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Posted: 19 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: pragya0

no one sure has an answer, im immesely disappointed with the way they changes there comments


Well, if there was an answer which everyone can accept, I wud have posted that in first place....
and for the question u raised sreejan, they selected them on the basis of singing...now dont ask me what they had in their mind coz I'm not one of them...they selected what they felt at that time....and then, it was indian ppl who decided whos gonna be their next Indian Idol...and there comes the various factors that they had to have to get max votes...everyone is not a music maestro but the beauty of democarcy is - everyone has a say...and now you can blame those ppl just coz results are not the way you thought of....
my question is for you, when they were bashing sandeep uninterrupted, then where were you guys, I didnt see any of you saying that its too much and it sud not happen atleat at that stage....Anuj's humiliation was more than that.....poor anuj...called by these ppl n showed the way in most humiliated manner....gosh!
I dont know how many of you noticed it but it was Anu crap Malik who ignited the whole issue on Amey's vote out saga...while walking out, he said something pointing toward junta and then ppl showed what is now a nightmare for the II 2 organizers....
well, all's a part of big game and Sonu hugging n yelling while giving trophy to sandy didnt mean anything to me once he said that the song he was performing was out of his reach!! think abt these as well while u question.....once again, titles goes to the one whom ppl wanted badly...but talent knows how to survive under adverse conditions...and karu has that.....
does that make any sense...well, I tried my best but again, i cant gaurantee that it is the answer you were looknig for....
peace
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Posted: 19 years ago
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oh checks bhai stop brroding over sandy's comments form the judges atleast now....that created more than enough sympathy dunu think.....he has won the titile already. sandeep was good as per the standards of indian idol but comparatively to his counterpart ......hehehe IMHO not even close (in singing ofocuse) as somone else mentioned, the other aspects are very subjective. it not like the judges cud neva find a fault with karu, they beat him down for secondary factors like not immitating a legend, feel, passion, minor diction errors. you can't entirely blame the judges for their comments to sandeep, as much as u dun liek to hear this, he wasn't all thaaat. yes they didn't need to b that harsh, things cud hav been put in better fashion in many instances.....but dun u get it, u shud b thankful to them for doing that cuz it got the attention of the sypathy voters. now its not really karu's fault that sandy din get as many good comments but he nevertheless had to pay price for it. as far as the judges turning their back now is concerned, u kno its all an act that they havta put up for the sake of sony and indian idol......they r just finding ways to justify sandeep's victory.
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Posted: 19 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: amritha19

oh checks bhai stop brroding over sandy's comments form the judges atleast now....that created more than enough sympathy dunu think.....he has won the titile already. sandeep was good as per the standards of indian idol but comparatively to his counterpart ......hehehe IMHO not even close (in singing ofocuse) as somone else mentioned, the other aspects are very subjective. it not like the judges cud neva find a fault with karu, they beat him down for secondary factors like not immitating a legend, feel, passion, minor diction errors. you can't entirely blame the judges for their comments to sandeep, as much as u dun liek to hear this, he wasn't all thaaat. yes they didn't need to b that harsh, things cud hav been put in better fashion in many instances.....but dun u get it, u shud b thankful to them for doing that cuz it got the attention of the sypathy voters. now its not really karu's fault that sandy din get as many good comments but he nevertheless had to pay price for it. as far as the judges turning their back now is concerned, u kno its all an act that they havta put up for the sake of sony and indian idol......they r just finding ways to justify sandeep's victory.


tell others if u are sure what u say is the reason why they U-turned ...more than me, these guys are interested to know more...
and as far as ur other comments, I really dont care what judges said to sandy and therz absolutely nothing that karu had to be mentioned in this context...u r just draging him in the discussion..I guess u dont actually need that....
what sandy had n what he lacked, well, we are there n we will see this...just for a second, my quesiton was, were u guys bothered when the same judges were harsh not only on Sandy but on Amey, Anuj and before that ravi....nope....that time, we all were excited just to see our favourite doing great...
and if u look at all my post carefully, which u might have so far in last few days...there is a self realization right from the beginging that Karu, Amey, are more potential than sandy....and i still feel regret not to see Amey in finals...but how long we will keep beating a dead-cow..atleast I cant do this...and i dont know for others.....and when i say this, I dont degrade any of the contestent but its my way of living in present....I'm happy with it n I accept what others feel....

and sympathy votes - well, u cant beat public in democracy - thats a lession...but dont u feel Sony TV did a great job for promoting karu...sorry to bring it back in discussion but over-promotion and over-ratting by sony n judges really backfired...we - the Indian tend to be with dark horse and Diya Mirza clearly declared very early in the show that Sandy is no doubt the drak horse of the race...even when she wasnt that happy with sandy getting appraisal while singing from the judges...many many things come to ma mind n all I want now is not to think...coz it doent make sense now...

I didt say anything when karu was asking votes saying that he's from south...coz it was obvious for him to say what he feel...but did u any time hear anyone saying same for sandy that vote for him as he is from north...when we disscet the things, we should follow a single protocol...thats what I had in ma mind and thats why i love karu - inspite of being hot-favourite thru out the season, he accepted that sandy had greater fan following n he was ready to accept that....when asked why he was so composed even after loosing title after being almost there.....
anyway....we can keep discussing this whole life...I cant buy your arguments and you wud never agree to what I say....so lets keep our spirit high instead of stating those things that we all know but want to listen fro others....
peace
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Posted: 19 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: checks


Well, if there was an answer which everyone can accept, I wud have posted that in first place....
and for the question u raised sreejan, they selected them on the basis of singing...now dont ask me what they had in their mind coz I'm not one of them...they selected what they felt at that time....and then, it was indian ppl who decided whos gonna be their next Indian Idol...and there comes the various factors that they had to have to get max votes...everyone is not a music maestro but the beauty of democarcy is - everyone has a say...and now you can blame those ppl just coz results are not the way you thought of....
my question is for you, when they were bashing sandeep uninterrupted, then where were you guys, I didnt see any of you saying that its too much and it sud not happen atleat at that stage....Anuj's humiliation was more than that.....poor anuj...called by these ppl n showed the way in most humiliated manner....gosh!
I dont know how many of you noticed it but it was Anu crap Malik who ignited the whole issue on Amey's vote out saga...while walking out, he said something pointing toward junta and then ppl showed what is now a nightmare for the II 2 organizers....
well, all's a part of big game and Sonu hugging n yelling while giving trophy to sandy didnt mean anything to me once he said that the song he was performing was out of his reach!! think abt these as well while u question.....once again, titles goes to the one whom ppl wanted badly...but talent knows how to survive under adverse conditions...and karu has that.....
does that make any sense...well, I tried my best but again, i cant gaurantee that it is the answer you were looknig for....
peace


my dear freind if you can read my old messages when i reacted to this you will find i never agreed with what they did .........even though i accept that Amey ouster was shocking and very sad and i still have problem accepting .....i never agreed with their actions ........even though i wanted to see Amey in top 2 i do not blame anuj for that at all ....even sandeep for that matter he didn;t have anything to do with it ..........if at all i blame i blame the producers of the show who made mockery of music ......in the name of music they start these shows ......and i blame judges for their irrational behaviour which went against these contestants .......i agree that this is democracy and many people know nothing about music ......music is worshiped as god where i come from ...and i have problem with show producers and judges ....and its such a sad thing to see that they say outer appearance and smile is what represents us than the real talent ........anyway you can accept sandeep as your idol and be happy about it i am not stoping you or trying to change you in anyway .....😊😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: sreejan


my dear freind if you can read my old messages when i reacted to this you will find i never agreed with what they did .........even though i accept that Amey ouster was shocking and very sad and i still have problem accepting .....i never agreed with their actions ........even though i wanted to see Amey in top 2 i do not blame anuj for that at all ....even sandeep for that matter he didn;t have anything to do with it ..........if at all i blame i blame the producers of the show who made mockery of music ......in the name of music they start these shows ......and i blame judges for their irrational behaviour which went against these contestants .......i agree that this is democracy and many people know nothing about music ......music is worshiped as god where i come from ...and i have problem with show producers and judges ....and its such a sad thing to see that they say outer appearance and smile is what represents us than the real talent ........anyway you can accept sandeep as your idol and be happy about it i am not stoping you or trying to change you in anyway .....😊😊


Thats what I said...we agree to disagree...you, in no capacity can change my mind and same is absoltely true for me....we actually cant change our mind and thats where the disapproval gets birth....anyway, thanx for your nice concerns/comments.....even though we dont agree point to point but we sure know that reality shows are not what music world needs....its mockery for some n game for others and opportunity for many more ...take it as it fits into your image of these show...
good bye
peace
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Posted: 19 years ago
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checks ji this is not a personal fight against sandeep ......don't think that we have a grudge against sandeep ....it is silly to feel that way about a person we really don't know about .......and as far as i have seen he is very gentle human being .......even if karunya was in his place or some ganesh or satish any person in his place i would feel the same .......this is not a personal fight as no one is my close friend .........so many things happened on show that doesn't go well with me ......... 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: sreejan

checks ji this is not a personal fight against sandeep ......don't think that we have a grudge against sandeep ....it is silly to feel that way about a person we really don't know about .......and as far as i have seen he is very gentle human being .......even if karunya was in his place or some ganesh or satish any person in his place i would feel the same .......this is not a personal fight as no one is my close friend .........so many things happened on show that doesn't go well with me ......... 😊


I feel the same sreejan jee....I have nothing against anyone...but when things are to be said, I put them the way I think....and I appreciate open discussion without grudges....and thats what I have been doing all these days....
and sicne I know sandeep personally from his childhood, thats why it hurts when ppl bash nonsense things without knowing him...anyway, thats the cost of becoming public figure..and I accept that from the heart....no issue with anyone...
take care
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Money always speaks! This time too it did. The judges were bought and that's why the change in the stand.

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