I DON'T BLAME PRATIGYA

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Posted: 15 years ago
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There was a time when all I could see was Pratigya's faults and single-mindedness and her perpetual state of oblivion was a big gripe for me.


Her actions in filing the FIR against her husband's mother is totally in line with her character and as such she cannot be blamed for her actions. It is not her fault, it's in her genes. Not only is Shyam Saxsena's genes a dominant factor in her constant behaviour but his counsel and teachings are an added and unmistakable influence.


The Creative Head stated that Pratigya is the symbol of truth. I beg to differ. She is a symbol of self-imposed righteousness.

Righteous people win more because of persistence than rationale. Their single mindedness makes them see, strive and achieve immediate wins but where they fail is in securing long term stability or objectives. It is true that righteous people are typically beacons of leadership and inspiration for society (i.e. Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Rosa Parks, etc) but while we tout their actions and obvious wins what goes unmentioned is the future that they leave behind. Martin Luther King got a bold degree of equality for blacks yet all he secured was the immediate win of equal representation not the long term win of societal development and generational security. Gandhi freed us from the British yet his game plan did not cover the post independence strategy or even consider whether his compatriots were capable of building and progressing post-independence India. While I greatly admire and find inspiration in these righteous and idealistic individuals, as the next generation in the Free World I see the potential for chaos and disorganization that their righteous vision can leave unattended. Their solutions and their actions are admirable but lack the much needed value of pragmatism.

Pratigya REACTED to the loss of a child (commendable and understandable) yet BEFORE she reacted she did not pause to think WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE FIR IS LODGED???

  • Will Kesar be able to fight the battle I have chosen for her?
  • Will she want to?
  • If she does not want to, then what happens to the battle? Have I stirred a hornet's nest for no apparent reason and possibly worsened the status quo?
  • If she does decided to fight, what will happen to her once her only source of finances is taken away?
  • Will justice truly be achieved considering SS's political influence? If a person (my dad) totally lacking any influence and very visibly guilty of a crime that he has confessed to repeatedly was able to go scot-free with a newbie lawyer, is there any hope of SS's wife and son actually being convicted of anything or incarcerated for even a plausible period of time for the killing of a fetus (many countries do not give fetus the consideration of a person – consequently penalty may be a few months incarceration as opposed to a longer sentence)?
  • What are my other options – a blood thirsty media?? Human rights organization?? Things that may not incarcerate my in-laws but will definitely bring shame and loss to their name and position and still bring visibility to the crime more successfully than an FIR?
  • What effect is this action going to have on my marriage? One that is so new and fragile and just stabilizing? Will the backlash from family be too much for my husband (who is also a son undeniably) to bear??

I have to assume that she did not ask these questions before she acted. The CVs never showed her pondering thus. I don't blame her because these are not questions or thoughts that idealists think of. Their single mindedness acts like blinders.

Growing up there were two phrases that helped me a lot.

Fools Rush In

Haste Makes Waste

I am not saying that Pratigya is a fool as her intentions were honourable. But pragmatic people think different than idealists. And a pragmatic person would have pondered first before rushing in.

The issue in my mind is not so much the FIR but rather the speed at which it was done.

Because of her speed:

  1. Shakti and Amma gain SS's sympathy and support rather than his wrath
  2. Krishna is rushed in taking on a battle when he does not understand the issue or have all the facts
  3. Kesar is overwhelmed by all the events and in her extremely vulnerable state is buying her husband's behaviour and is considering withdrawing the comments
  4. The battle has become Pratigya's not Kesar's CONTRARY to Pratigya's original intent.

Had she not made haste and rushed into the FIR:

  1. Shakti and Amma would have incurred SS full wrath
  2. Because of SS anger, Krishna would have learnt all the truth and get a better understanding of a situation he would later have to actively be engaged (courtesy Pratigya). More time for him to digest, rationalize and pick sides. Less potential for emotional blackmail to have any effect when rationality is in full bloom
  3. Kesar would see her husband's real behavior. His pure hatred, disinterest and open shamelessness for her loss. This would have fuelled the anger in her as a mother and woman and
  4. The battle would become Kesar's not Pratigya's EXACTLY AS PRATIGYA INTENDED. No coaxing or prodding would be required from Pratigya's end, just counsel and direction (which is the way it should have been).

Again the issue in my mind is not so much the FIR but rather the speed at which it was done. Hospital records could always be relied on to register an FIR at a later date but some time would have helped her developed a more effective plan. Kesar would have adequate time to get emotional and mentally strong, bolder and consider all the pros and cons of the FIR and her life after. These are the decisions that make bold actions effective in implementation.

I don't blame Pratigya. Pearl Grey created her character as an idealist not a pragmatist.

There was a time that I would condemn Pearl Grey for creating such an oblivious individual but the fact of the matter is that such idealist people exist (whether Pearl shows it or not) and the only people that find her inspirational are those that are mostly idealistic in their thinking. I say, let them revel in her actions. Everyone is entitled to entertainment and inspiration.

I know that Pearl Grey had hoped to send out social messages through this show, so Pearl here are the messages I got from your team:

  • social issues exist (I already knew that but thanks for reminding me again) but no successful real life solutions probably exist or have been discovered by your research team (or else you would not have wasted your time showing us surreal impractical filmy solutions)
  • a love marriage between an idealist (Pratigya) and a pragmatist (Krishna) is rife with rare bouts of pleasure and constant waves of misery, contention and strife. The friction that attracts also leaves a huge amount of collateral damage behind and takes a toll on the couple's individual peace of mind, confidence and state of stability.
  • Idealists will always have a bigger fan following than pragmatists because their bold statements and actions are more sensational to watch than practical solutions and small time wins are.

Your show has indeed been thought provoking to watch (as promised). I just wish that the thoughts were more inspirational rather than perturbing for me.

Hope

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Dabulls23 thumbnail
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Although I dont watch Pratigya anymore but did watch it initially...
Excellent post Hopester and with valid points if I may say so...👏
Keep it coming love...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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good explanation but prats stance may not acceptable for indian society especially in lower and middle class.it may add insult to their injury
Edited by bdsbds - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Excellent post Hope . . If u want my honest opinion .........She should have NOT lodged the FIR . She should have used her BRAINS and thrown Shakti and Amma in the Lion's den . Sajjan Singhs den . That punishment wud be the WORST they wud have got . . She shud have phoned SS instead of Krishna and taken Kesar there and thrown her at his feet saying Babuji Babuji see what Shaktibhai and ur wife did , they took away ur POTA , I tried to save him a lot Babuji but cudn't , I am so SORRY . . Sajjan Singh wud have then unleashed his fury on them . Shaktis privileges as elder son wud have been taken away and Amma wud have seen him in his WORST LIGHT . . As it happens , due to sudden police interference , his own prestige in society became the priority issue that preceded the POTA issue .He didnt even have time to grieve over his POTA , he had to take care of his DHOTI first . . Due to that , Shakti got off with a few slaps and Amma got NO SLAP AT ALL . . Amma shud have ideally got a whipping . . Seeing Sajjans fury , Krishna wud have observed the hoopla as a bystander and his mom and bro wud have gone away from his heart . . All Pratigyas purposes wud have been achieved . . Due to police interference SS cud not even hear the truth for long .For so long they were talking and hedging about other topics , but the death of his grandson was not broken effectively to him either by Pratigya or the police . . When it was broken to him it was too late .The izzat of family in society had taken precedence over personal grief . . The crafty old fox used Krishna of course .Not just that , he showed Shakti the way to get out .VIA KESAR . . Did it strike Pratigya even once that the corrupt police of UP wud simply dismiss the case ? That Guruma is influential ....one phone to a Minister and that DIG wud put his tail between his legs . . Which police case has to date Pratigya seen wITHOUT corruption ? She has seen how her complaints against stalkers were disregarded She has seen how her bro was implicated in a falsepolice case
She has seen how when her DAd was in jail police REFUSED to lodge a FIR even after he agreed to the crime simply coz they awaited SS arrival
She now saw how Two police Inspectors refused to TOUCH SS family but went away .
She has seen AMPLE police corruption by now . AMPLE . Still she chooses those ineffective means to try and bring justice in the family .
I feel instead of going to corrupt police she shud turn SS against Shakti and Wife
She shud work on Kesar individually in making her bold enough to HATE shakti openly
She shud demand land for Kesar and a makaan where she cann live with her share away from abuse and tell SS this will bring u votes as fair man
She shud contact Kesars rich family and make them take interest in Kesars fate and form a protection cord around Kesar .
As it happens , the corrupt police will drop the case , villains will go scot free and Shakti and Amma will go scot free .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ Hope

I am really impressed the way you drafted your post. Especially this segment.

"Righteous people win more because of persistence than rationale. Their single mindedness makes them see, strive and achieve immediate wins but where they fail is in securing long term stability or objectives. It is true that righteous people are typically beacons of leadership and inspiration for society (i.e. Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Rosa Parks, etc) but while we tout their actions and obvious wins what goes unmentioned is the future that they leave behind."

This para clearly implied Pratigya posses the same qualities that of those great leaders you quoted above. Do you really think so. I am impressed and salute you for even comparing her to those greats.

And what ever you argued and asked Pear Grey for showing us may sound valid but the channel and production house can not only concentrate on the purity of the subject. If this would have been only a serial concentrating on issues related to woman's issues per say, they wouldn't have ever been able to secure a prime time slot, Not many viewers belonging to all walks of life would have watched it.

So its a mix of a love track, various relationships with complexities, superior dialogues and cleverly embedded are the burning issues within the storyline . I think the success of this show in making this as the most watched serial giving top slot across major GECs, speaks volumes of what Pearl Grey wanted to achieve and has remarkably achieved in a relatively short span of time .

I have no complaints, I am enjoying this show and the way creatives are flowing the sequence of events and narrating it beautifully which requires a resounding applaud
. 👏



Edited by SAM2U - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: bdsbds

good explanation but prats stance may not acceptable for indian society especially in lower and middle class.it may add insult to their injury



Isn't this the purpose of this show 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SAM2U



And what ever you argued and asked Pear Grey for showing us may sound valid but the channel and production house can not only concentrate on the purity of the subject. If this would have been only a serial concentrating on issues related to woman's issues per say, they wouldn't have ever been able to secure a prime time slot, Not many viewers belonging to all walks of life would have watched it.

So its a mix of a love track, various relationships with complexities, superior dialogues and cleverly embedded are the burning issues within the storyline . I think the success of this show in making this as the most watched serial giving top slot across major GECs, speaks volume of what Pearl Grey wanted to achieve and has achieved in a relatively short span of time .

I have no complaints, I am enjoying this show and the way creatives are flowing the sequence of events and narrating it beautifully which requires a resounding applaud
. 👏





What an excellent analysis of what a daily soap needs to do, Sam! WAH! 👏👏
Me too - enjoying it just the way they're showing it - enjoying all the aspects!
Bubble



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapbubble



What an excellent analysis of what a daily soap needs to do, Sam! WAH! 👏👏
Me too - enjoying it just the way they're showing it - enjoying all the aspects!
Bubble





Bubble sarcasm aside, It is in fact a daily soap, but just a bit different. catering for a wide range of audience and viewership who may not posses the doctorate degree to critic the nuisance per say but many can understand and absorb the message this soap is trying to televise. But for a few who demands the best methodology or perfectness in every aspects applied may be a tall order for CVs to fulfill at this moment.
Edited by SAM2U - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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to do the right thing, pratigya will have to move from thinking
"let me teach these goons a lesson" to
"what's best for kesar"
moving from doing what suits her best to thinking about someone else. pratigya is incapable of doing this.
for all ekta's heroines other faults, none was as selfish and self-centred as this one.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gawker

to do the right thing, pratigya will have to move from thinking

"let me teach these goons a lesson" to
"what's best for kesar"
moving from doing what suits her best to thinking about someone else. pratigya is incapable of doing this.
for all ekta's heroines other faults, none was as selfish and self-centred as this one.



@ gawker: 👏 you seldom write, but when you do you can deliver the same message in less then three lines what Stillhope tried to do in her three page long post.

I agree Pratigya's character, bearing in mind this characters age and experience, may sound selfish and self-centered and might as well be the requirement to be portrayed as such but she still manages to impact critics such as you to only pick her out from the versatile star-cast, to me is a commendation for the role this character is portraying. 😊

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