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Posted: 14 years ago
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I'm sure this has been repeated in this thread before, but I figured I can put in my two cents too.. At the risk of sounding repetitive though... 😆
I read on the Star Plus website that Pradhan is a college professor/teacher - so I believe that's the "better than aam" aspect of him that you're talking about. While ANY normal person can fight for themselves, he tends to fight for righteous ideals as much as he fights for himself. Whenever he stood against something unfair, it wasn't just because he was being treated unfairly, but because it was an unfair concept in general.
That being said, both times he accepted favors that could be treated at unfair treatments, he did it for his kids. The first time around, he'd been harassed by an angry mob and his son was dragged off in front of him without a hint of what might be happening to him while he was out of sight. Can we imagine the pain, the worry and the horror that was running through Pradhan's mind while Chinnu was "gone"? Any parent, even with the best of ideals, will not not do everything he/she possibly can to make sure his kids are safe. So when he was offered a better spot by the TC, he took it - and I feel it was rightfully his. Taking that better spot wasn't selfish of him because honestly everyone else was so comfortable with "turning the other cheek" even it it was in the unfairest of circumstances. He voiced his discomfort and dislike at the treatment in the train and he got a better spot. I guess the only thing to learn here is, if you see something unfair you should raise your voice against it - that's the only way it will change for the better.
As for the mandir, he's just seen the man who supposedly played a huge part in traumatizing his daughter and making her the silent almost souless being she is today. She walks, talks, eats, breathes but she doesn't live - and THAT in and off itself is a huge ordeal for any parent to bear. That's why when she leaves the mandir, he decides right away to leave with her - he doesn't need blessings from a God that shelters such horrible people, he says - but when she decides she wants to face the horrors of her past and move on, he does not stand in her way. He doesn't like the idea, but he supports her grow-th (I know it's one word but apparently I can't write it as one without it turning into groW*H.. 😕). But that doesn't mean he isn't going to try and make it just a little bit easier for her. Standing in line again and waiting for hours while Priya has a chance to come face to face with her ex and get distraught again? That does not sound appealing to anyone, least of all a parent. So when given the chance to bypass all that he accepted it - and that does not necessarily mean that he thought it was right. It just meant that he thought it was the best thing to do for his children, even if at the moment it wasn't ideally right. *sigh* Parents can go so far and so deep for their kids that to me the fact that Pradhan let go of some of his ideals every time one of his kids was in trouble is actually a very humane quality. 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
#12

I did feel parts of Mr. Pradhan's scenes were out of character...

and i agree with a lot of answers put forth here...

but there is one more thing...

there are a lot of irritated by nature people who have something to dislike in anything... especially how the organizations work!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Fivr-

I'm sure this has been repeated in this thread before, but I figured I can put in my two cents too.. At the risk of sounding repetitive though... 😆

I read on the Star Plus website that Pradhan is a college professor/teacher - so I believe that's the "better than aam" aspect of him that you're talking about. While ANY normal person can fight for themselves, he tends to fight for righteous ideals as much as he fights for himself. Whenever he stood against something unfair, it wasn't just because he was being treated unfairly, but because it was an unfair concept in general.
That being said, both times he accepted favors that could be treated at unfair treatments, he did it for his kids. The first time around, he'd been harassed by an angry mob and his son was dragged off in front of him without a hint of what might be happening to him while he was out of sight. Can we imagine the pain, the worry and the horror that was running through Pradhan's mind while Chinnu was "gone"? Any parent, even with the best of ideals, will not not do everything he/she possibly can to make sure his kids are safe. So when he was offered a better spot by the TC, he took it - and I feel it was rightfully his. Taking that better spot wasn't selfish of him because honestly everyone else was so comfortable with "turning the other cheek" even it it was in the unfairest of circumstances. He voiced his discomfort and dislike at the treatment in the train and he got a better spot. I guess the only thing to learn here is, if you see something unfair you should raise your voice against it - that's the only way it will change for the better.
As for the mandir, he's just seen the man who supposedly played a huge part in traumatizing his daughter and making her the silent almost souless being she is today. She walks, talks, eats, breathes but she doesn't live - and THAT in and off itself is a huge ordeal for any parent to bear. That's why when she leaves the mandir, he decides right away to leave with her - he doesn't need blessings from a God that shelters such horrible people, he says - but when she decides she wants to face the horrors of her past and move on, he does not stand in her way. He doesn't like the idea, but he supports her grow-th (I know it's one word but apparently I can't write it as one without it turning into groW*H.. 😕). But that doesn't mean he isn't going to try and make it just a little bit easier for her. Standing in line again and waiting for hours while Priya has a chance to come face to face with her ex and get distraught again? That does not sound appealing to anyone, least of all a parent. So when given the chance to bypass all that he accepted it - and that does not necessarily mean that he thought it was right. It just meant that he thought it was the best thing to do for his children, even if at the moment it wasn't ideally right. *sigh* Parents can go so far and so deep for their kids that to me the fact that Pradhan let go of some of his ideals every time one of his kids was in trouble is actually a very humane quality. 😳


Thanks. Yes these are quite natural reactions.. As I said in reply for -JC - at times you are too tired to fight for any thing further. I did think of it this way before making this post also, but just that I did not see that kind of a hint in his reactions and so felt his reactions little (tiny bit) shallow.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: PreeyaKSharma

I did feel parts of Mr. Pradhan's scenes were out of character...

and i agree with a lot of answers put forth here...

but there is one more thing...

there are a lot of irritated by nature people who have something to dislike in anything... especially how the organizations work!



BINGO !! Especially in a country like India !!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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What would you say about Mr. Pradhan today and his refusal to accept a ride from the Jhaakar family. He told his son "I don't like these public servants who consider themselves VIPs". This reaction came after he accepted help from them in getting Devi's darshan.
I do stand by what i said. He may have a higher sense of fighting for what is right than the aam janta because he is a professor, a much more learned person and one who teaches right from wrong to others. But when it comes to his own, the priority is being a father. When the immediate concern of comfort for his children is satisfied, he then becomes this righteous man who doesn't like partiality. His specific reaction to Jhaakar's could be related also to his daughter's experience with the "public servants" whom he hates now. When Mrs. Jhaakar senior insisted that they eat the prasaad she was offering, or about being escorted for darshan he did refuse initially. But either the thought that his children were hungry, or that they'd experience unnecessary difficulties waiting to see the arti when they had already waited so long on the line earlier...had taken more importance. Other than that, he also probably couldn't come up with a nice enough excuse that he could refuse her without being rude unnecessarily...because he obviously has nothing personal against the Jhaakars yet and probably did not want to offend the lady. But when she asked him to come along with them to be dropped off, he made a nice excuse to get out of it. They are nice people but they take advantage of their position and it doesn't sit well with him. But he doesn't take that as a reason to be hostile or rude to them unless he is being inconvenienced by their actions.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-

What would you say about Mr. Pradhan today and his refusal to accept a ride from the Jhaakar family. He told his son "I don't like these public servants who consider themselves VIPs". This reaction came after he accepted help from them in getting Devi's darshan.
I do stand by what i said. He may have a higher sense of fighting for what is right than the aam janta because he is a professor, a much more learned person and one who teaches right from wrong to others. But when it comes to his own, the priority is being a father. When the immediate concern of comfort for his children is satisfied, he then becomes this righteous man who doesn't like partiality. His specific reaction to Jhaakar's could be related also to his daughter's experience with the "public servants" whom he hates now. When Mrs. Jhaakar senior insisted that they eat the prasaad she was offering, or about being escorted for darshan he did refuse initially. But either the thought that his children were hungry, or that they'd experience unnecessary difficulties waiting to see the arti when they had already waited so long on the line earlier...had taken more importance. Other than that, he also probably couldn't come up with a nice enough excuse that he could refuse her without being rude unnecessarily...because he obviously has nothing personal against the Jhaakars yet and probably did not want to offend the lady. But when she asked him to come along with them to be dropped off, he made a nice excuse to get out of it. They are nice people but they take advantage of their position and it doesn't sit well with him. But he doesn't take that as a reason to be hostile or rude to them unless he is being inconvenienced by their actions.



Yes I agree with you. I am happy/ convinced with his reaction. I already updated the post with my reaction, as soon as I saw the epi..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-

What would you say about Mr. Pradhan today and his refusal to accept a ride from the Jhaakar family. He told his son "I don't like these public servants who consider themselves VIPs". This reaction came after he accepted help from them in getting Devi's darshan.
I do stand by what i said. He may have a higher sense of fighting for what is right than the aam janta because he is a professor, a much more learned person and one who teaches right from wrong to others. But when it comes to his own, the priority is being a father. When the immediate concern of comfort for his children is satisfied, he then becomes this righteous man who doesn't like partiality. His specific reaction to Jhaakar's could be related also to his daughter's experience with the "public servants" whom he hates now. When Mrs. Jhaakar senior insisted that they eat the prasaad she was offering, or about being escorted for darshan he did refuse initially. But either the thought that his children were hungry, or that they'd experience unnecessary difficulties waiting to see the arti when they had already waited so long on the line earlier...had taken more importance. Other than that, he also probably couldn't come up with a nice enough excuse that he could refuse her without being rude unnecessarily...because he obviously has nothing personal against the Jhaakars yet and probably did not want to offend the lady. But when she asked him to come along with them to be dropped off, he made a nice excuse to get out of it. They are nice people but they take advantage of their position and it doesn't sit well with him. But he doesn't take that as a reason to be hostile or rude to them unless he is being inconvenienced by their actions.

i agree with u and u are right about Mr.pardhan.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hello Everyone,
I usually am not involved in many discussions or posts, cuz its hard for me to balance IF with my studies and other stuff, but I've been reading a lot of things on these forums and would love to start getting into the habit of being more "involved" I really enjoy reading your posts, and discussions agreeing or disagreeing on various topics. I just hope that I can be a part of this forum as much as many of you.

Continuing to the Topic being discussed, i just wanted to point out something that Mr. Pradhan Said to his daughter's ex when he was shouting. Didn't he say something about how he ruined his daughter's life and then probably had his parents pay the higher authorities to get out of whatever it was that had been done? If that was the case, then maybe that also has a lot to do with Mr. Pradhan's negativity towards VIP's. It's not that he has anything against Adi and his family, just the idea that these are the people who give themselves so much importance when their duty should be fulfilled with Truth, and honesty. Something that wasn't exemplified when he and his daughter needed these men to help get his daughter justice.

Otherwise I agree with most- Mr. Pradhan is a man of morals, and values, yet if a situation arises where he has to chose his morals or the happiness of his children, like any other father, he chooses his children.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: xsaher786x

Hello Everyone,
I usually am not involved in many discussions or posts, cuz its hard for me to balance IF with my studies and other stuff, but I've been reading a lot of things on these forums and would love to start getting into the habit of being more "involved" I really enjoy reading your posts, and discussions agreeing or disagreeing on various topics. I just hope that I can be a part of this forum as much as many of you.

Continuing to the Topic being discussed, i just wanted to point out something that Mr. Pradhan Said to his daughter's ex when he was shouting. Didn't he say something about how he ruined his daughter's life and then probably had his parents pay the higher authorities to get out of whatever it was that had been done? If that was the case, then maybe that also has a lot to do with Mr. Pradhan's negativity towards VIP's. It's not that he has anything against Adi and his family, just the idea that these are the people who give themselves so much importance when their duty should be fulfilled with Truth, and honesty. Something that wasn't exemplified when he and his daughter needed these men to help get his daughter justice.

Otherwise I agree with most- Mr. Pradhan is a man of morals, and values, yet if a situation arises where he has to chose his morals or the happiness of his children, like any other father, he chooses his children.


this is not a sure shot answer to if Aman' a VIP since even a normal middle class person in india can bribe anyone... but yeah this does prove this point of hating government officials!
and hey... welcome aboard saher!

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