It All Ends: The Age of Harry Potter

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well, apart from me I know there are other DMers like Ajnu, POH & Dia who love Harry Potter. Who knows maybe some more. In just a week the final Harry Potter movie will hit screens worldwide and the journey will all be over (or maybe paused for the time being). So I thought it is appropriate that we have a good discussion on Harry Potter at this time.

Its time to discuss our journey's how we got into Potter, the ups and downs of the journey.

We can debate on what made Harry Potter such a phenomenon? What made Harry Potter better than several other teen fantasy fiction that are published in plenty?

Finally we can speculate on the future of Harry Potter. How long will the effect last? Will Rowling join the ranks of other greats like C.S Lewis and J.R.R Tolkien or does she cater to a much more juvenile reading culture? Would Harry Potter have been as successful back in their times?

And of course plenty of tangents we can go on...

So lets get started and see where we go.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I won't lie, I shed a few tears after watching the premiere online yesterday. Watching Emma Watson and J.K. Rowling cry during their speeches was really something.

Some Harry Potter related memories that I will never forget:

-Senior year of high school: I applied to Harvard, and I was invited for an interview. During the interview, the Harvard alumni asked me what my favorite book was - I answered with Pride and Prejudice (which wasn't a complete lie because I love that book as well), but it wasn't the total truth either. Half way during a discussion on Austen's novel, I stopped and said you-know-what, as juvenile as this sounds, I think Harry Potter is and always will be my absolute favorite series in the world. My interviewer laughed, and she said that she agrees. And we spent a large part of the interview discussing Harry Potter - the intricate plot, the summaries, the characters, and the fact that Deathly Hallows was about to release soon. 😆

-I still haven't forgiven one of my friends who read the sixth book before me, so when we saw each other she screamed "DUMBLEDORE DIED". Possibly one of the worst things a friend can do.

-The day Deathly Hallows released: My cousins were visiting (and I was seeing them after several years). Smack during the middle of their visit the book was releasing. I had pre-ordered the book from Amazon, and it was sitting on our doorstep the following morning. One of my cousins ran to the store and bought a copy as well. Four of us. Two books. Let's just leave it at the fact that our parents were NOT happy. Our moms took the two books and hid them and told us to enjoy our vacation together since they were leaving soon. Too bad their hiding spots weren't good enough. And too bad for us - our brothers are much more quicker and faster at finding things. I still remember the day they left. Their flight was late, and I stayed up all night and read the book. When my mom woke up the next day, I was laying on the couch with the book closed tightly clutched in my hands, close to tears. She asked me what happened, and I remember saying ... "it's over." I can't help but feel the same way again today.

Confessions:
I don't ever cry while reading books, but this series makes me cry. I still reread Order of the Phoenix and bawl when Sirius dies. I cry my heart out when Dumbledore dies. I cry when Dobby dies. When Fred dies. It's silly, but it's true.

*biggg girly sigh*
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think the Harry Potter effect is going to last a long, long time. I started reading the series first, I forced my brother to read the books (and he was instantly hooked), then I forced my little sister to read them as soon as she was old enough (at the age of 10, she was done with the whole series as well. smart cookie, that one.) And I can guarantee you that if and when I have kids, I will force them to read the books as well. Nothing makes me happier than spreading the HP magic into other people's lives (total lamesauce, I know).

Rowling is definitely joining the ranks of people like C.S. Lewis and Tolkien, if she hasn't already. These seven books have created history. The best thing about these books is despite their somewhat juvenile fantasy - they are books for all ages. You can't grow out of loving HP. As you grow older, you read the books with much more scrutiny and discover how much more intricate the plot really is (I hate ending a sentence with a preposition - oh, well.).
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ah one of our companies used to distribute HP books and I always got copies for my nephews and nieces. My nephew used to read the same book a thousand times. Watching HP movies has been great fun for me when we suspend all logic and get involved with the characters. There is plenty of excitement and surprises too. Guess magic and wizardry is close to our hearts.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with Ajnu. My eyes got wet while watching that premiere too. It still hasn't stunk in completely, that this is going to be the end of it all. I always thought, 'there is going to be another book/movie after this', but it's going to be different now. The 7th book was like a blow. This film is going to be like a truckload of bricks.

I started reading the books when I was 12. At first I wasn't interested but as the book progressed I found myself getting completely hooked to the storyline, the characters, everything. I never stopped reading after that. Always bought the books on the very first day of release, watched the films religiously too.

Harry Potter is not just a series of books/movies, it's an entirely different world, it sucks you in and doesn't let go. I think almost all HP fans must have stood on Platform 9 of a railway station and wondered if they should try banging into a pillar 😆 I know I did. I also tried flying on a broom on the roof of my house. I tried to conjure a spell from a random wood stick I picked up from the road...endless memories.

It's going to be hard. I think I'll start crying in the theater. 😔
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Firstly, I can't explain how personal the books have become for me. I know it's just "a work of fiction", in the end, but to me, it has become much more than that. It has become a part of my life. Honestly, a day doesn't pass where I don't think of Harry Potter in some ways, shape or form. And it's not really difficult to see why. Despite being a work of fiction – and a work of fantasy at that, too – the books are filled with problems that we encounter in everyday life. Despite being a work of fantasy where witches, wizards and magic exist, where the laws of physics and nature are often defied, this is one of the most realistic literary works produced ever. You can immerse yourself into the magic world conjured by Jo, but by the time you are done with the series, you come out with a broader view of the world we live in.

A while back, in some thread in the HP forum, a question was asked that how would your life be without Harry Potter, to which I replied simply that, "Imagining a life without Harry Potter is difficult because, frankly, I wouldn't have a life without it at all, would I?" I know it's an exaggeration on my part, but Harry Potter and J. K. Rowling has influenced and shaped my life in so many ways that, I can never thank her enough for it, and imagining a life without it is, indeed, difficult. For one, Harry Potter has sparked my interest in reading and literature; for another matter, the books had helped me cope up with difficult times in my life.

Personally, I feel Jo trumps Tolkien, Lewis and many other authors. She may not be the most accomplished writer around, but as a storyteller – the ability to weave – she surpasses most of them. Probably I'm biased, but I found Jo's writing far more engaging, lively, amusing and witty, while Tokien's was dull, tedious and rather pretentious. Jo's greatest strength as an author lies not in her writing or language or even the plot, but rather in her ability to string together the whole story and tell it in a way that keeps the readers hooked from, beginning to end, and create some of the most engaging and often complex characters in literature. So I do believe that the books will stand the test of time, and eventually become part of classic literature.

But I think what's more fascinating than Harry Potter's journey is the story of the woman behind this wizardry. To those who are unaware of Jo's life, struggle and success, I'd suggest you to watch A Year in Her Life and This Biography of hers from A&E. I'm yet to meet another woman more humble, hard-working, intelligent, creative and inspirational than her. In my opinion, she deserves every bit of success and acclaim that comes her way. She faced hardships, struggled, worked hard, and look where it brought her today.

Now this is a rather embarrassing confession to make as a dude, but I did cry in various parts of the series – and they are not just limited to death scene or scenes involving losses and devastations. Even ordinary things like Mrs. Weasley saying "He [Harry] is as good as [her son] or seeing the Boggarts take the shape of each members of her family, Neville pocketing the chewing gum wrapper into his pocket instead of throwing it away that his mother gave him, Luna saying she saw her mother dying when she was nine, the trio laughing over a joke, a simple but meaningful dialogue of Dumbledore's etc can easily make me teary-eyed. This is rather shocking of me because I am not a big crier in real life. Rowling said something similar in Oprah's interview: "…then there came a point, I cried, as I've only ever cried once before in my life, and that was when my mother died. It was uncontrollable, and I'm not a big crier…". Seventeen years she had spent on imagining, creating and writing this saga. My association with HP and its fandom over the net and real life is only about four years old…I can only imagine how it must have been for her.

To those who have never read any of the books, I suggest you to pick the first one and at least give it a shot. The books are much more than what appears on the surface. It is a universally enjoyable series that is also deep, educational, symbolic, etc. Give it a shot – if you are disappointed, by all means, stop with it. But at least taste the phenomenon until it's too late.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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First of all my sympathies with all u HP fans🤔
I have not read any of the HP books...I don't know why?...i am an avid reader ...but I just couldn't brace myself to read a book about wizards and wizardry...I am more into twilight...but I like watching the HP movies...
But I know what it is to be a HP fan...I have one at home...my son owns all the books.and must have read them over and over again...we used to get them on the first day it self...I remember waiting in a line outside Barnes and Nobles in the middle of the night...I remember during one of the releases we were in India in 2007...my husband had a fever and yet he had to at 5 in the morning to get that HP book...
I wonder if Rowling did leave some loose ends in the last book and if there would be another one coming out in a few years at the fans' demand...
I remember after reading one of the books my son was very sad and he told me that one of the major character's died...I am guessing from ur posts that it must have been Dumbeldore...
But anyways I do think that this really marks the end of an era and we truly had HP kids like my son and so many of u...who have the HP characters as a part of ur lives...it makes me sad too that its ending...I don't think that I have ever seen people of all ages go crazy over any series as this one...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I've been nearing the end of my latest HP marathon. Finishing Deathly Hallows soon... just in time. 😆

(Note: spoilers ahead for those who haven't read the books)

My journey with Harry Potter began back in 2000 when an Internet friend of mine told me that she loved the new book titled "Goblet Of Fire", and how cool the story was. At that time, I wasn't aware that it was part of a series, and just purchased it for cheap from a small roadside stall (I still have it - it has the original mistake of having James's impression come out before Lily's during the Priori Incantatem sequence 😛 ). Fortunately this was the last of the books to have a small precap of Harry's story in the opening chapters, but somehow I wasn't too impressed by it and put it aside soon after completing it. I guess it was just bad luck because even today, it's my least favourite entry of the series (though obviously I appreciate it more now, as a full-fledged HP nerd).

My interest was sparked again during the publication of Half-Blood Prince, when one of my friends let loose the infamous spoiler at a tennis practice session, and others were furious about it. I borrowed the remaining titles from my friends and not only did I read all the entries upto date, but I abso-freakin'-lutely LOVED Order Of The Phoenix to death. I read HBP after that and despite having been spoiled, really enjoyed most of the book, and especially the dark memories of Tom Riddle's past. Despite having joined the HP parade a bit late, I enjoyed every moment of speculating what would happen in the final book. Quite a few of my theories turned out to be right. 😆 I was at the bookstall at 5:30 AM on the day of Deathly Hallows' premiere release back in 2007, and read the entire book by 9:15 PM that same day, with only one break in between (I couldn't help myself - Dobby's death was absolutely devastating 😭 ). I even had my meals with my nose buried in the book! 😆

I certainly would put J.K Rowling up there in the fantasy writers' pantheon with Tolkien, C.S Lewis etc. It's remarkable how much detail has been given to almost every character, and how close to real life their depiction has been. Part of the fun speculation about future books came from studying minute, subtle hints about these characters in the preceding entry and trying to judge how they would act, come the next part of the story. Rowling did an exceptional job in weaving this tapestry of characters from Philosopher's Stone to Deathly Hallows, and develop them as seamlessly as you'd watch a sped-up film of a tree growing. However, what sets this series apart is how it's so easy, almost seductively beckoning to identify our own selves with these characters. While a certain amount of this is often seen in fiction, I really and honestly think Rowling takes this to new heights.

No character in the series is 100% good or evil - everybody has shades of grey. Harry himself has as much of a grey shade as anyone else. He feels jealousy and frustration like any other, in OOTP he displays the short temper associated with teenage and takes it out on Ron and Hermione (and even admits to venting his frustration, unprovoked, on Dudley in the first chapter). In DH he manages to successfully Cruciate Amycus, indicating it wasn't exactly "justified anger". What sets him apart is his love, bravery and determination to do what is right rather than what is easy - this is a recurring point in the series that is particularly stressed by Dumbledore, and I can't tell you how much of an impact it has on me. You can notice the growth of his character evenly - he's largely the same from books one to four, but there's a massive difference in the Harry of GoF and the one in OOTP (accelerated by the nightmare of a fight in the graveyard, undoubtedly), and an equally big difference in the Harry of HBP - notice how his perception of who are "cool" changes in the Hogwarts Express scenes of the two books, in the aftermath of the battle at the Ministry.

Even though Voldemort is a clearly heartless and cruel villain, he also has a traumatic and haunting past which show us why he becomes the monster he is (I love how Dumbledore sharply asks "Are you feeling sympathy for Lord Voldemort?" when Harry expresses shock of Merope not using magic for his sake). A beautiful parallel is drawn in the Forest Again chapter in Deathly Hallows (quite possibly one of the most beautiful and emotional pieces I've ever read) - when Harry considers running back to "home", he remembers Hogwarts is his home - "He, Snape, Riddle, the abandoned boys, had all found home here". Here are three boys who all lead traumatic and horrid lives in their childhood, and yet look how different they are, in their adulthood - all because of their choices. I love this rich symbology which is spread throughout the books and way beyond the scope of my post here. Severus Snape's character, for me, is a true triumph in modern literature and I don't think I can ever express my admiration for that fully. I could literally write a thesis for PhD. based on that one topic alone ("was Snape good or evil").

All this let me identify myself with the characters I had never imagined I could. Ranging from jokes at school (chemistry = potions, maths = arithmancy, any unpleasant teacher = Snape/Umbridge 😆 ) to lessons on life from Dumbledore, it is a treasure. I'll admit not everything is perfect - GoF could've been much better, I'm not a fan of the romance stuff in HBP and the epilogue in DH felt far from perfect to me (just my observations). However, to every negative there are like 100 positives. When I am in a tough situation, I think of what Harry, Ron and Hermione went through. I think of Albus Dumbledore and look upto him as a mentor, and remember how he achieved a respectable position like that despite his flaws. I learnt about the power of love, faith and forgiveness. Most importantly, I learnt what is important in the art of storytelling and make a magic castle seem as believable as the table in front of me. I shivered in the frightful scenes, laughed my sides sore at the humour, cheered during the climactic battles and felt every emotion the characters did. I'm a guy and still couldn't control my tears when Dobby died. I truly feel these books cut across the barriers of age, gender, culture and tastes, and appeal to everyone who appreciates even a minute part of what is covered. I certainly feel the Potter magic will live on till as long as these values live on.

And yes, it was touching to see the cast and crew break down at the DH Part II premiere. They devoted 11 years of their life to these films and every one of them seriously deserves a salute. Despite their flaws in scripts, the films are still largely well-made and entertaining, and at the very least they certainly bring Harry's Wondrous World (cue Hedwig's theme) alive. Now I can't wait to see it - it's gonna be one heck of a roller coaster ride! 😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I'haven't watched the last HP Movie... I'm Happy with the memories of the Book (At least I dont want to Tickle with it). It was great reading the book..and the best movie so far was to me 1st and 2nd where it did show what harry potter really is..as character..!! Some situation,I feel Half of the story which was in book was not made in movie...!!!
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For all the true HP fans out there..here's a quote by JK Rowling at the film's premiere..

"No story lives unless someone wants to listen. The stories we love best do live in us forever. So, whether you come back page by page or by the big screen, Hogwarts will always be there to welcome you home"

I almost feel sorry for the future generations because they won't have what we had. They won't get to experience the feeling of being in the magical world of Hogwarts and go through it all. For me, HP was more than a book, more than a film and I know I'll be unsuccessful in describing how much the series means to me. I've never been a huge fan of books but I actually remember reading the HP books really slowly and savouring each and every page because I didn't want it to end.

A group of friends were having a debate and I said that JK Rowling may well chose to stop writing now and end her career on a high because no matter what she does, it will always be compared to HP and I feel nothing will ever quite be as good. However someone argued that it would be a total waste of her talent if she does decide not to write again because she has this amazing ability to create this fantasy world where her readers feel so emotionally attached with each and every character. The way she developed each and every character was amazing. No character was ever just good or bad and maybe that's one of the reasons why I enjoyed the HP series more than any other book I've read.

"We defended the Stone, we found the Chamber, we freed the Prisoner, we were chosen by the Goblet, we fought alongside the Order, we learned from the Prince and we mastered the Hallows. We are the Harry Potter generation!"

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