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Lennie

@Lennie

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Posted: 14 years ago

#11

Nicely said Fivr

Gulaal does need a rock and support for her that she lean on slowly and trust it, thats what i see Kesar ultimately being and should be... when he balances himself out,

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Ganga

@Avatarana09

Dazzler

Posted: 14 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: JZephyr

^^ Ganga - are you trying to poke fun at me like everyone else?! Or were you serious?

sigh - what's so wrong with olive green?! 😳

@Len - you're just awfully nice to say that - I love sitting through discussions on this forum so much, that for the last few days I've takens about 3 hour pre-dinner breaks just to be online at this 😲

@ bintus - Thank you!!!

Arre, no baba. My "chashma" power has been constant. But I am having frequent headaches due to migraine/sinus, etc, etc . It blurs the image when I am in front of the computer screen or when I read the newspaper and have been seriously advised to stay away from comp for a while. So whenever I read your post in green, I select the write up so that I can read it more clearly within the blue background.

Edited by MeySimi - 14 years ago

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without-fathom

@without-fathom

Rocker

Posted: 14 years ago

#13

@Everyone - thanks for all the replies, and for furthering the discussion - unfortunately I'm caught up on a ton of reviews to do by day after and can't stall them anymore - so today is going to be swamped 🥱 But I'm definitely reading all that's going on this thread (and few others) and will get back to rant myself as soon as I can tomorrow.

JZee

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without-fathom

@without-fathom

Rocker

Posted: 14 years ago

#14

@Ganga - dayum! migraines suck bigtime, I know where you're coming from, first hand! I've just sort of grown used to the green and hence - but I appreciate your taking the effort to read my posts anyway! - Maybe youshould take a break from the screen for a couple days though because Migraine can evolve into horrid versions.

(Leaving this post black for you!)

JZee

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TheLastCarnival

@TheLastCarnival

Sparkler

+ 5

Posted: 14 years ago

#15

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Staying home alone on a friday
Flat on the floor looking back
On old love
Or lack thereof
After all the crushes are faded
And all my wishful thinking was wrong
I'm jaded
I hate it

I'm tired of being alone
So hurry up and get here
So tired of being alone
So hurry up and get here

Yeah that's just me taking a peep into 'our-forum-discovered' Gulaal's heart.
*Pallo grins...John Meyer for John Meyer*

*Pallo merrily skipping to her fav 'SUBJECT'- KESAR*

We all loved that li'l heartfelt talk Kesar had with God. Personally I loved it in a "superlative" way.
The confusion, the hurt, the tears (which have become omnipresent in his eyes) was all there!
Every question he hurled at God was firmly tipped with reason. Every query that has nestled in his heart was bared to God.
"Bilkul akela padh gaya hoon...Mujhe samajhne ki koi koshish hi nahi karta"
His words were heart-ripping but a tad bit untrue here! JK is der, for whatever selfish reason she may have, she is still there trying to bridge the ever growing distance between Gulaal and Kesar.

He talks about Gulaal's certain requirements to weigh a pure feeling such as love. He can't figure out why he needs to overcome her "self-designed" weighing scale to prove his love.

Gulaal's measuring device
"Above 500 Kg. = Love
Below 500 Kg = Lust"

His mention of Vasanth Bha was the highlight of the whole conversation. It throws light that he totally understands Gulaal's way of looking at things. It shows his stumbling but definitive step towards reality.
(I want them to focus more on this aspect of understanding that Kesar has got. He too loves Vasanth Bha...but does Gulaal's usage of Vasanth's name as a barrier get to him? Does he feel frustrated, jealous or pressurized to match upto Vasanth's standards?)

His questioning the societal norms and the mechanics of how they work was amazing.
Our brain usually accepts every "rule" out of the societal platter...But no one can give guarantee of the heart.
Brain is after all brain...and heart is after all heart... (Now please dun temme that LIMBIC SYSTEM which is associated with all the necessary feelings and emotions is situated in the brain. I'm well aware of it...and choose to ignore "gross anatomy")

And then...*DHAN-TA-NA*
He lets go...and lets God take over...
They rightly say..."When the world walks out, God walks in" (figuratively. Coz I believe he is always there with us)

In comes tomorrow's precap...Kesar's carelessness or Divine Intervention??? Time shall tell...

JZee...I totally agree on your "Full circle" concept. Its time to sit back watch Gulaal's self-constructed fortress of ice melt. And while a lot good may come out of today's episode...am still stuck on her dialogue.
*Pallo loads her gun*
For Back Up u know!

About Talli..
I know am gonna sound terribly rude but am still frozen in annoyed mode! The less I talk about her, the "happier" I'll be!!!

As I mentioned earlier...Sudha's timely "dragging-away-off-Talli" was kiss-worthy. I wonder how blind has Gulaal turned. Her throat-inflaming claims of caring about Talli all go for a toss when she wants to avoid Kesar. In her race to become immune to Kesar's love she has totally forgotten that this girl had been left shattered in the mandap. She overlooks the fact that by sending Talli to face Kesar she may be subjecting the girl to episodic pain.
(*Pallo chews her gum*
What? U r wondering why am "feeling" for Talli all off a sudden?
*Pallo shrugs it off*
Ain't it obvious?...And I never screamed from any cliff that I am not selfish!)

So Ma'am I think you need to dust your slippers coz soon enuff u'll be needing them!!!😉

*Phew* Am done!

PS- Yeah I love COLORED POSTS!!😆

Edited by livelygal - 14 years ago

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without-fathom

@without-fathom

Rocker

Posted: 14 years ago

#16

@Reemz - Thank you 😳 Although I honestly (And this is not in modesty) think one can write whatever and however when truly motivated - the show gets all that credit. I've always had a thing for simple plots, complex characters - and Gulaal as a show brings it out like no other! We keep going to and fro between the same set of conclusions day after day on this forum - and curiously, it's not tiring. In fact, I was thinking about this same 'full circle' idea we've been talking of here happening in another show, and I'd probably lead a group that rants the CVs have run out of concepts - not here. It never seems to me (Since I started watching) that the CVs of this show don't have at least a near future plan well carved. Even thogh, as Sushant Singh said in an interview - TV shows can never be totally sketched on Indian TV.

Anyway - thanks for your words.

@Fivr - Your rant was absolutely worth reading, and think this is the first time I've seen you on my thread? Thanks for joining! That past, I'm all on your anti-Sudha team! I know everyone loves her for pulling Talli away (Pallo even eww-ed me with reference to kissing 😲 ) But I for one just can't deal with her constant screaming! I swear, Talli and JK vs Sudha - I vote the former in, latter out - yeh, that bad! 😆 Although, despite all the things you point out, I'm not saying Sudha is entirely out of line and wasn't wronged for a second. But I vote JK and Talli in because they are consciously (for whatever intentions of each one) trying to bring GK together. Sudha just managed to do something good - I'm not going to smile at her for that 😳 So yeh. We're settled on the point. You and I shall open our very own exclusive Sudha Hate Club! I can already think of what I want to write in a hate mail to the woman 😆

@ Pallo - no chips for me today?! 🤔 Meyer for a Meyer is always welcome man - he's one of my favorites! I'm pretty much in agreement with all you said - special shout out to Gulaal's measuring meter - haila! 500KG! What does she want to make out of our Kesar?! 😲

In reference to this one line: It throws light that he totally understands Gulaal's way of looking at things.

I have to disagree slightly. I personally think he's coming around much faster than we would expect him too - which is exponentially faster than Gulaal - who's advancement in the field of revelations is currently o the negative side of the scale - but I'm not giving Kesar 10/10 yet. He still has confusions over being wrong in love because he's younger. Which - whoever else may have issues with it - is not Gulaal's real problem. Her real problem is only and all about Vasant. Kesar could have been a decade older than her, for all she cared, and he would still have her stubborn no for an answer. (Of course if he means he's being physically manhandled, and repeatedly told off like a 12 year old still, yeh, that would probably be avoided if he was older). But my point is, he's getting there - everyone is talking about the mandir, but I think his revelation on how Gulaal had to be brought back to this house because it is the only way she can ever be happy, again was another deep understanding. Goes on to explain, that even beneath is lose it phases and frantic tantrums, he wasn't just harping about his love, but her happiness, not just with him, as he desperately wants, but with this house she belongs to! Yet, hes not there yet with completely understanding. He's figured Gulaal is tying herself down with her past, but he hasn't figured why she's continuously misunderstanding him and his feelings - he hasn't figured that she is in fact pulling off a Kesar on him, by posing this shield in between because she knows if she doesn't he will get through in the blinking of an eye! He doesn't understand how his power to reach through to her past, and open up a brand new present and future is scaring her like no tomorrow ... he doesn't understand that even when she's posing to treat him like a kid, his presence around her makes her nervous - not out attraction yet, maybe (or maybe even that without knowing) but out of how overwhelmingly he can affect her when she's fighting him with all her might. He doesn't understand she left the house not because she was mad at him, but because he was beginning to scare her.

Its exactly the way he was - when he wanted to hold himself away from her, and every chance that she made him forget about his hatred and grudges, he would retrospect over and struggle to hold together the shaky walls.

Basically - Kesar is understanding her resistance, even her reasons now - but he still hasn't figured her fear element. He still hasn't figured how when she said she was alone before with Vasant and she's alone now with him - it was because she was a little lost girl, and unlike him, she wasn't at a liberty to expose that side.

Btw - I'm not defending Gulaal. Little lost girl or not - she's turning blinds on the truth, and that is wrong. Period. She's not taking accountability of her own actions and decisions - for which no one but Gulaal was responsible - and that is wrong.

But I am saying, that Kesar still has to figure that last mystery about her fear. He might, tonight - when she takes care of him ☺️

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Vinitha

@Blueberry_07

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 14 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: JZephyr

He asked Talli the same thing. What had he done that was so wrong - hadn't they all seen? He'd tried to stop her. He'd begged and pleaded and gone down on his knees and left no desperate and/or logical stone unturned to keep her, and later to bring her back. But was forcing her the way? He couldn't force her into what he thought was her happiness. But it was, it is! When Kesar said that this house was all that her happiness revolved around, he wasn't wrong. Gulaal could harp all her life about having left her soul behind, about being only physically present - but truth is, when JK told her today, that she had no rishta with the house other than the one she was putting down, she was rudely shocked. She has after all given her life to this house - does that count for nothing? And that is exactly what Kesar wants her to see and accept.

Quoted above, nicely stated Jzee! Esp the bold parts!

This scene of Kesar with Talli was needed! I was happy that he finally told his main reason for wanting Gulaal back in the house. He did it for her happiness and not his happiness, like what everybody else, including Gulaal, thought. Well ok, i mean somewhere along the lines (that period where he did an all nighter at Gulaal's home) did felt like it was for himself, so that he can gain peace knowing that she's with him .. etc..and yes maybe it was... BUT the bottom line is that his happiness has, and will always, lie in her's..and as u've mentioned, Gulaal can deny/say all she want but her happiness has always been in that household, her Vasant's home... Now if only Gulaal had heard this! Coz honestly speaking, this point being put across to Talli is as good as no point being put acrossed at all 🤣 Talli'll come back the next day and ask Kesar "Kesar, do you wanna save you love or loose your love?" 🤣

What he told Talli yst was what i wanted him to tell Revji when he accused him the other day but poor Kesar, him understanding his feelings takes just as long as it took him 10 yrs to realise he's in love with Gulaal. But anyways it's the GROWTH that's important... 😆

Oh boy that's ALOT of "happiness" talks in there 🤣

Tell me why Raman is giving advice related to relationships when he can't even handle his own with Sudha. Sudha's "Kitchen boundaries" is rubbish! She's coming across as more childish than anyone else in that household.

@Bhootni: Exactly!! I feel you feeling for Talli ... 😆 coz i felt the same for her 🤣 Gulaal using Talli as a form of communication to Kesar is frustrating! That excuse that she gave Talli for not giving the food herself was so ... *bangs head on the wall* .. WHEN does Gulaal NOT have any work to do? 🤣

Talli questioning Gulaal to give the food : Smart move

Talli taking in Gulaal's lame excuse: Back to square one; Not so smart. 🤣

Just like how Kesar wasn't aware of a suffering Talli but only worried abt his own love (post the whole marriage stopping business) .. Gulaal is doing the same here! Doesn't she not know that this girl is already hurting from within and even more so with Kesar claiming his love for Gulaal infront of her every other min ... (which i love so much btw.. How innocently he says that he loves Gulaal with Talli sobbing from within😆) I hope at least Talli comes out stronger in this. Her facing her lost love time and time again, shd only maker her stronger and want to move on. I'll be glad if they show that rather then Talli secretly crying in one corner...

Both Gulaal and Kesar are ignorant in their own actions! And this similarity brings me back to Jzee's point :

Originally posted by: JZephyr

He was playing this game not so long ago - standing between harm's way and Gulaal; and maintaining his cold war with her. She's taken her turn now. 🥱 (Sigh these two. One of them has to be losing it, this way or that. In simple English, we call it made in heaven. 😆 )

IMO, what we're going to see in days to come, is just going to be a mirror image of the original Kesar return picture. We should bank on Kesar to penetrate through to Gulaal - because didn't she?

^^ Agreed on the thought above! Excellent comparison! If am not wrong the turning point in the Kesar/Gulaal relationship then was when Gulaal fell sick right? The same could probably happen in Today's episode ... I would love to see them talking out or at least laugh abt smtg. It's been tears.. tears and a river full of tears for soo long ... 😆

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Yikess! Something's up with my quotings 😆😆😆 Sorry Jzee, didn't mean to strip ya off your olive green fonts.. it just became black ... 😆😆😆

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without-fathom

@without-fathom

Rocker

Posted: 14 years ago

#18

^^ @ Berry 🤣 <--- That's all I was doing reading your comment. [except where you told me about stripping my olive green 😳 I feel so de-identified all of a sudden 🤔 ]

😆

Wohoo to you agreeing on tonight being the turning point - and hail to our high hopes!

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surithy

@surithy

Inactive

Posted: 14 years ago

#19

Jzephyr-sorry I don't know your name.

Brilliant wordings and writing. Amazing analysis, unbiased. I am becoming a fan of your writings.

Bang on in the reply to Pallo, very well written, can't agree more.

BTW I have same problem as Ganga-the colour is nice but it is just our vision and migraine, that is one reason I have stoped posting nowdays but couldn't stop myself from reading them tho. You guys made me an addict. Keep rocking.

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without-fathom

@without-fathom

Rocker

Posted: 14 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: surithy
Jzephyr-sorry I don't know your name.

Brilliant wordings and writing. Amazing analysis, unbiased. I am becoming a fan of your writings.

Bang on in the reply to Pallo, very well written, can't agree more.
BTW I have same problem as Ganga-the colour is nice but it is just our vision and migraine, that is one reason I have stoped posting nowdays but couldn't stop myself from reading them tho. You guys made me an addict. Keep rocking.

Thanks Sur! You can call me J, Zee, JZ, JZee or any variation of those 😃

I'm glad you enjoy reading the posts - despite the color :| I suppose I have a reason to make some change, so I will! On a side note, I personally have occasional migraine issues, and hope you will take care of yours.

Again, thanks for dropping by,

JZee ps: black for you- for now!)

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