Radha Rani Radhika

Two weeks back, we had an interesting convo with a lady who was planning a Janmashtami event with her group and wanted clarity if Radha was ever married to Krishna as the group wanted a Radha Krishna marriage to be performed and the Bhagwat katha person explained how the relationship between Krishna and Radha was beyond marriage- that very bond will make that relationship limited.

Thanks for this lovely post.I enjoyed the Radha-Krishna parts.Although Rukmini was his wife,Krishna is always made with Radha at his side-they had true love.And Dev here is KK,Radhika is both his Radha Rani and Rukmini,because they were married from childhood.

Originally posted by: blokes

Two weeks back, we had an interesting convo with a lady who was planning a Janmashtami event with her group and wanted clarity if Radha was ever married to Krishna as the group wanted a Radha Krishna marriage to be performed and the Bhagwat katha person explained how the relationship between Krishna and Radha was beyond marriage- that very bond will make that relationship limited.

That said, while the Bhagwat is silent on that score, later medieval texts do project the eternal "love story" between Radha and Krishna and propagate the mystic of the love story. I have often wondered if it was a by product of the Bhakti Movement that swept across Northern India after the onslaught of the Caliphat armies that believed in destroying the kafirs and who razed down thousands of temples in Northern India, while the temples of the South remained from earlier times.

Historicity apart, in our story of CB, this is a good twist in the tale as our Radev were "married" as children. That marriage was on a special muhurat in time and could not be had for another several hundred years. Hence, the "Gods" witnessed that marriage (along with us "divine" viewers!LOL!). Maybe, Dev would open up his mouth and say that he is already married to Rads! Now, THAT moment I am avidly awaiting. Because, Rads has made it plain and clear to Dev that it will not be HER but HE who will have to tell the world that they are already wedded.

Bharka or not, in the modern context of squeaky clean post-Victorian India, the sensibilities of multiple spouses indeed stretch our social boundaries. While the West (whose laws made polygamy illegal in India) enjoys the freedom of divorce and multiple, serial marriages, in India, we are caught in a crazy corner= neither established in past sociological formulations nor completely adopted western, post-modern sensibilities of civil law. Serials such as these tease our ideas and make us wonder what ifs and how we would want to see society- how would we want to live our lives in the modern day.

Love your post blokes---very thought provoking--

I have never really understood the debate re. if Radha is considered married to Krishna or not. Both Radha and Rukhmini are considered incarnation of Goddess Laxmi...so where is the difference? and why the debate...What is the connection to CB?----to me Radhika was Radha until now---but now she needs to become Rukhmini and be considered Krishna (KK)'s "official wife"...

And as you have said---this twist is necessary to bring out the truth about childhood marriage and it will have to be Dev to accept this in front of the society...Dev needs to be shaken to his core to be able to rise above his "kartavya" to accept his Radha and make her his Rukhmini----

And your last point---are the serials just a source of entertainment or do they really represent the societal norms and do they push the boundaries which these societal norms set----do these serials have the power to change social behavior?...I don't think so...but I am sure, others may feel differently...

Thanks Blokes for your post.

Blokes thnx for the post.Radhika is Radha as well as Rukmini. I feel Dev has to become Lord Krishna & not Lord Ram,since Lord Ram was duty bound & for Lord Krishna it was always fun & frolic. I feel he has to feel the emptiness without Radhika & the fear of losing her then & only then will he accept the child marraige.Even if he doesn't he should remember the sacrifice which she has done for him selflessly & leave the RP title for Radhika & marry her.He has to prove his love for her. Radhika has already proved it,now it's his turn to stand up & speak for her.And I'm sure he'l surely do it.

bloks, i mentioned it few times too..

Originally posted by: radhika5

Love your post blokes---very thought provoking--

I have never really understood the debate re. if Radha is considered married to Krishna or not. Both Radha and Rukhmini are considered incarnation of Goddess Laxmi...so where is the difference? and why the debate...

Originally posted by: NivanaLuvsZeetv

Thanks for this lovely post.I enjoyed the Radha-Krishna parts.Although Rukmini was his wife,Krishna is always made with Radha at his side-they had true love.And Dev here is KK,Radhika is both his Radha Rani and Rukmini,because they were married from childhood.

Just want to sayRadev marrige is divine and no one can break it-It was made in heaven as daadaji said "Ram Milaye Jodi"-I don't want Barkha to marry Dev.

This Barkha-Dev marrige will happen if Dev doesn't accept the marrige when they were kids-which was on a very most auspicious day.Dev should realize he IS married to Radhika since childhood and she is his wife.He should reveal this secret now.And Radhika did not have any physical relationship with Rohan-they should also belive this.

God knows what's in store again for this couple.😒

I think, if we really deconstruct the story of CB, we see more trends of Ram Sita than Krishna and Radha because for the former their jodi was "formal" while for the latter it was leela- "play"- that does not mean it was frivolous kind of play, but the "knowledge" that they were one soul and it did not matter how "society" looked upon their "union"- further a sexual union was never even defined- it was beyond mortal ideology of "marriage", legalities etc.

Originally posted by: radhika5

Love your post blokes---very thought provoking--

I have never really understood the debate re. if Radha is considered married to Krishna or not. Both Radha and Rukhmini are considered incarnation of Goddess Laxmi...so where is the difference? and why the debate...What is the connection to CB?----to me Radhika was Radha until now---but now she needs to become Rukhmini and be considered Krishna (KK)'s "official wife"...

And as you have said---this twist is necessary to bring out the truth about childhood marriage and it will have to be Dev to accept this in front of the society...Dev needs to be shaken to his core to be able to rise above his "kartavya" to accept his Radha and make her his Rukhmini----

And your last point---are the serials just a source of entertainment or do they really represent the societal norms and do they push the boundaries which these societal norms set----do these serials have the power to change social behavior?...I don't think so...but I am sure, others may feel differently...

Radhika5- there is no "debate" here- Radha was never "married" to Krishna- that ends it right there. Now, it again depends on how you "define" marriage. All references and allusions to Radha-Krishna pertain to one common ground- theirs was a "union" of souls and had absolutely no mortal value with regards to relationships.

Originally posted by: misti73

Thanks Blokes for your post.

Personally I don't like to compare the characterisation of any of the characters in CB with any hustorical or mythological character. The reason being that all the characters that are in the mythological stories have got depth and are constant and the characters in this show are not. Here the characters, specially that of the leads ping pong and change according to the whims and the fancies of the makers as per the demand of TRP. So that is why it is not possible for me to compare the two and this is just my POV.

Now coming to Radharani and Rukmani with respect to Radhika, for me she is both with a slight difference. Radhika is like Radha Rani to the society but because of the childhood marriage she is also Rukmani, but this fact is hidden from the society. Dev has a very strong sense of duty towards his family which has been fed to him since he was a child and recently they have also shown him developing a sense of guilt. Now guilt and duty are two very strong emotions that can influence a person to take some decisions which might not be the right ones. The only way Dev can overcome these two emotions is for him to reach rock bottom,and to realise that if he does not do anything about it then he will loose someone very important in his life.So all this might be leading to the childhood wedding coming out or even if it does not come Dev refusing to get married and stepping back from the RP post. Basically he needs a kick on his backside to wake up.

As for regarding these shows bringing in change , I don't think that any of the current shows running on TV are capable of doing that. For a show to bring in any change it has to project the belief and ideals of the author or writer. In Indian TV industy, the shows are ruled not by beliefs but by finance generated by TRP. That is why for me it is very difficult for these shows to change societal behaviour. Infact the makers will themselves not venture in this path. Anyway again its my POV and others might differ.

Dear Misti- I agree- I do not believe that Radhika is Radha- she is more a devotee of Krishna as to Dev he is no Krishna either- they are too "attached" to have the "lightness" of Krishna or the playfulness of him. That said, do refer to my previous response.