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Posted: 14 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: nureat01

Curious random question.....how involved is a dialogue writer in the screenplay process I wonder.....it all begins with the story-writer, correct? THEN it is moved to the scripting level.....so isn't the dialogue writer in a sense dependent on whatever the storywriters come up with? Or are all these ppl.....the storywriter, the screenplay writer and dialogue writer all working in conjunction together simultaneously?? It's a collaborative vision?? But then who's babies are the characters to BEGIN with?


*Edit: Also random.....I found it amusing that he was a chemistry teacher before turning to writing as a profession😆



@ red - Aaah no wonder the chemistry quotient is not missing in Tasha 😃! 😆

@ blue - Jayesh Patil is the one who wrote Dutta's character sketch, keeping in mind his own dad. So I guess its got nothing to do with the dialogue writer. Even I would like to know what is the difference, or what is the distinction of "Job Descriptions" of a script writer, dialogue writers, then there are couple of other writers whom maybe am not aware of 🤔. And if there are a TEAM of writers, what is the nature of distribution of work 😕?! Is it that each writer is given to write the dialogues for particular characters, or is it scene based 😕?!




Edited by *dewdrop~pearl* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*



Technically your right Rosa, artists are SUPPOSED to be having a broader horizon and mentality, as compared to normal people or men/women. But you never know, at the end of the day, being human beings and individuals with personal preferences, even they might be influenced to an extent. And as he has mentioned in his blog, writers are just machines, machines dont have emotions, etc, so that shows, even he has his own PERSONAL interests, but doesnt have the chance or choice to concentrate on what HE likes to write, and needs to write WHATEVER he is asked to write.

And regarding his writing for layered characters like Dutta and Kala, now I'm doubtful if he himself has understood their depth 😆! Like, have we EVER been able to understand HOW can a CREATIVE HEAD like PS NOT understand the ESSENCE of LTL, Dutta, Tasha, etc. 😲?! How can HE not see what is clicking the audience about LTL?! Even he was part of LTL for a long time right? So inspite of being so closely connected to the show, more than we audience, if this is what HE has understood, well you never know what each of them thinks 🤔.

Or on 2nd thoughts, what if AD is DELIBERATELY avoiding mentioning LTL or Dutta, so as not to upset PS and certain connected people?! Doesnt it seem that way, or else if he has mentioned Nakusha, how is it possible he hasnt mentioned ANYTHING about DUTTA 😲?! By now LTL and Dutta has become synonymous, Dutta is the SOUL of LTL, wont the writer out of all people know that?! So maybe its a purposeful skip 😕.



Aren't these articles of an older date?

I'll go with what Ksh has said....AD seems to have been creatively more involved with Uttaran, may be he had some role in character and story development....so...! Or may be he's trying to reach out to a larger body of readers....
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Posted: 14 years ago
#43
I've seen this Blog of AD's bt not abt LTL Some really long posts of how he himself wondered how he could think of such hard punishments for Ichcha
Comparing Nakusha and Ichcha Welll............They are poles apart But Interesting !
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Posted: 14 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: divy609

I've seen this Blog of AD's bt not abt LTL Some really long posts of how he himself wondered how he could think of such hard punishments for Ichcha
Comparing Nakusha and Ichcha Welll............They are poles apart But Interesting !



So you're an Ichha fan too, Divya?😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



So you're an Ichha fan too, Divya?😆

😆 Not a Fan I just want that ckt. to be happy and fight for her rights and stop her moun-vrat which she does always ....... Attachment to the show 😆 It still goes on and on and on .......
Wanted Uttaran to end b4 LTL But alas Laagi ended well b4 that
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: divy609

😆 Not a Fan I just want that ckt. to be happy and fight for her rights and stop her moun-vrat which she does always ....... Attachment to the show 😆 It still goes on and on and on .......
Wanted Uttaran to end b4 LTL But alas Laagi ended well b4 that



LOL then maybe it's the same for AD.....attachment to the show that never ends😆......but I do find it surprising how the same audience can like Uttaran as well as LTL.....they couldn't be more poles apart in every sense possible.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01


Uttaran for me is a time-pass show 😆 Only to come here and talk to frnds abt the crap they show I liked it 2 the beginning Basss Then I stopped with Tapasya's antics at the young age and again watched after leap .......There again I've missed some whch wud gimme a head-ache .......If I miss an Uttaran epi I'd never bother to catch it again be it on YT or a repeat
BUT that's nt the case wth LTL ....... LTL makes me think ,analyze .....I started watching from the MS returning scene and haven't missed a single one till 28th of March nd caught with all previous ones on YT I Love to watch LTL I admire Dutta /MR In fact everyone on UT forum know me as a staunch Dutta fan 😆 😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: nureat01



Exactly.....he''ll mention Ichha and uttaran in a post even when the post isn't about them originally....it's about Nakku and LTL😆....but he ends up comparing it to Ichha nevertheless....truly he is QUITE fascinated😆

Ichha is the most bore and useless character possible and the actress playing her toh......God😆😆

Isnt it strange that he is fascinated by Ichcha? Even die hard Uttaran fans cant stand her stupidity. As a character has nothing new to offer. I think leads of other top shows who play 'good' girls like Archana, Akshara have SOME variations. But not Ichcha. Added to that the actress is pretty bad.
But ask any man they would be first to criticize a character like Ichcha and a show like Uttaran. Yet a man is fascinated by Uttaran?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*


@ blue - I have NEVER watched even ONE epi of Uttaran !

Regarding AD's dialogue writing, I know he has some great dialogues to his credit, but as you all have already discussed here, maybe the REAL impact was of MR & other actors, and if you have noticed, many dialogues are simple and sometimes might even seem cleche, so what is it that makes SUCH simple dialogues also beautiful 😲?! Its definitely artists like MR, AG, VR, Mahi who are adding that EXTRA MAGIC to those dialogues!

So in comparison, maybe from his abilities POV, AD must have given more to Uttaran, which wasnt translated the same way on screen (thanks to many actors!), but to LTL the case must have been other way around, whereby his investment might be lower, but its the actors who took his dialogues and the scene to a MUCH HIGHER level!

And the last few months, to be frank, I havent liked many dialogues from his side, or I have felt certain dialogues COULD have been better! Like I just rememmber a few above my head.....Nakku telling Dutta about how "women are more stronger than men" 😕. I wonder what was the need for that dialogue at THAT point?! Dutta was already down, so I dont think a dialogue pointing at his "weakness" should have been mouthed. This dialogue could have been apt at some other situation, like something similar to the situation where DN have the conversation about how Nakku is always calm no matter what happens (when Dutta brings Nakku to his room after a showdown with Ganpath!). So if the situation was a more "normal" one, and Dutta was casually asking Nakku as to from where she gets all this strength, then ya, maybe that dialogue would not have seemed THAT bad there. This is just my POV. Similarly there are many other dialogues like that, though I do agree there were many which were really good too! So I would say, the enhancement of his work has ACTUALLY got a lot to do with the script written, and acting on the part of the actors.

I think in 2011 I didnt like the writing in LTL too. In fact I didnt like writing overall since Ganpati Utsav. Only occasional flashes of brilliance here and there. It was really the actors whether Mishal, Mahhi, Ved Thapar or Aashka who held the show.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



*sigh* LTL's greatest quality is also it's greatest setback in a sense it seems......the very fact that it's so UNIQUE....and AD is part of the team that's made it so unique.....and yet they themselves never had much faith in their product??? SUCH irony *shakes head*......What does it speak for then today that so many of us here spend hours pouring over the wonderful material we've experienced in this show.....What are WE seeing in this? Do they ever wonder?? We are surely not a run of the mill audience since this SHOW isn't run of the mill....so we are obviously not watching it for the usual lameness.....then what is it? Do they EVER wonder? I guess not.....cuz we here are the "few" that don't translate into the numbers that REALLY matter.....some of the numbers that AD himself mentioned in some of his blog entries I guess😆.....ahh what an interesting number game.

I do find it amazing though how they can write SUCH powerful stuff and not feel AS deep a connection to it.....I mean there is such a difference in the way he's written the two shows too.....like reading the beginning lines of the post about Nakku/LTL.....him mentioning how no one in his locality remembers the title of the show even though it's been on air for more than a year....that they only remember it as the Nakusha or Nakusha-Dutta show.....the irony of that.....and the way he again muses out that haunting line from the earliest promos....."Nakusha.....ajeeb nahin lagta yeh naam?"......I guess it applies overall to LTL....."ajeeb nahin lagta yeh show?" KYA hai ismein? Kuch logon ko toh kabhi nahin dikhega😆😆 Ahh I'm babbling now.


I will forever be dumbfounded by Uttaran's popularity.....don't even get me started😆

Regarding Uttaran bagging awards what I have generally seen Trp topper get awards or some favorite critically acclaimed shows. Like in 2008-2009 it was BV all the way critically and Bidaai in terms of popularity. Actors of these shows would walk away with the awards in all functions apart from some actors of the channel on which the award is being telecast. Then it was the turn of Agle Janam critically and Yeh Rishta in terms of popularity. Last year it was turn of SGP to win critical awards and Pavitra Rishta to win popular awards. The Uttaran actors esp Rashmi Desai have been winning too on and off esp last year.
LTL unfortunately remain below the top 5 most of last year and the channel also didnt care to push for it so it lost out in terms of awards. Basically whatever LTL has achieved its on its own merit. Only thing Colors did for the show was let it air on their channel.

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