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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

Yes Uttara needs to pay for her sins, but there are other ways of punishing her than forcing her to keep the baby. A fine life we are talking of for the baby if its sole purpose of existence is as a reminder to the mother of her sins.

I don't know why everyone is hellbent on punishing two innocent children in all this mess. Fine, Devyani forced Uttara to keep the baby and stopped the abortion, but who is going to be the biggest sufferer - Tara and the unborn child.

Tara is not only going to have to live with the fact that her father was a good-for-nothing drunkard who used to beat her mother, but also that he pimped her. She is now going to live with a daily reminder of the fact that her mother murdered her father, had an affair with her BIL and now is going to have an illegitimate child. I see a brilliant future on the psychiatrist's couch for Tara. Obviously she is never going to fine love and acceptance in society because of her wonderful lineage. That she can never get married is a given.

The unborn child is still more to be pitied. What is its fault? It is going to grow up without a father's name. It is not going to find love and acceptance even within the family that so vociferously stopped Uttara from the abortion. Obviously, everyone is going t hate the child, from the moment it is born, its mother already does so. Its brother (Adi)already does so, and its sister (Tara) is not exactly going to be overjoyed when she hears the news, is she?

So what exactly was the achievement of this track? Why would the makers be so bold as to handle such difficult subjects as homosexuality, incest, molesting and marital violence,s top short of discussing abortion in a sane manner? And why are we condoning such a stupid act? When it is legally permissible to terminate a pregnancy if there are medical complications which might impact the life of a child, shouldn't the same logic be applied to the social environment around the child too, esp. since the fetus is still only two months old.




@Chitrashi...thanks for sharing your perspective...my like button is behaving up.

Anyway...there are so many ways to look at this. A pure anti-abortion advocate would say that if you had the ability to do the "deed", were not forced in to sex and also have the money to bring up a child...you should not be killing a life. I am not looking at this moralistically. Just because something is possible and permissible legally does not make it the right choice anyway.

When I look at stories, I personally like writers in television shows pushing the envelope. From a story standpoint, if the baby were aborted right now, what next for Uttara's character? She will shed more crocodile tears and that will be it...she will not be forced to face her sins...hers...not Brahma...just hers. If you read my post, I said "keeping the baby, for now'. Uttara has barely thought about what she wants to do. She reacted emotionally to the shock of finding herself pregnant and Adi's harsh words and ran to the nearest hospital..."main is paap ko mithana chahthi hoon". She needs to work through her feelings and emotions. The writers may still have her abort/miscarry the child later...who knows. But to me, I want to see Uttara's character process what she has done and then decide what she wants to do about it. If the writers do go down the path of her choosing to keep the baby, there is a complex dynamic to explore there as well...you pointed that out. No matter what her character ultimately chooses, the process of getting there should be one that will really redeem Uttara to the viewer...since the show is ending in 6 months.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: tvdekha

Yeah she cant live alone in Rohtak but definitely in Delhi/Chandigarh.

If nothing else she can become a school teacher and support herself and the kids.She has her own house.
Uttara needs to suffer like a deep fried Kareyla.She had it too easy so far.She just cant keep committing these big blunders and be forgiven after an episode of crying and hyperventilating.😡



I do not know about Uttara suffering...one could argue that she is suffering now Ritsie. I am holding out a very teeny tiny amount of hope that she will realize her culpability rather than crying and hyperventilating at being betrayed. The only reason she is feeling bad is because Brahma turned out to be the proverbial villain. She turned a blind eye to everything Devyani said...ignored her own daughter's reaction etc. etc. When that realization hits home, she should leave and start over.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Options for UT-
1) Abort the kid.Relieved from the society taunts.Tara doesn't come to know.No worries at all..financially or socially.
2)Carry on with the pregnancy.Hated by society and nephew.All kinds of miseries surround her and her kids.Bullying and what not.


I HATE HER!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tvdekha

Options for UT-

1) Abort the kid.Relieved from the society taunts.Tara doesn't come to know.No worries at all..financially or socially.
2)Carry on with the pregnancy.Hated by society and nephew.All kinds of miseries surround her and her kids.Bullying and what not.


I HATE HER!



😆 ... you and everybody on the forum Ritsie. I am on the fence these days. It is so easy to hate her...her sin is that huge. You know how much I hated the whole affair track. But like her character asked Adi, what should she do now? That question has stayed with me. If somebody really hurt me with something huge, how would they ever be able to fix it? In real life, people rarely forget or truly forgive but claim they can do both...can they really...forgiveness esp. is so hard...is it ever possible? Devyani has apparently forgiven Uttara but it just struck me that from a script/character standpoint, Aditya's journey to forgiving Uttara will be tied to Uttara's realization and her forgiving herself too!
  • Abort...no issues for Uttara...end of her character's plot except to reunite with Tara
  • Keeping the baby for now...deep introspection...hating herself...going crazy...maybe coming out of the other side with a decision she can live with!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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what should Uttara do?

Jaya my response is directed at the fictional character eh😆😆😆 so please don;t feel offended

a) stop asking the ridiculous question - did youa sk the question before you went on the affair? did you ask the question when you instigated the divorce? Did you ask the question when you invited Tara to come and witness the affair? Nahi Na then Shut Up and use those same jelly fish brains to think of the answer

b) stop killing the messenger because you don't like the message - how else was the message supposed to be concretely delivered. You followed irresponsible free sex because you thought you were married (bigamously but that was still acceptable to you) so now give birth to the child thinking that you are still married (using the same delusional logic you used when you had the wild arab sessions)

c) then send this baby too to a safe haven like you did Tara - only difference don't remain her guardian. there are tons of parents waiting to adopt new born. People committed to a family lifestyle rather than Sex in the City. people who believe in bring home the bacon rather than stealing someone else's bacon for a quick chow down

Grow at least the most tiniest bit of conscience in that self serving heart of yours so you that this unborn baby has a chance for a good life not just a branded tshirt flashing your kaands for the rest of its life

Don't like what I am saying Uttara then stop asking for people's opinion because at the end of the day you like beign Clueless in Seattle. Its safe territory
Edited by --Hope-- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Most of it has been said but its obvious Uttara herself doesnt know what she wants. The pregnancy came as shock to her, shes almost two months pregnant, did she have no inkling or thought it was the menopause?

She is just reacting on impulse and what Aditya said to her. Its true she didnt think about anybody or the consequences when she got into the affair.

If she has the abortion then its the easy way out. If she goes ahead with the pregnancy then its a reminder to her and the rest of the family. Even if she starts to redeem herself then it is only for herself, not others. What can she really do make it up to Devyani, nothing.
So Devyani was stuck in a loveless marriage which had nothing but abuse. Uttaras affair with Brahma gave Devyani the push she needed to stand up to Brahma and play him at his own game.

Seeing her today, doesnt look like she is mentally disturbed. Possibly it will kick in later when she starts thinking rationally.


Is Devyani setting herself up for another fall?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Chitrashi

i coudnt agree more with you...you are absolutely spot on...why should the baby suffer in the process to make uttara pay for her sins...what kind of justice is that...people fight for a fetus but nobody cares about what will happen when that baby is born...what is the point of not aborting when you are not going to take care of the baby and not going to love them...and also what about that child who is already in this world tara...what is her fault in all this...she is just an innocent bystander who is going to suffer the most...

tara spent most of her childhood in boarding school, then her dad died then she found out what an evil her dad was, then her mom killed her dad, then the affair and now another sibling from her moms affair...Is it not selfish to make two kids suffer so their mom can pay for her sins...

all these anti abortion people should think of all those children whose parents abandon them...why dont they go fight for them instead of encouraging people to have more unwanted kids...

both tara and the unborn baby are going to suffer and have psychological problems...

the show went through so many bold subjects so they should have handled this one properly too...there are many women who are raped but have to keep the child because they dont want to do a "sin" and then abandon the child or abuse them...

so far in this serial i didnt see uttara as a good mother...so why should a person like her have another child...how about being a good one to the one already there...if brama hadnt turned out to be a bad guy then uttara would have forced tara to accept him as her father whether she likes it or not...fine she didnt think of her sister or anybody during the affair but what about her own child...

now uttara is gonna have even better excuse to hate and neglect the child by saying that he/she remind her of the sin she committed and she never wanted the baby in first place...

uttara should be left alone for a while so she could realize her mistake...not ruin two more lives to punish her because that is not fair to tara and the unborn child...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think we are wrong in assuming that Uttara thought of the abortion only after Adi taunted her. Much before Adi got to know about the pregnancy, Uttara had decided to abort the fetus and announced as much to Brahma.

Secondly Uttara's realization of her mistake came much before Brahma's public exposure, and so did her repentance. When Brahma told her at the eve of the party that he was never going to marry her, she knew that she'd been played for a fool. She lived with the hope that after the divorce he might want her to live with him and thus right the situation. But when she discovered what he had done to Priya, she was ready to murder him even. Only his threat against Tara kept her from acting on her impulses and inclinations.

As much as Priya, Uttara also is a victim of Brahma. Even the law recognizes "false promise of marriage and/or job, promotions etc in exchange of physical intimacy" as r@pe.

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