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Posted: 14 years ago

Idiots' Tantra Mala

Chamatkar ya Balatkar'idiots ki tantra mala....

We forgot we are Idiots who are supposed to do chamatkar and not balatkaar ...So new improved Tantra Mala includes what is defined as chamakaar and what is defined as balatkaar

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Posted: 14 years ago

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mysterygurl1427

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Posted: 14 years ago

valcano eruption time

10, 9, 8, 7, 6,......

Am i the only that is happy for this separation? Even though i feel it is pretty stupid of Geet to leave him for just sayin what is the truth.

Only a girl with no self respect would allow the man that ruined her life to apply colors on her face. Forgiveness fine, even though i didn't like it...but for the reason Geet gave i went with her....but here applyin colors on Dev and him doin the same was disgusting.....

and the lines that Maan uttered today were totally right.

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--Nargis--

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Posted: 14 years ago

Kabhi socha na tha hum per aise bhi din aanyenge
Apna banana chahenge, per kisi ko bana nahi panyenge
Suna tha ghair toh namak chhidaka hi karte hai zakhamon par
Per pata nahi tha ke kabhi apne bhi itna tadpanyenge!!😭

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The only thing that is crystal clear form today's episode....is that they all have made mistakes, and that they all need to learn from them.

Geet's mistake was her inability to make MAAN listen to her reasoning for forgiveness.....her FORVINESS had nothing to to with DEV AT ALL except that he was the receiving party of it. Her forgiveness....like her entire world revolves only around Maan.....and her decision to forgive was solely based on her need and her want to make a fresh start with Maan.

In her want and need to make MAAN happy and have a happy life with him, she has sacrifices even her core....she has chosen to forgive Dev....the ULTIMATE of all sacrifices.....because she has come to understand that until she breaks free from her past...she cannot have a clean untangled begining with Maan.

The difference here is that Maan has not reached this point at all. And if left to his own vices...he never will...because that is his personality. It has always taken Geet to convince him to change and see and accept things differently.....and so even with this issue...until Geet tells Maan on why she has decided to forgive Dev....Maan will not realize nor will he accept her decision.

Maan was wrong....he should not phrased the words as he did....and hurt the one person for who, he would die. This is his flaw....woh itna JAZBAATI woh jaata hia...ke e looses his grip on his anger...and in anger he says hurtful things. Maan's has the typical SHAKESPEAREAN Hero flaw...one that he he does not control....will lead to is demise...emotionally, mentally and physically.

He should have tried to understand Geet's perspective too.

Hope this made some sense....😕

Edited by --Nargis-- - 14 years ago

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Bibi K-Villa

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Posted: 14 years ago

Sisters😛

Personal flourishes or happiness can be had for little or no money if you are willing to invest passion, preserverence, patience and a fresh perspective.

Be love possessed. Your possessions express your personality. Whispered words of love, bonds of the home and family and a spirit of adventure defines the extraordinary woman. Does this define Geet?

Todays episode:

Geet, as she is leaving the home, the only 2nd home she has loved and grown to become a woman, there is such a defiance on her face. The khandan table has always been a meeting place, a gathering ground, the source of sustenance and nourishment, festivity, safety and satisfaction that Geet has to leave this security once again. I have tears in my eyes for Geet.

Maan had the strength, the courage and confidence of the lion in him, to throw his anger around, for when the lion is hungry it growls and prowls around, so did Maan who was hungering and thirsting for Geet's soft words and love - every word, every action of Geet and Maan took a stand still in time, got misplaced in space, and then the Devil of mischief made his bull's-eye target of them.

But Maan did not stop to look fear of his 'insecurities and jealousies' in the face - he acted under its pressures and the dark moments entered his life.

Geet knew that with the festival of Holi love will change all things, transforming life in countless ways. But first she has to stand the test of these moments. This steadfast love alone will endow her with courage and confidence to move on. No coward's soul is hers.

Dev became the miracle worker for annie and arjun but lost out to Maan. But if he walks on the path of change, many might not notice the changes in the beginning because they're so small, but slowly and surely, if he lives in each season as it passes, breathes the air, drinks its drink, tastes its fruit, and then resigns himself to be loyal to Maan, Maan himself will become convinced. Dev has to prove himself to his brother.

Today there were no tidings of comfort and joy.

Cheers.

Edited by lovetheserial - 14 years ago

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Muniza Riaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

I am holding my tears, I am holding my words, but once episode will telecast I am not sure, how I will react, so just wait and watch...

Kya Maan ke saath humara bhi lava bahar aayega?

Wonderful Title Nags!!!!!

Thanks Shivi for reserving spot for me....

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Episode was simply blast, on serious note loved it...I liked AA scene, how romantic and cute.....Loved Maan's bhai-chi, awesome slap to Dev👏👏.....I cried with Geet, felt her pain as well, but was it new? Maan always says harsh words in anger.....

I think what Maan has said it was too perfect with the scenario..In anger, in insecurity one can react like that, when the person by hisself not sure the reason, can react like that...Most shocking part for him was that she was playing holi with the rapist...

I am totally agree with Maan when one person's blood gets white, they lose the all senses to understand what is right and wrong? Exactly how she can forgive someone like Dev... Kissi ki izzat se khelna ghalti nahin gunah hai, paap hai, aur uss paap ki koi maafi nahin hoti hai....Ghalti ka maukha milta hai, pur paap ki sazza...Maan ne uske khoon ko safaid bola, ganda nahin jo ghar chor kur ja rahi hai...And even the word ghairat he used, he was right, he couldn't expect from Geet that she would forgave just like that, and moreover give him a chance to play holi with her, and even put tikka on him....

She lost her battle the day she lost her baby, same happened with Maan, he also lost the battle which he was only fighting for her....I always says, trust, understanding, respect all have strong connection in 1 relation, and with that communication has strong part as well....1 moment it shows they understand eachother very well, and other moment it seems they never understand eachother...Maybe they understand, but don't wanna accept....

Geet forgave him we accepted, but playing holi, such cheap idea, such a cheap act....Perfectly Maan said she loses her sense, one can't blame....Good Geet go, i am happy that you are leaving, atleast now you get a chance to proof yourself that you have self respect...1 advice to you, please this time don't come back, till you proof that you can live alone as well, and make your life....Seriously i want her to proof this time, cause last time Maan hadn't gave her a chance to lived peacefully and proved herself....

Maan no worries you were not wrong, atleast your anger was justified...But advice to you, in such relations, first better talk to your better half rather go and start accusing...I hope you both learn this time....

Good luck for the new journey....

Sorry guys i am not in mood to write anything much, i am sick as well...I am not angry with Maan at all, so as Geet...How as a woman i would be angry with her, but certain things i didn't liked it even if it's channel call but it shows woman disrespect....Or you can say bohut Mahanta jo insaan nahin kur sakta...

Muniza

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Lavz

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Posted: 14 years ago

Kahin Tho Beete Kal Ki Jadein...
Dil Mein Hi Utar Jaati Hai...
Kahin Jo Dhaage Tute Tho Malaayen Bhikar Jaati Hai...
Koi Dil Mein Jagah Nayi, Baaton Ke Liye Rakhta Hai...
Koi Apni Palko Par Yaadon Ke Diye Rakhta Hai...
Kehne Ko Saath Apane Ek Duniya Chalti Hai ...
Per Chhupke Is Dil Mein Tanhaayi Palti Hai...

Helo Idiots!!

Well well....another controversial episode has moved on eh?…….last tym ven Geet wnt against Maan….we saw da first crack in da forum which was onz tied together…Supportrs of Maan Supporters of Geet n der were sum who supportd Maaneet…..

yet again another similar situation has arrivd only diffnz is here Maan is da main reason fr da MU…..back den it was Geet n her ego……now its Maan n his ego....der we get da closure fr da fight!! and I am happy to see dat Maan n Geet r potryad as just humans unlike da common Telly soaps where da leads r shown as self sacrifcin devtas!!😛

Thank You CVs for givin us such characters who hav all flaws lyk any odr human bein would……👏👏

Maan's POV:

Maan is well known for his anger……n ven angry he wd neva think abt wat he is talkin its human nature to giv in to ur anger……He had been holdin onto dis fr SO long…..he was quiet for long….he let it go fr Geet 's happinz but he is a man who is very insecure n possesv……if he burstd out seein Geet wid Dev its jst normal….I dnt blame him fr da same…….he has provd dat Maan Singh Khurana is just a human n not God!! He is right at his place coz No man wd b hav been able to see his wife wid da person who is da reason fr her pain…..

bt again wateva he said is not sumthin ny woman wd take in….its his mistake dat he questnd her love fr him, her character and her khandhan……he shdnt hav said wateva he said.....he has talkd abt da most sensitv part of her lyf – her family....his mistake is dat he didn't talk n clarify wid Geet….yet again he has allowd his instcts to do da talkin n dnt gv Geet a chance to explain herself! He shdnt hav let his doubt kill his love fr her……he shd hav talkd wid her....

Geets POV:

Geet has decides to move on for a prospruz n happinz filled lyf……bt y did she let go of her pain n agony? So dat she cd see Maan happy……A girl who faught wid everyone be it da society or her own family fr savin her baby…..has frgetn her pain fr da man she loves! She had onz said dat she loves him bt she wd love her baby mor coz motherhood is da feelin she felt befor fallin in love…..if she is forget da pain dat she is goin thru after loosin da most precious thing fr da man she loves hw is she at fault?! She has learnt to frget n forgiv....And if she has to let go of her past she has to forgv n frget wat Dev did to her…….Dat doesn't mean she doesn't love Maan or she has any feelin towards Dev….it simply means she wants a happy lyf widot any dark shadow of her past…..hadnt she frgivn Dev she wd hav to move on wid dat one pain…now she is relevd frm dat past….she has allowd her future to step on her past……she did dis for whom?! For Maan……Y coz she wnts to be his wife n lead a happy lyf lik any odr girl…….If she has forgvn Dev n tried to move on wid lyf leavin behind her hatred n pain fr dat one person who has alwas givn her his support n love How is she at fault?!

Now her only fault is dat she could make Maan understand her POV….she shd hav made him understand her POV….bt it by shoutin,yellin or cryin……its her incapability dat she cdnt handle her husband…..she shdnt run away…she shdnt move out….she shd stay back n make her relationship wrk n make him realize his mistake!!!

Dev – he did wateva he thought was perfect fr dem….he wntd to bring dem closer bt accidently separatd dem…..its true his sheer presnz wd affect der relationship….he wishd fr der happy lyf n succeeded in separatin dem…..He shd hav stayd out off der lyf ven Daadi ma askd him to…bt he wnt on to help her der by spoilin everythin dey had made together!! Its just normal….his plan backfird!!!

Daadi,Annie,Arjun,Romeo,Manishaa r left as spectators……But des r da pple who can get dem bck together…..Now All of dem shd wrk towards getting Maaneet bck together……

Bottom line - Da biggest FLAW in Maaneet relationship Is der lack of communictn wen a problem arrives….i had onz said dat I love Maaneet fr der khamoshi…yes its true bt yet again…it serves good at da tym ven everythings happy n good…bt ven a problem arrives dey HAV To talk!!!

Luv,

Lavzz..

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-honeydew-

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Posted: 14 years ago

Anger does this to you .. but sometimes, anger doesnt justify some of the things you say, cos words once said, cannot be taken aback ...

geet may still forgive him some day since she loves him, but she will never forget the words he uttered, and wad will hurt her the most would be the fact that it was Maan who said those words...

then again, it was very much in character! i applaud the creatives for taking a chance and not playing it safe ... had maan not reacted the way he did today he would not have been maan...

the words, aisa kya jadoo kar dia hai tumne meri biwi pe spoke of his insecurities ...

the lines safed khoon, spoke of his frustration and anger in failing to see how she would forgive someone so easily .. Maan always knew the only reason why Geet hated dev was for abandoning her and the baby, he also knew she wanted revenge for ditching her, but he never forget Dev was the first man she Geet, the woman he loves more than himself gave herself to ..!! this is the same Maan Singh Khurana who, post her first confession to him about the man who cheated her in marriage and abandoned her, didnt turn to her and hug her and said i am there for you, he reacted as humanly as "mujhe toh laga tum sirf meri ho" which was like we had talked about at that point in time, a reaction to her talking about how she had blindly trusted her parents in accepting the first man that came into her life ...

today, Maan is her family, and he has done everything from his side to make sure she has the world... yes he had an option to listen to her when she was about to tell him the truth, but why would he when he didnt want to! thats a choice he had made .. forget whether it was right or wrong ..

Maan also talks to Dev about the family honor, which comes from his birth and the way he has been brought up by his grandmother, he has been taught to say, he is MAAN SINGH KHURANA, seena taan ke .. and when he says this, he is also perhaps pointing towards Dev who is not born or shares the same blood as him ...!! they also might bring the step brother angle if they choose to the man is really spitting fumes and anger !!

Poor Geet, finds herself all by herself ... the one man she had finally learnt to trust and blindly love, had said something that she didnt want to hear. she had chosen to forgive and forget for their sake, but he didnt give her a chance to explain... to geet this was never really maans battle.. i remember distinctly when Maan had asked her if he was to find the man that did this to her, she had refused telling herself it was her battle... and today when she chose to forgive Dev, she knew she was going against wad she had planned for herself, but she gave it up for the sake of love.. and this happens to most of us, when we are very happy, we dont want to think of the bad things that plagued us and ruin what we have... it was right for Geet for the moment, but for all those women who are watching her and expecting something out of her, perhaps she let them down.. but for me, if Geet is happy with what she is doing i am happy .. so tehre goes geet again, totally parayi !! thats why they say, dont rest your happiness in another, they hold the power to play with it ... keep it with yourself ...you are the master of it !! this is the time for Geet handa to realise this looks like !! she may forgive maan just now for breaking her heart by saying all this, jst the way she forgave Dev, but she will never forget wad he did by saying all these things... love impairs you .. love handicaps you, and when Maan realises in a bit that he perhaps went over the top and goes to fetch her back, she will always remember to love him like always, but not to give all of herself the way she did earlier !!

Coming to Dev, i also felt his concerns were valid .. even the indian contitution says no to double jeopardy ... yes this man needs to go to jail once, and he did..i guess the makers though in a flimsy way did try and show dev was ready to go to jail and got out for whatever reasons... the story has taken a turn where he has been shown repentant as well as someone who is wanting to turn over a new leaf... and besides, this is a show, we need twists, turns and dramas ...

thank god they did it subtley. had it been another regular show, they would have shown Geet and Dev caught in a hotel room in a compromising position while someone would have handed over those pictures or an mms to maan...i applaud the makers for keeping it natural and simple, where you can understand and empathise with the plight of each character ....

Annie and Arjun make me wanna watch the episode again and again... sucker for romance that i am ...i totally loved their sweet sequences ...

Hamesha tumko chaaha aur chaaha
Aur chaaha chaaha chaaha
Hamesha tumko chaaha aur chaaha kuch bhi nahin
Tumhe dil ne hai pooja, pooja, pooja
Aur pooja kuch bhi nahin
Na na nahin, na na nahin nahin nahin nahin nahin
Kuch bhi nahin, ho kuch bhi nahin
Oh, kuch bhi nahin

Khushiyon mein bhi chhaayi udaasi
Dard ki chhaaya mein voh lipti
Kehne piya se bas yeh aayi

O preetam, o preetam
Bin tere mere iss jeevan mein
Kuch bhi nahin nahin nahin nahin nahin
Kuch bhi nahin
Hamesha tumko chaaha, aur chaaha chaaha chaaha

Aur chaaha chaaha chaaha
Haan chaaha chaaha chaaha
Bas chaaha chaaha chaaha
Haan chaaha chaaha chaaha
Aur chaaha chaaha chaaha

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@roseinbloom

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Posted: 14 years ago

RIZARB for my Shivz Haan! 😳

Btw .. SMART TITLE! I'm ROFLING! 🤣

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Intense is too small of a word for what happened today.

I blame only this stupid channel for this HIGHLY UNNECESSARY turn of events. Why they felt showing us viewers Deveet playing Holi together and smiling was a good thing or that we'd accept it or be able to digest it -- IS BEYOND ME. That is as far as I'm going with that scene.

I would've been ok with Maan getting this furious with Geet for just forgiving Dev without consulting with him or letting him know. It was totally warranted that he would be angry for he gave the reasons today. He will never accept Dev coming near Geet let alone forgiving him. Maan has his self respect ... Maan has his ghairat. He claims that the Khurana blood has taught him one of many things -- once a sinner .. always a sinner. And a sinner to this degree is not worthy of forgiveness -- especially from the victim themselves!

Geet may have decided to forgive the man .. she felt it was better if he got off her back about wanting to repent and seeking her forgiveness. He kept pestering her so she gave it to him. But the channel lost its marbles and decided to play this stupid move. Well, what can we say? No one and I mean not a single being who watches the show and is loyal to Maaneet would accept this fact -- why did the channel think otherwise? WHAT THE HELL compelled them to make this decision -- I REALLY WONDER. They better give us an answer to the thousand curses / emails / comments we've been giving regarding this last minute decision. Did they think Geet forgiving Dev was not enough for Maan to become what he did today? Because I felt it was enough. Seeing Dev be frank with Geet added to the fuel. So he was bound to do what he did -- showing Geet and Dev playing Holi WAS NOT NECESSARY YOU STUPID PEOPLE!

Maan Singh Khurana -- yes, my respect grows for the man everyday. Why? Because everytime something is fuelling his anger and it revolves around Geet .. he rethinks every possibility beforehand. What did he do before going down? He recollected all his thoughts and they revolved around Dev. Not once did he say it's Geet's fault. He said "Dev must be doing all of this. He is a snake .. he probably has some more disgusting plans and Geet is falling in his trap" I felt in awe of him .. that even after seeing them put colour on each other .. he blamed Dev for it. But then his anger fuelled even more after he saw Dev literally follow Geet and out came the Aag Babula from his room.

The scene that followed was nothing less than intense. Gotta give it to GC/SS for this scene though -- they were brilliant! 👏

Dev's well deserved slap came and he took it. But he doesn't want Maan to blame him for things he's not doing. Yea sure, ok .. you may not have such intentions .. but Maan isn't going to see you troddle around saying you are sorry for what you did .. and start being frank with you without suspecting you. Dev deserves Maan's suspicions on him because the man has proved time and again that he is making the utmost wrong decisions in life. When he did something so "ghinoni" as what he did to Geet -- why would Maan ever trust him again? Every accusation -- whether right or not -- was apt.

(By the way .. you know how Maan said "white blood" .. what does that mean? Like what does it mean when someone says "tumhare jism mein safaid khoon dorta hai" .. I don't understand what it means .. anyone know?)

Geet's reason for trying to leave the house once before was because Maan said words that accused her of something. This time, I can't help but agree because it has some degree of truth in it. Doesn't mean Geet has totally lost her self respect .. but in this aspect she is making it show as if she has. Forgiving is one thing .. but acting familiar with Dev is a huge slap to everything you've fought for before. SEE THIS TOTALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WITH WHAT HAPPENED THE DAY BEFORE! The stupid channel made their decision but it doesn't go with what Geet had said at the farmhouse. She didn't even want Dev touching her then ... and now the next day .. because of this change in script .. they're showing her ok with Dev touching her .. it goes against what she said the day before .. and totally doesn't fit in with her character or what has happened till now -- BARRY, I FEEL FOR YOU!!! They have left us in such a quandry it's so damn frustrating.

Anyways .. I'm still trying to get my head around things..

So this is all for now.

Precap: Why is Daadima not stopping her ?? Did all of them hear everything that went down in the kitchen? Because Daadima should be the first to stop her -- unless Geet has explained what just happened and Daadima feels like they should have some time to think it out?? I don't know .. will wait till tomorrow for that.

I'm trying to forget this Holi scene with Dev and Geet even happened. Stupid channel thinks it can play with our feelings .. and NOT let someone like Barry Dhillon go ahead with his ideas. Barry is the only freaking person left from the original team .. he would have the most knowledge of what is right and wrong in this matter -- and the dude didn't want that scene BUT NO does the channel listen? APPARENTLY NOT. 😡😡😡 STUPID CHANNEL! URGH.

Anyways, I hope people are still flooding their emails and walls to let them know how disgusted we are with what went down and that it goes TOTALLY AGAINST what has happened in this show to date. Believe in Barry you stupid people! He knows what he has written .. and he knows every inch of this plot. His own dialogues won't go out of his mind .. I'm sure he was boggled inside to think they wanted this to happen. Sheesh. I feel like cursing but I'll hold it.

BLAME - THE - CHANNEL.

Edited by Mk.Gh - 14 years ago