2c

actually it is...according to the valmiki ramayan, three narrators narrate ram katha to 3 different audiences...one of course is valmiki who is dictating ramayana to ganeshji, the second is mahadev to sati and third is kaag bhushandi to his fellow creatures in some kund...i forget the name.



What you are talking about is there in Tulsidas Ramacharitmanas and not in Valmiki Ramayan.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: puneetrana7


Are bhai ramayan nahi dekhi usme rameshwaram mandir kab banate hain aur mata sati to satyug mein mar gayi thi to tretayug mein jab ram peda huye to mata sati kahan se aa gayi !!!!?????

Ye jo kitaabein aur puran chaapne wale press hain unhone ne hindu dharm ka majak bana kar rakh diya hai. Sachi kahani ka pata nahi aur kuch bhi chapte rehta hain. Apna dimag ladao aur socho
agar ram aur mata sati ek hi yug mein the to mata ke swemwar mein shri ram kyun nahi aaye !!!!!?????? kyun wo kabil nahi the aur dusri baat tarkasur aur ravan ek saath kese ho sakte hain socho bhala raavan ne tino lokon par vijay prapt kr li thi to tarkasur patal lok ka vijeta aur swarg par bhi hamla kar raha tha think use your minds Ye bahut hi ulta dikha rahe hain. Dusri baat is show dikhaya gaya hai ki mata sati shiv ke yogya nahi thi wo bhi galat hai kyunki Mahadev to jante the ki sati kaise mrit hongi to wo unhe dukh kiase pahuncha sakte the. The show is going completely wrong.

This is absolutely true. It is a commen sense till now the concept of paying in present, for the mistake committed in future even by Gods is not mentioned in any of the shastras. One does pay for their mistakes committed in past in his present & future. This entire thing is a big Maya- illusion, falling for it & believing Sati made such amistake is degrading a great character, who is Aadi Shakti. Even if one believes it Shivji says the one whose form you took, I see her as Mata, then why did he marry Sati because Lakshmiji had taken Sati's form once as per the show. Shivji shouldn't have married if Mata has taken his future wife's form. Infact Shivji shuld have been very happy with Daksh that because of him Sati will not come in his life again after the yagya. But his actions were exactly opposite, which clearyly shows Sati never tested RaM. Parvati tested Ram.
CV's have totally lost it here, by giving such dialogues to Shivji.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: mnx12



This is absolutely true. It is a commen sense till now the concept of paying in present, for the mistake committed in future even by Gods is not mentioned in any of the shastras.



When time-travel is involved, causality gets a little complicated. The time-traveler's past and present are not the same as those around him/her. If you go to the future and have some adventures and come back then for you these events have already happened. You recently experienced them. Yet for the people in the future none of it has happened yet. For the time-traveler, no matter what time period she goes to, that is her present (it's happening to her right there and then).

If person A goes 100 years in the future and kills person B then is he guilty of murder? For him, he has already committed the crime. He experienced it, plotted it and remembers doing it. Yet person B won't be born for many more decades.

It's kind of like that: Sati was the time-traveler. Whatever she did when time-traveling, for her it was her "present" (and now past). For others it is the future.

In short: it's time-travel. Don't think too much about it. 🤪

Or as the Tenth Doctor put it: "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff. " 🤣
Edited by Kal El - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: puneetrana7


Mere Bhaiyon dhyan se pado

Mata sati aur Daksh satyug mein aaye the aur Shri Ram tretayug mein. Mata Parvati bhi satyug mein aayi thi. to mata sati shri ram ki pariksha kaise le sakte hain. Isliye mata parvati ne Shri Ram ki Pariksha li jab unhon ne Bhagwan Shiv se Shri Ram ka gun gan suna tab unhon ne Shri Ram ki pariksha li ki wo sach mein ek patni wrata hain kyunki us samay raja aur maharajaon ki ek se jada patniyan hoti thi. Aur jo show dikhaya gaya hai wo galat hai kyunki rameshwaram mandir bhagwan ne ravan ko marke banaya tha kyunki ravan to brahman tha to un par brahma hatya ka paap laga tha isliye uss paap se chutkare ke liye unhone Mahadev ki upasna ki aur us jagah jahan shiv ling banaya wo rameshawaram se jana gaya. Show mein to pura ulta hi dikha diya.
Aur jo neelkamal wali baat hai to wo bhi galat hai. Us kahani ka Shri Ram se koi lena dena nahi hai. woh story aap youtube mein search kijiye ki shiva gives sudershan chakra to lord vishnu to apko samajh aa jayega ki Shiv ko Mahadev kyun kaha jata hai. Aur aapni jankari mahadev ke bare shaf karne ke liye aap youtube mein om namah shivaya ke serial dhekhiye aap ko sab samajh aa jayega kyunki wo pura shiv puran aur vishnu puran aur dusri gaathayon par aadharit hai aur pura sahi dhikhaya gaya hai.

@pink: do u blv in yt n a show more then the Puran?excuse me...Neelkamal k ye story sach hai n agar apko kisi show k upar blv kar ni hai to ye jan lijiye ki ye bohot sari shows main bhi dikhaya gaya hai...Ravan apne aur Ram k final fight se pehle Mata Shakti ki puja kar raha tha taki Mata k ashirwad se use vijay prapt ho..n sri Ram ne bhi puja kia taki unhe vijay prapt ho...tab Mata Parvati ne Sri Ram ki pariksha li thi...agar apko pata nehi to google me dhundiye mill jayega...n koi bhi show pura sach nehi hai..bcz alag alag puarno main alag alag kahani hai..like Shiv puran k anusar Chandra ko shrap Daksh ne diya tha but Ganesh puran k anusar Chandra ko shrap Ganesh ji ne di thi...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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see the time travel theory-however mad and utpatang...somehow in the way choose in a middle road from both the versions😕...they have made Sati and Parvati both meet Ram-super weird-but i guess that way they have covered both the Sati meeting Ram story(from the Tulsidas Ramayan) and the story of Ram/Sita worshiping Parvati(from the Valmiki Ramayan) in the future as wel🤔l...however strange it may be-its done so digest it with a ton of salt🤣...
about Sati being punished for a crime being commited somewhere later(nearly 1000 years) in the future-that was something even i found hard to believe-their justification:-
Mahadev says that for them past present future is the same-hence for Sati Future equals present and hence she deserved to be punished,as a crime committed in the future equals a crime commited in the present(for her since she is Adi Shakti)...
thats a very weird justification but leave it...the cvs must have already forgotten their weird time travel theory...i i guess we should forget it too!😆😉
cheers
shruti

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: deboleena.manna

@pink: do u blv in yt n a show more then the Puran?excuse me...Neelkamal k ye story sach hai n agar apko kisi show k upar blv kar ni hai to ye jan lijiye ki ye bohot sari shows main bhi dikhaya gaya hai...Ravan apne aur Ram k final fight se pehle Mata Shakti ki puja kar raha tha taki Mata k ashirwad se use vijay prapt ho..n sri Ram ne bhi puja kia taki unhe vijay prapt ho...tab Mata Parvati ne Sri Ram ki pariksha li thi...agar apko pata nehi to google me dhundiye mill jayega...n koi bhi show pura sach nehi hai..bcz alag alag puarno main alag alag kahani hai..like Shiv puran k anusar Chandra ko shrap Daksh ne diya tha but Ganesh puran k anusar Chandra ko shrap Ganesh ji ne di thi...


Sahi maine ye nahi kaha ki ravan ne mata ki puja nahi ki thi ya fir shri ram ne dono ne kari hogi lekin neelkamal wali baat maine nahi suni lekin shayad aapki baat sach ho lekin yeh program galat dikha raha hai.

Aur jo aap chand ki baat kar rahe ho to dhyan se pado

Daksh ne usse shaap diya jisse us ki mrityu nischit thi to usse bachne ke liye bhole nath ne unhe apne shish par dharan kiya isliye chand purnima ke baad ghatata jaata hai aur phir puri thara ghatne ke baad phir se purn swaroop mein aa jaata hai.

Shri Ganesh ji ne jo shaap diya tha uska asar sirf ek hi din hota hai aur wo ganesh jayanti ke din ke as pass wale dinon mein hota hai agar aap chan ko us din dekh lein to paap chadta hai kuch anhoni bhi hoti hai bhavishya mein. Yahan jo mere badon ne bataya hai us din ko pathar chouth kehte hain aur kehte hain ki us din chand ko nahi dekhna chahiye ashubh hota hai.

to iska matlab hai ki dono alag alag ghatnayen hai. Apni Soch ko khula kijiye aur google ya phir apne bade ya kisi pandit se puchiye veh aapko jaankari denge.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruti.nil

see the time travel theory-however mad and utpatang...somehow in the way choose in a middle road from both the versions😕...they have made Sati and Parvati both meet Ram-super weird-but i guess that way they have covered both the Sati meeting Ram story(from the Tulsidas Ramayan) and the story of Ram/Sita worshiping Parvati(from the Valmiki Ramayan) in the future as wel🤔l...however strange it may be-its done so digest it with a ton of salt🤣...

about Sati being punished for a crime being commited somewhere later(nearly 1000 years) in the future-that was something even i found hard to believe-their justification:-
Mahadev says that for them past present future is the same-hence for Sati Future equals present and hence she deserved to be punished,as a crime committed in the future equals a crime commited in the present(for her since she is Adi Shakti)...
thats a very weird justification but leave it...the cvs must have already forgotten their weird time travel theory...i i guess we should forget it too!😆😉
cheers
shruti


Bhai bilkul sahi lekin yeh hamare dharm ko tod aur marod rahe hain sirf paise banane ke liye jo sahi nahi hai.

Mujhe ye program isliye sahi laga tha kyunki iski presentation sahi thi inke clothes sahi lage inka set sahi laga aur inka animation bhi sahi laga lekin soul of film and a programme is its story/script agar wo hi galat hoti jayegi to show ko koi nahi dekhega.

Dusri baat programme mein Shiv ki teesri aankh hi nahi hai ??????????

Edited by puneetrana7 - 13 years ago

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