4th July: The 'woman' in you Gulaal!??...(Kes-Gul)

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Hey all
BEFORE THE EPISODE
So what will happen next... esp in the Kes-Gul equation, which is i think we all know again is going to change
After the hungama which happened after Gulaal leaving the house and also coming back, and what Gulaal now feels and has an extra wall up against herself and so on, what exactly will she make of what Kesar said in the precap we saw on Friday and so on... lets not forget Kesar did go and make a complaint to the panchayant on Gulaal, so i wonder how Gulaal will view this decision by Kesar and what he is trying to say and do... obviously we probably all know where Kesar stands and so on... so its easier understanding him then Gulaal isnt it...
Again like a parrot i will say lol, that its very important for Kesar to see Gulaal's pov and get to know exactly where she is standing today and why, and feel what she does... coz its the only way i see any progress from Kesar at this stage and finally hopefully see the bigger picture in terms, and Gulaal's pov is the actual reality to understand her and everything as such i feel and also towards a better understanding and so on for Kesar
"It's gonna hurt while it heals too."
Today's episode - what an episode, i see new beginnigs in a way, and i mean the bedroom scene convo and the deeyarvatu decision together and what was said in both, somewhere i see a connection between these two, and a link will form...
Like we all said Psychology reserve is what Talli has used, and that too in front of god, even the weather is calling out and so on... this is the truth, look at it and understand it - watch away whatever you have done so far that has somewhat tainted this so far
Jo kuch tu apne saath kar rahi hai, woh ek apradh hai, APRADH (this line sums it up in what we heard and what Gulaal has been doing and does)
The most brilliant scene was the Kes-Gul in the bedroom, the way he comes, knowing full well what he wants to say - knowing full well he will have to get it across no matter what and no matter where she tries to run off to (after a long time i see Kesar touching or rather grabbing Gulaal), or even cut him off now this is the adult Kesar i know - the one with such a depth to his thinking, and saying such simple stuff, and today he did - and to Gulaal and for Gulaal, who she as a woman, who is trying to be or has made herself to be, i did say on friday that kitchen scene with Reva to me said, that Gulaal just doesnt seem to watch such happiness, to ever think of her dreams, her desires, her needs etc, and why she is hellbent on suffocating herself and from the woman that she is and can be... HOPE is the word for Gulaal, and its something that Kesar said, that doesnt she have a hope to smile, to have a support. And today stands a woman who has shield herself away behind walls, that she herself has somewhere gone abit stone-hearted... Kesar i feel will break that wall, today we got some cracks hit by Kesar towards Gulaal.
As i said Gulaal has lived how she has lived for 10 yrs where she feels - well this is how my life is gonna be, the only reason for living and my purpose is serving this family and her Vasant's dreams and promises, and also staying focused on that... and also having the truth about Vasant and D, concealed inside her, one part of her made herself so stoned so it stays buried there so to carry on with her life... Exist, thats all Gulaal has wanted to do is Exist, and not live, well doesnt that just sum up what it means in basic terms of what she has been doing and soon. Gulaal is Gulaal - i see her as a woman, but as Kesar says where is THAT woman
Another thing which was there was when Gulaal lighted the diya, and then Kesar walked in with opening the door, you saw the diya somewhat wavering, and Gulaal went to put her hand around it, and then we see Kesar reflection in Vasant's picture, could it be that Kesar will be the one who will waver Gulaal's devotion towards Vasant one day, esp the devotion she has made herself into and also what i liked about the starting scene was Kesar started the convo of The woman in the inside, is that she forgets what he has told her ILU, and the deeyarvatu, but sees the whol convo as a The woman that is inside herself and what she is doing to herself, and how she has killed or is killing the woman inside her... reminds me of the convo father and daughter had 2 weeks back on what life is in general, today Kesar has talked about the woman in general and an widow...
Big big scene, and maybe also a big hint... on where Gulaal's joruney will be... i will Kesar's journey has started already with this talk in getting who that Gulaal is in front of him today and what he did at the deeyarvatu... and maybe see a growth in him and what he thinks about his future, in what he wants to do with himself...
Deeyarvatu scene, was the what i think we all hoped for, coz i really didnt think deeyarvatu will be broken.. not just like that, as D mentioned Gulaal called the panchayant first time, Kesar put in a complaint, and now Kesar wants to break it etc - and no wonder D and the other board members came up with the conclusion, that this is probably not some game, a shaadi is a big thing, and not to be taken lightly, i however do agree that a time limit was the way to go about it - 3 months is the time giving them to stay together and to think about this decision and to think about each other, i feel these two things D has said, will def come into play... in this 3 months, the decision they have taken and what they actually think of each other and so on... (hint - the bedroom convo earlier on has to play a role here in what Kesar has said to Gulaal)
Can i say i loved the Kesar we got today, now this is the Kesar - the adult Kesar i know and know that can be... he has got his senses back in the sense, his eyes also seem to reflect an sense, and mature thinking... which is what we got, him knowing that his forcing and pressuring wasnt the way to go about it (what i had been saying for so long lol), and also to make any relationship esp a one of hubby/wifey... Kesar said everything right here, simple terms and so on, yep Gulaal is surprised and why not... never did she think she will see this day (or any days that she has got in her whole life, esp the way her life has gone - sad but true) that it took a moment for it to sink and also when D had to call her twice on
Even though Gulaal said what Kesar is saying right, and that she will never seen him a a hubby, we all saw that it pricks Kesar, and we saw an teardrop - hearing it will always be just like that for Kesar, but he knows today where he stands and where she stands, this is the right thing to do and go about it
You got to hand it to Kesar, he did a few times try to interrupt D, to say but we both agree so what is the problem, but couldnt even finish his sentence
Isnt is ironic that today we see Kesar in the kinda position in a way Gulaal was when she was begging to end this deeyarvatu as the last meeting, and last time Kesar looking on, whilst today Gulaal looking on...
I dont know if its just me - but the way the camera angle played the deeyarvatu scene, and seeing them stand opposite each other and so on, esp the one where D was talking to them and so on - do i see one day they will come together as one, not be in opposite each other but beside each other, and also the other scene that made me also think like that was when they walked in together in the house saw MB and walked over to him, and kneeled down - again you think you know this is could be the future, one day seeing Kes-Gul like this with their MB being there together as support to each other and their family
Again we see taunting towards Gulaal more then anything when MB says about the deeyarvatu seeing as he had no idea poor guy always in the dark lol, and yeah like i said they were all in a way throwing digs and taunts at Gulaal, and this is what has been happening since last week, and even Kesar saw it today and somewhat felt it or/and also felt that this deeyarvatu has brought them to this stage and so on...
In this episode, i saw various hints and significant kinda hints
I think i find the walking in together in the house and going over to MB and kneeling down kinda symbolic in some sense
About Gulaal, seriously i think i have said alot of Kesar today in my post, but he deserves it - as for Gulaal, i saw an unbalanced Gulaal today - all the way through... one that listened even she partly didnt want to, but she listened to what Kesar was saying, and it was only when he mentioned Vasant, both knew thats it - No more, but Kesar knew he had said what he wanted and whatever next willl be said at the panchayant... and move on there, even there Gulaal was again caught of guard... coz the onky person who reacted was Poonambha, alot of things must of run through Gulaal and so on, whilst taking in what he said and so on, she was lost a few times and another one was that Gulaal took another round of taunts from JK, Sudha and Raman, and didnt say anything but then again neither did Kesar (i hope one day Kesar speaks up, which i think i know he will) and also the way MB stopped her saying anything more, that hurt Gulaal, she respects him alot, so him cutting her off hurts alot.
As for Revji baapji, in saying who knows what Kesar is gonna do next, but i think Revji baapji like us, got the Kesar back he knows and who stands by his decisions, and so on
Today even though Kesar was making an big decision, and meaning it could cut Gulaal off him and so on, he not once wavered in what he was doing, he was right there and straigth to the point, what was in his heart and mind he said... isnt that the Kesar we all know...
Oh and Talli wasnt just smiling coz the deeyarvatu will break coz Kesar has finally got, what he was doing not just to himself but also to Gulaal and this whole rishta they both stand on and how Gulaal has been and so on... i think even Talli knew that the Kesar is back
Today i do see and so want to believe, that Kes-Gul stance have to change or is changed esp Kesar, even Kesar has got what Gulaal has been doing to herself as a woman, and as a widow and so on, he will and has a better understanding of how to go about this and so on ' and that support he talked about earlier' and progress with himself as well, and as for Gulaal - long journey she will have, esp getting through those walls which i feel cracks have formed by Kesar very much today, her journey will be filled with pain and struggle i think, but she needs Kesar there even if she thinks she doesnt...
Another thing i am holding and hoping for is, how i said how the woman convo and the deeyarvatu convo in what Kesar said and D said, will play and inter-link up
Kesar questioned the woman in Gulaal, who and where is she and what is she doing, and also Kesar finally getting it and how a hubby/wifey relation can be and shouldnt be on and the other thing is i find significant when D said, 3 months they will have to see what this deeyarvatu actually means, in the sense if their decision stays the same , and how they see each other... (i leave the future to you) 😊
PRECAP - Talli glad that Kesar took the decision of breaking the deeyarvatu, and realising her in a way, even if the deeyarvatu stayed as such for now, so in a way he has made his path to get her back now...
Though saying that, i am hoping Kesar doesnt start going full steam ahead in wanting her and so on, he needs to take a step back and so on

One must learn to love, and go through a good deal of suffering to get to it... and the journey is always towards the other soul

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Lennie,
I just repsonded to Nach_Baliye's post along similar lines. I liked today's episode - and I also think that the flickering DIya-Kesar-Vasanth pic was a strong hint...but it can be metaphoriacally interpreted in many different ways. I thought it hinted that eventually Gulaal will realise that in loving kesar (or 'replacing' Vasanth physically), she would not be betraying Vasanth or loving her dead husband any less...I hope the CVs maintain the positive momentum they have gained with today's episode. Also, i liked that Motaba was dissapointed that the two of them wanted to break of the deeyarvattu. His opinion matters a lot to Gulaal and will be one of the prods for her to think..
BTW, great insights as usual...
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Originally posted by: trifolia

Lennie,

I just repsonded to Nach_Baliye's post along similar lines. I liked today's episode - and I also think that the flickering DIya-Kesar-Vasanth pic was a strong hint...but it can be metaphoriacally interpreted in many different ways. I thought it hinted that eventually Gulaal will realise that in loving kesar (or 'replacing' Vasanth physically), she would not be betraying Vasanth or loving her dead husband any less...I hope the CVs maintain the positive momentum they have gained with today's episode. Also, i liked that Motaba was dissapointed that the two of them wanted to break of the deeyarvattu. His opinion matters a lot to Gulaal and will be one of the prods for her to think..
BTW, great insights as usual...

Thanks for replying😊
I so agree that the Diya scene could be interpreted in different ways (which is good)... Kesar has somewhat esp after a long time come into reflection in Vasant's picture, and also like you say and something i said when we had the father and daughter convo, that Gulaal needs to see that moving on with her life, and as you say loving Kesar and moving, doesnt mean Vasant wont be there, he will be - its how you remember and built his memory in you and it doesnt mean any less of your love for him and so on if you do move, but its something Gulaal said that made is real and the reason of her being where she is with Vasant, she just doesnt want to move away from that place where she and her Vasant are together and keeps her away, thats why its gonna be a struggle and pain
MB i feel is disappointed with this whole thing, he was disappointed all those years back when he first heard about it, even told Gulaal to break it off, and another thing MB is disappointed is that no one really tells him that they are taking this decisions, all decisions have been made with MB, and like you say MB's opinions and thought very much count for Gulaal
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Yes Lennie...I totally agre with your points.ā­ļø.Absolutely adored this Kesar who is confident...reasons and yet so vulnerable...The final tear in his eye at the panchayat scene..when Gulaal speaks that she cannot accept Kesar asa her husband...was soo touching..even if he is setting her free yet he is so hurt by Gulal's words...Simply love what you write LenniešŸ‘...I am your big pankha😳...errrFan...Autograph pls😳
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Wow. Agree with you 110%
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lennie, i have only one thing to say.😳

MAHSHA ALLAH!😳

wah wah! dil khush kar diya!😳
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Yes Lennie...I totally agre with your points.ā­ļø.Absolutely adored this Kesar who is confident...reasons and yet so vulnerable...The final tear in his eye at the panchayat scene..when Gulaal speaks that she cannot accept Kesar asa her husband...was soo touching..even if he is setting her free yet he is so hurt by Gulal's words...Simply love what you write LenniešŸ‘...I am your big pankha😳...errrFan...Autograph pls😳

Thanks so much, and thanks for always replying
Mera autograph is my post šŸ˜‰šŸ˜†
No matter how much it hurt, he knew in himself that he was doing the right thing, whatever the decision might be and so on...
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Originally posted by: Gulaalfreak

Wow. Agree with you 110%

Thanks so much 😊
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Originally posted by: sharneil92

lennie, i have only one thing to say.😳


MAHSHA ALLAH!😳

wah wah! dil khush kar diya!😳

Thanks so much Shalu, just saw your postEmbarrassed, same to you and nice name change 😊Embarrassed
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Lennie...I have a final exam tomorrow so won't make this a long one! I liked the episode as well and do see new beginnings and emotions in both Gul and Kes. MB, did make an appearance and he was disappointed but I feel his anger was directed at the fact that Kesar and Gulaal have both made a joke out of calling the panchayat time and time again. Basically both of them have taken personal issues and brought them in front of the village and pretty much embarrassed the family over and over again.

On the bright side, Gulaal and Kesar's look exchanges were priceless. I do feel that Gulaal will be a bit more cooperative knowing that Kes wants to break the DV as well...so in a way she does not have to stay guarded for 3 months. We might even see glimpses of the old Gulaal...and I have been missing her so much! Things have been so tense for the past few episodes and just like Kesar told her...she has literally forgotten to smile. During the MB scene, both Gul and Kes looked like children who were about to be scolded...

Want to write more but should get some sleep...šŸ¤—

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