I DON'T BLAME PRATIGYA - Page 14

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

have not seen the epi yet but based on the update it seems that Kesar withdrew the complain and as predicted in her vulnerable state was not in the capacity to maintain the complaint Pratigya initiated on her behalf.

This withdrawal was exactly as I feared, a hasty action (though done for honourable reasons) was aborted midway.

Kesar has now moved front and centre (from her earlier spot on the sidelines) with Pratigya into the Thakur minefield.

Both these girls need to leave that house immediately and regroup. Kesar actually needs to be given some counselling but I think that at this point of time she will be very hesitant to take any more advice or direction from Pratigya as she is too weak willed

I have a feeling that efforts on Prats life will be stepped up now and scorn and harassment will be shamelessly and visibly done.

If this happens and Krish takes Prats away to protect her, who will protect Kesar now considering the unnecesary visibility in that hellhole? How will she survive now? How will Arushi suffer in the aftermath of this?

The collateral damage has the potential of being overwhelming and yet I see no visible signs of success for propelling Kesar into the legal/judicial arena.

Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Hope I just finished watching the episode. I was almost in tears seeing Kesar's plight. Poor woman seemed so lost and numb. The worst part is withdrawing the FIR will make her feel guilty as she wld think she has let down Pratigya, which won't help her present mental state. Oh God it was really sad

Originally posted by: starlight123

I have not seen yesterday's episode but by the comments Kesar withdrew her complaint. Sad but this is the reality of life. One can only fight when they have the WILL to fight and not before that. She knows of no alternative and is scared of the unknown. I am a firm believer of you can only help those who want to help themselves. Pratigya cant fight her battle on her behalf but give her the strength and support that she desperately needs to bring the change in her to be able to fight in the future if she wishes.

I still have doubt that this will be handled sensitively. For that I have to wait and see.

I know of an incident where my barrister friend told me that this woman finally plucked up the courage to press charges against her spouse but he was so outraged that he stalked her (as she had left him and was already in hiding) until he got an opportunity to kill her in front of their children. This is how grim a life can get and this incident is not even in India but the UK.

Before ppl judge they need to understand that observing from the outside is much easier than those living through the hell.

Originally posted by: SAM2U

Sam, I am sorry as i don't understand whether you are being sarcastic or truly believe that Kesar's action y'day were an act of bravery. If you r being sarcastic I am just surprised that you can be sarcastic abt her condition and i have nothing to say as each to its own. But if u seriously mean she was brave then have to say i missed it. Because i cld only see a very scared and timid woman who has suffered a huge loss and is going thro tremendous pain. As a result of that pain she is in an utter state of confusion. She is doing what people around her are telling her. Prats told her to file the FIR, she was too numb because of the pain to say something. Then she was brought home where she was still hurting and the inhumane Thakurs played with her weak mental state by doing the melodrama. This started the guilt trip in her and made her forget her own pain and sympathise with them. Then Komal came in and the replayed da guilt card and scared her with a future which was unimaginable for her. So all i cld see was a totally confused woman which hadn't even got over her own loss and pain.

Although your sarcasm abt Krishna was clearly understood. Just have to say if his meharoo had thgt abt Kesar's mental state and her safety rather than what is right, not rushed into filing FIR and not brought Kesar back to the house, given sometime for Kesar to recover and then thgt abt the FIR I don't think a situation like that would have come up.

Edited by krishna_chalbo - 15 years ago

Is it not ok when a man hits a woman .............but ok when woman hits a man ?.

If so , which sex shud that be ? Shud the man's SLAP [ and im not talking of ABUSE as in ABUSE here [ the way Shakti does] ........Im merely talking of a slap as a reaction in anger ok] be regarded as something terrible while a womans slap shud be accepted as a way of life [ it happens when ur angry] bcoz she is THE WEAKER SEX , HER SLAP IS OK < IT DOESNT REALLY HURT IT ONLY SENDS OUT A MESSAGE ?

Pratigya often resports to slaps as a reaction when angered .She has slapped Krishna , Angad . Krishna has slapped when he is angered , I have NOT seen him slapping simply for timepass . Shakti hits Kesar even without anger , just the way a cat plays with a mouse when idle too .........So I WONT consider Shakti as an ordinary man who slaps only at peak of anger .Shakti is an ABUSER , an animal .

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Krishna HAS HIT Pratigya. Once. She walked out with her father. He went after her. She refused to come back (for complicated reasons but still). She stayed away for days. The marriage was almost over. almost. She refused to go back into that house without being invited into it. She stuck to her guns till SS asked her to come back.
For Krishna, at a basic level, it was a lesson. Hit me and you won't like the consequences. A little self control will serve you better. He has not hit her again. .

And Pratigya hasnt hit Krishna ?

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Although I fully understand the point ur trying to make , I wished to make my personal observation here .

Is it not ok when a man hits a woman .............but ok when woman hits a man ?.

What should it ideally be ? Never hitting at all or shud one sex be exempted from using hitting or slapping as a reaction in anger ?

If so , which sex shud that be ? Shud the man's SLAP [ and im not talking of ABUSE as in ABUSE here [ the way Shakti does] ........Im merely talking of a slap as a reaction in anger ok] be regarded as something terrible while a womans slap shud be accepted as a way of life [ it happens when ur angry] bcoz she is THE WEAKER SEX , HER SLAP IS OK < IT DOESNT REALLY HURT IT ONLY SENDS OUT A MESSAGE ?

But then the point of the whole show is women r nOT the weaker sex !

Also ........Slapping occasionally as a REACTION when anger is at its peak .............is it ok if the cause is justified ? Like Pratigya slapping Angad when he mocked her . Or Krishna slapping Pratigya coz she embarassed him . If so .........WHO DECIDES IF THE CAUSE IS JUSTIFIED ? Each person has his viewpoint , JUSTIFICATION is a SUBJECTIVE FEELING !

Pratigya often resports to slaps as a reaction when angered .She has slapped Krishna , Angad . Krishna has slapped when he is angered , I have NOT seen him slapping simply for timepass . Shakti hits Kesar even without anger , just the way a cat plays with a mouse when idle too .........So I WONT consider Shakti as an ordinary man who slaps only at peak of anger .Shakti is an ABUSER , an animal .

We saw Arushi slapping . We saw Naina slapping Adarsh once . She has slapped Arushi too .

As i see it , slapping seems to be an acceptable form of reaction when ur anger is at its peak point in this serial at least , if the person slapping feels justified . Yet we saw Pratigya making a big issue of that slap as if SLAPPING was something she had never done herself or never even witnessed . That confused me .😕 Hell , even the Professor had used Slapping as a method to convey his message once to Angad . So as I saw it , Slapping is ok for them .........its not ok when they dont see the justification for the slap given to them . And this is what i object to ...........this is HYPOCRISY . Coz from the POV of the person who slaps , he is always feeling justified as justification is SUBJECTIVE and varies frpm person to person .

Originally posted by: kriyaconsumesme

Do u think all the slapping situations were the same??? I mean I dont want comment on Prog. or Nainaji's slaps as they dont matter much but when K slapped P:

1. He slapped her to hide his own mistake

2. He made up such a big lie and involved both the families in it...and a lie was such which was not possible to turn into truth anytime soon.

3. On the top he made P part of his lie.

4. He forced her to be a part of his act😡

5. She made repeatative attempts to make him understand the outcome at the end of the day for such a lie

6. During this lie, he tried to force himself on her to turn it into reality.

7. When she refused to be a part of it in front of god anymore, she was ridiculed and verbally abused by everyone and he was standing there as a mute spectator😡

8. And instead of accepting his fault, he had the audacity to slap her.

And ur saying she made a big issue out of it....now as far as slapping K and A by P is concerned, you know after several attempts to make them understand...they didnt budge...K created a huge scene at P's engagement and even after everyone tried to make him understand, he turned violent with Nitin and Adarsh...he in fact dragged P in front of everyone...and ur comparing both the situation and ur calling P a hypocrite😲😲😲😕😕😕

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I just KNEW it that I wudnt be UNDERSTOOD in proper way .😊

Ok , I ask u THIS question , am VERY interested in the answer . So if Pratigya does wrong .......like LYING , or saying sumthing iNSULTING to Krishna that UR A FAALTU GUNDA I HATE U ETC and Krishna slaps her its ok ? Can Krishna slap when PRatigya does something wrong ? I am just asking hypothetically .Lets say Krishna has been very GOOD to her sacrificed for her .And she misunderstands and insults him in public .And he gives her ONE TIGHT SLAP after taking a lot of insults quietly for a longggg time .In this situation is it ok for him to slap her ?Ur opinion plzz .