Grief does not come with a time limit

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Posted: 14 years ago
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A lot of people on this forum have suggested that Gulaal should move on. While I understand the practicality of that advice, it is not always feasible. There is no expiration date for grief and mourning. Yes, human nature is such that we move on, we accept what we cannot control and figure out a way to "deal with" situations. However, noone can determine for another, exactly how long this grief should last. For some it lasts a lifetime, for others it is a matter of days, and everything in between for the rest because every human being is different and has a unique coping mechanism in place.
In the long time that I have been in this world, I have seen couples in love who quickly forget each other and move on after a divorce or death and I have also seen couples who hang on to their feelings forever. For the latter group, it is unthinkable to put anyone in their loved one's place. I have a friend who lost his wife years ago to cancer, exactly 15 months after their wedding. This was 1984 and the friend never re-married. To this day, he hangs on to his memories of his wife, visits her grave, supports her family financially and emotionally, and very much in love with his dead wife. I know many such people who never remarry - some hang on to their children and some remain single and childless forever. We can think and advice all we want to these people but they have reached a level with their love that we may not be able to understand unless we are in their shoes (God forbid).
So, my point is, if the character Gulaal wants to hang on to her Vasant, it should be respected by everyone, including Vasant's brother, who loved him equally. He, of all the people should know Gulaal's relationship with Vasant and understand her.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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agreed agreed agreed
but
not at da cost of smbdy elses happiness
den yu hav 2 bow dwn
yu may not love dat person all yur life bt yu cant do evrything fr yur sake
smtmz yu need to live fr others

i vil explain
had gulaal nt married kesar nobdy wud mind her being single n in love vth her dead husband
den it was her life watevr she wanted
but here situation is different
here she z doing it ruining sm1 s life,
okay she did deeyarvtu fr kesars sake but y she stayed hz wife fr 10 long years
y dint she evr think of going to paanchayat n nullifying dat relation lik she did now
why she performed all those rituals vth kesar aftr he wasbck frm boarding
no no no
noway acceptable
i dnt find ds woman just
shz jst being stubborn n nthing else

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Of course there is no time limit but if you watch the show closely then you would know that time and time again the writers have tried to highlight how 'lonely' Gulaal really is.

No-one here agrees that forcing her to move on with someone else is 'right' but clinging on to the past to the extent that it suppresses her desires is not healthy. How many times have we heard her reply 'What about me?' whenever someone questions her about her happiness. She doesn't even know what she wants in life. It's like it comes as a shock to her when anyone asks about her wish and more often than not its Kesar who asks i.e. he can give her that happiness that a woman deserves.

No matter how much you love a deceased relative, you cannot hold on to them if it ends up killing your happiness. Gulaal is NOT happy living with Vasant's memories, not really.


Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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For the show to move on, Gulaal has to have a life other than waking up early morning, doing household chores, continue with her monologues with Vasant's photo,attending to Talli's hairdo and homework and retire to bed with a goodnight to Vasant's photo again. The show does not carry a meaning if viewers are subjected these routine activities of Gulaal.
We have had scenes and dialogues where she says that she is lonely and all alone. Aaj mei kitni akeli hoon was her statement to Dushyant. When Talli took her out, she did enjoy those few moments so ecstatically. There is definitely a woman in her who wants her share of happiness. It was seen how contended she was when Kesar took care of her. She did enjoy every minute of his companionship when the "love factor" was not there.
She can't have these priveleges of Kesar caring or Talli taking her for an outing if Kesar and Talli are married. Motaba,Pannba and her parents would not accompany her journey in life for long.
If there would be such a catastrophe, JamnaKaki wouldn't let her for one more day in the household. Option for her is to move out of this home and become self sufficient. Go away, find a job and live single all her life. The story is not about such a Gulaal who would break free from her people whom she loves and become a single working woman, thinking only about herself and her deceased partner. It is not the story of a woman who is bound by tradition breaking free and become a self-sufficent independant woman.
Its about Gulaal who is bound to this family, first through Vasant and now through Kesar. It is her journey in life within the boundaries of this house.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^Exactly. From no angle do you see Gulaal as a woman who is complete. She has that 'adhurapan' which has been highlighted for a reason. That emptiness inside her which she chooses to ignore time and time again. Kesar is offering to complete her but she can't allow herself to do that due to so much guilt built within her.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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well yeah...gulaal's grief in understandable, but then, so is kesar's...

grieving for her husband is understandable, however, i do not think that grieving gives her the right to take some one else's happiness...
had she not married kesar, or rather, if she had explained to him at that point itself that she was still his bhabhi and not his wife, maybe kesar would have had a relatively normal childhood and would have been able to find love elsewhere...

however, because she did not make this clear to him, he always thought of her as his wife and was denied the normal childhood he deserved. in this case, i really think kesar has had the worst lot because losing one's childhood is one thing which cannot be made up for...gulaal at least had a childhood and she, however much she might not have wanted it, took kesar's childhood away from him...

so both gulaal and kesar have sufferred miserable for 10 years, kesar more so than gulaal in a way because during his adolescence, when opinions and perceptions are formed as such, he was away from his family, had the burden of thinking about his wife and had lots of questions which no one could help him with...

i feel bad for both, but gulaal has to take some responsibility for kesar...if only she had made it clear to him at that point itself that she was still his bhabhi...but she didn't...so...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Meysimi..lovely reply...so agree with you..Btw where is your Neil's best: post me soo desperately waiting for it😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

@Meysimi..lovely reply...so agree with you..Btw where is your Neil's best: post me soo desperately waiting for it😳

Thanks Piu,
I am so sorry for disappointing you. As usual my Migraine has got the better of me. I would post Neil's best tomorrow morning. I promise. I was wanting to read KRML too. I can hardly see what Im typing. Catch up with you all over weekend though my weekend is over.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree it has no limit, nor does love and nor does life and nor does grief
Vasant is her first love, her everything - she gave herself to him, in so many ways, Vasant is embedded in her, and i have said that one can move on with memories of their dears one, look at the father/daughter chat, and think back on what Gulaal said... by going by what she said my answer was in my post that she can move on in life with Vasant's dreams and memories she can if she wants... moving forward doesnt mean forgeting what place Vasant holds in her life at all, like she says she doesnt want to go anywhere that takes her far away from Vasant and her place (where she has created and lived by)
Today what stands is that she has a marriage, ok she doesnt believe in it as such, she just cant see Kesar as her hubby or see herself as his wife and so on, cant handle his confession - rightly so and its natural but i do believe anyone can move forward and live a life rather then existing... Existing is what Gulaal is doing, and for Gulaal she needs time and space coz of what her past is and what she lost, that was a deep lost (not only that knowing the reason for her lost and who was responsible, it makes a difference not knowing and knowing who took V away from her - let says it was an accident that happened it would make a difference in a way but here it wasnt a accident and this is the pain and truth she has learnt to live with it), and what happened, what her present is and the things just recently happened and her future - time and space is what she needs... and she does need talking to and i mean how her dad was talking to her, you can talk to her about life and so on, but end of the day its up to her, coz in the end all you wish for her is the best... because if you know Gulaal then it has to be her decision and her moving on in herself, not anybody forcing her and so on
Gulaal is not contented fully, we have seen that even though she believe she is, or can be
I am waiting to see when Kesar gets his sense back fully, coz right now i dont think he has fully got it, and try to see why it is hard for her and so on... and why she left and why she said she will never feel that way for him... this way i hope Kesar gets grip and talks to her the things that need talking about and that it is about Vasant mainly as well, the first thing i would of thought
Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i once too made a post about this ..and i used to think the same.. i still do, but gulaal is a tv show, and it is important for a show to keep its audience interested. here the audience is interested in seeing kes-gul.. and yes, there is def no time limit to greif, but the story needs to move on, and gulaal needs to become a little less stubborn for that to happen.

in real life, there is no time limit, but on tv, there has to be 😊

Edited by enchanted. - 14 years ago

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