Out of Character !!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Dear Friends,
This is my first post in this forum. Hope we will have good time here. Maryada caught my attension because of its description. However I was skeptical till I actually saw the episodes. I liked what I saw in the first 3 episodes, the remaining episodes also seem to be good. Hope the show maintains itself.
I felt yesterday's action of Priya's father was out of character. I mean we saw him to be a person fighting spontaneously against injustice and or undue favorisms to certain favoured class of people etc. in many occasions till now. In fact we saw him responding excessively to such situations, in the sense when the normal person tries to keep quite and save his skin, this guy fights. But yesterday when a similar treatment was offered to him, he accepted it without any problem. I mean, in the temple they were provided easy entry to the godess with the help of police power and he accepted it without any problem. This I felt was really out of character. Hope they make this character more clear to us. Is he a person who responds to the situation only if he is affected ?
Priya: From what I saw, especially yesterday, she seems to be strong, lively, bold person before the incident. It is very unlikely for such a person to have strong suicidal tendencies, even if they are subjected to very bad situations. If ever they have to commit suicide, it should be a spontaneous decision and can't be a planned decision. In the previous two incidents she did not try comiting suicide. She was just lost in her disasterous past and was oblivious to the surroundings and was in the verge of danger. In the second time, in fact, Aditya's shout has suddenly made her loose the balance. I think this is perfectly fine and goes with her character. But, it appears that she tries to commit suicide in the future episodes. This will definitely be out of character. As this has to be a planned one (she buying a one way ticket etc). I hope they dont do it, and it would turn out to be as in the previous two situations.
PS : I liked what Aditya said to Priya yesterday "Your father is fighting for you with the world and you are not doing it yourself" This kind of brought back the fighting spirit in her and that is good. Any person should ideally fight for themselves, drawing strength from others occassionally when they are badly hit. The person is will be a very weak person, if others have to fight on their behalf.


EDIT : Well I got some answers from today's episode. It matches with what we were discussing to a good extent..

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi kva,

Welcome to the forum and nice post! 😊
Mr. Pradhan did act out of character yesterday and even before when the TC gets them back to their reserved compartment. Considering how principled he is, he could have mentioned other passengers too getting their original seats back, but he said nothing, because his work was done!
I guess the only explanation for this is the Creatives probably do not pay as much attention to the peripheral characters as they do to the main leads (And many a times, even that doesn't happen!) It was necessary to show Aditya accompanying the Pradhan's to the temple, to basically show his growing bond with Priya and her family and hence, Mr. Pradhan was made to act out of character! Can't think of any other reason!
Regarding Priya, I am not so sure! The viewers are not clear as to why she took a one-way ticket...it could be because she wanted to go away somewhere from there to live on her own and cut away from her past life. But ofcourse, the more reasonable answer is that ending her life was definitely on her mind, because she was left speechless when Aditya confronted her with that fact! If that wasn't true, she would have answered Aditya back and not fell silent.
I think she is trying to overcome her fears and past trauma which makes her temporarily spirited and normal but at the same time, she is being overwhelmed by them and at that point, subconciously she thinks of ending her life. Priya is somewhere between trying to live her life and contemplating to end her life!
Until and unless a person goes through a hard time, it is impossible to say how much emotional strenght a person has! Rape is probably the most traumatic and life-changing event for its victim. And Priya was on the brink of getting married to the boy she loved...so not only did she lose her honor, but also her love and life! Anyone in her place would have broken into pieces or gone insane...in that way, Priya is holding on alright till now!
I hope Priya doesn't try to end her life again...not after her conversation (albeit one sided) with Aditya and the fact that his words influenced her enough to go and face her ex-fiancee!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppy2009

Hi kva,

Welcome to the forum and nice post! 😊
Mr. Pradhan did act out of character yesterday and even before when the TC gets them back to their reserved compartment. Considering how principled he is, he could have mentioned other passengers too getting their original seats back, but he said nothing, because his work was done!
I guess the only explanation for this is the Creatives probably do not pay as much attention to the peripheral characters as they do to the main leads (And many a times, even that doesn't happen!) It was necessary to show Aditya accompanying the Pradhan's to the temple, to basically show his growing bond with Priya and her family and hence, Mr. Pradhan was made to act out of character! Can't think of any other reason!
Regarding Priya, I am not so sure! The viewers are not clear as to why she took a one-way ticket...it could be because she wanted to go away somewhere from there to live on her own and cut away from her past life. But ofcourse, the more reasonable answer is that ending her life was definitely on her mind, because she was left speechless when Aditya confronted her with that fact! If that wasn't true, she would have answered Aditya back and not fell silent.
I think she is trying to overcome her fears and past trauma which makes her temporarily spirited and normal but at the same time, she is being overwhelmed by them and at that point, subconciously she thinks of ending her life. Priya is somewhere between trying to live her life and contemplating to end her life!
Until and unless a person goes through a hard time, it is impossible to say how much emotional strenght a person has! Rape is probably the most traumatic and life-changing event for its victim. And Priya was on the brink of getting married to the boy she loved...so not only did she lose her honor, but also her love and life! Anyone in her place would have broken into pieces or gone insane...in that way, Priya is holding on alright till now!
I hope Priya doesn't try to end her life again...not after her conversation (albeit one sided) with Aditya and the fact that his words influenced her enough to go and face her ex-fiancee!



Thanks. Yes, even the train incident was out of character for Mr. Pradhan. You might be right, they may not give importance to the other characters. But it is not at all correct, especially with serials of this type, which show some good potential. Hope they clarify the character and as I said earlier, he might be the person who responds to the situation only if he is affected.

Regarding Priya, the one in Red seems to be more correct. Because during the previous conversation with Aditya, she did say "do you think I will commit suicide ?" Yes she was actually not silent, she only said this sentence (if I am correct). But I agree with rest of your points.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with you regarding Priya's father acting out of character regarding the train compartment issue and then the entrance to the temple thing as well, but maybe it is his character, he would only fight for his own interest and not that of the others.....they didn't actually show him fighting for others so its not really that much out of character. He is like most of us....who would fight till we get what we want then forget the rest of the world.

As for Priya, i don't think she was attempting suicide.....she is lost in her thoughts and she is devastated so she isn't in her right mind....its just the Adi surprised her so she fell.....i don't think she tried to commit suicide......but if she did then that is not consistent with who she is shown to be.....she who is highly concerned about her family and is struggling to live isn't the sort of person to give up on life.....what ever the reason maybe.....but something like rape can test the best of people because i guess its not something a person can come out of easily.......but i hope they don't show her trying to commit suicide again after what Adi told her about fighting your inner demons first.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyankumupal

I agree with you regarding Priya's father acting out of character regarding the train compartment issue and then the entrance to the temple thing as well, but maybe it is his character, he would only fight for his own interest and not that of the others.....they didn't actually show him fighting for others so its not really that much out of character. He is like most of us....who would fight till we get what we want then forget the rest of the world.


As for Priya, i don't think she was attempting suicide.....she is lost in her thoughts and she is devastated so she isn't in her right mind....its just the Adi surprised her so she fell.....i don't think she tried to commit suicide......but if she did then that is not consistent with who she is shown to be.....she who is highly concerned about her family and is struggling to live isn't the sort of person to give up on life.....what ever the reason maybe.....but something like rape can test the best of people because i guess its not something a person can come out of easily.......but i hope they don't show her trying to commit suicide again after what Adi told her about fighting your inner demons first.



This is exactly what I was trying to say and thanks for replying and agreeing.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't think Mr. Pradhan acted completely out of character. Neither in the train nor at mandir.

You caught his character right that he fights injustice only if its directly affecting him or his loved one. He just went thru an emotional exterem with almost loosing his son in the train. Ofcourse when someone comes and offers him a more comfy place to sit and a more peaceful journey he'll take that up without questions.
As for mandir...he again is agitated and concerned about his daughter's emotional state. So when they are given the opportunity to not stand in line for hours and go through another kind of torture and go have darshan sooner...he originally declined but when insisted upon, he didn't fight it.

So his character is not out place in that he is first and foremost a father and then the "aam guy" whose sense of injustice forces him to fight. Adi caught this trait of his future father-in-law. He told Priya "your father who is ready to fight the world for you".. as in the guy will raise to the occasion when it concerns his children. But when his children's life is being made more comfortable, he'll not complain. Some may see it as being selfish. But I say thats the heart of all parents. And its a very realistic portrayal of a father who is also an 'aam guy'. There are tons of people like Mr. Pradhan who raise their voice only when they are wronged and not when they see someone else being wronged.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-

I don't think Mr. Pradhan acted completely out of character. Neither in the train nor at mandir.

YEs possibly it was not out of character but I am probably excepting little more from this character. He is a much better person than the people who can't fight for themselves, but would have been even better if he could also fight for others. This expectation in me is mainly because he shown to be reacting in an extremely spontaneous and aggressive way towards the injustive.

You caught his character right that he fights injustice only if its directly affecting him or his loved one. He just went thru an emotional exterem with almost loosing his son in the train. Ofcourse when someone comes and offers him a more comfy place to sit and a more peaceful journey he'll take that up without questions.
As for mandir...he again is agitated and concerned about his daughter's emotional state. So when they are given the opportunity to not stand in line for hours and go through another kind of torture and go have darshan sooner...he originally declined but when insisted upon, he didn't fight it.

This is a nice point. A person often does not have strength left in him/her just after a massive fight. Possibly that is the reason. Thanks.


So his character is not out place in that he is first and foremost a father and then the "aam guy" whose sense of injustice forces him to fight. Adi caught this trait of his future father-in-law. He told Priya "your father who is ready to fight the world for you".. as in the guy will raise to the occasion when it concerns his children. But when his children's life is being made more comfortable, he'll not complain. Some may see it as being selfish. But I say thats the heart of all parents. And its a very realistic portrayal of a father who is also an 'aam guy'. There are tons of people like Mr. Pradhan who raise their voice only when they are wronged and not when they see someone else being wronged.

As I said before, he is not just 'aam guy'. But a better person than 'aam guy' as he has loads of guts to fight (infact some times it lead to dangerous situations). But I repeat, it would have been more natural for this kind of an aggressive person to even fight for others, but again I agree with you in it being circumstancial. Lets see what is in store for us in future.



Thanks for replying and my answers in red.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-


You caught his character right that he fights injustice only if its directly affecting him or his loved one. He just went thru an emotional exterem with almost loosing his son in the train. Ofcourse when someone comes and offers him a more comfy place to sit and a more peaceful journey he'll take that up without questions.
As for mandir...he again is agitated and concerned about his daughter's emotional state. So when they are given the opportunity to not stand in line for hours and go through another kind of torture and go have darshan sooner...he originally declined but when insisted upon, he didn't fight it.

Totally agree with you on this! He is righteous and agitated when his children are concerned but otherwise he is silent! Quite natural, actually! Most of us only speak when it concerns the welfare of our loved ones...we might sympathize with strangers in trouble, but few will fight other people's battles!
In an interview, Ridhi (who plays Priya) talks about how her character is a highly moralistic and righteous girl who does exactly what her Father teaches her and gets into big trouble because of her this trait (Referring to the rape incident) So, I am guessing that Mr. Pradhan feels somewhere personally responsible for his daughter's life and hence only protects his interests! (Might have something to do with Priya giving evidence against a police officer and him taking revenge on her!)
PS : Frankly, am too interested watching Adi and Pri, to really bother about Mr. Pradhan, as of now! 😳😆
Edited by poppy2009 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-

I don't think Mr. Pradhan acted completely out of character. Neither in the train nor at mandir.

You caught his character right that he fights injustice only if its directly affecting him or his loved one. He just went thru an emotional exterem with almost loosing his son in the train. Ofcourse when someone comes and offers him a more comfy place to sit and a more peaceful journey he'll take that up without questions.
As for mandir...he again is agitated and concerned about his daughter's emotional state. So when they are given the opportunity to not stand in line for hours and go through another kind of torture and go have darshan sooner...he originally declined but when insisted upon, he didn't fight it.

So his character is not out place in that he is first and foremost a father and then the "aam guy" whose sense of injustice forces him to fight. Adi caught this trait of his future father-in-law. He told Priya "your father who is ready to fight the world for you".. as in the guy will raise to the occasion when it concerns his children. But when his children's life is being made more comfortable, he'll not complain. Some may see it as being selfish. But I say thats the heart of all parents. And its a very realistic portrayal of a father who is also an 'aam guy'. There are tons of people like Mr. Pradhan who raise their voice only when they are wronged and not when they see someone else being wronged.

I am second on you. u have said my mind.😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ kvva: firstly thanks for opening a topic on Mr. Pradhan. I started watching the show just two days ago. It came to my attention when i saw a sig of Priya and Adi. But must say when i had initially read and article about this show some weeks ago it didnt' raise so much expectations in me as did the first epi of the show itself. Every character not just the leading ladies are very well etched out and have nuances to their character that make them all the more real and relatable. So glad to see a topic on the ananlysis of a supporting character.
I'd like to talk about others too, like Adi's grandfather and Imli and her husband. But later about that.

I like what poppy suggested. Tho i am not sure where she is getting the info about Priya's past from..possibly an article that i have not yet read.. if Priya got into trouble for providing witness against a police officer and thats the reason for the disaster in her life, its likely that her father does feel some responsibility for teaching his kids to fight all injustices and hence is now in a "protect my children" mode. Tho its hard to fight the values that are ingrained in your mind and become part of your personality. So he reacts quite instinctively most of the time. But possibly in the train situation and the mandir situation, like i mentioned before the emotional turmoil he is going through would have allowed for a temporary back seat to his sense of moral justice.

I refuse to believe that its a mistake or an overlook by the writers tho. I think a great deal of intelligent creativity and thought went behind this show at least up until now. a lot of attention was given to minute details...and it doesn't make sense that they'd goof up about this.


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