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Posted: 15 years ago
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Oh man Guys out of all the lines used in thiis show that "apsara" wala line is what I hate the most. I somehow dread that behavior from Nakku. She is quite overconfident abt her looks aint it?. I feel so.. She is pretty but considering herself "apsara" is a bit too much ..... That in turn suggests how much she adores her beauty. Didnt she see what her beauty could do to Dutta? ...........he hardly gave her a second glance when he saw her on road one day .......... hope she keeps herself grounded and doesnt go gaga abt her beauty. Hope we dont get to hear such over-dramatic lines from her ......
Abt Dutta's perspective, I dont think he misjudged Seema-Sups. Both were actually hinting him that they are beautiful ppl and they find no interest in him........... But what Dutta concluded from those betrayls was what was wrong. He concluded that just because they are two good looking women they rejected him. But the truth is more to it...........Beauty is just one part of the betrayl. Seema betrayed him for money and Sups betrayed him for her love.......... Dutta failed to see it. No wonder Jags said that Dutta is naive and is a poor judge...........
Since he thinks Seema-Sups betrayed him cuz of their beauty.......and Nakku thinks otherwise of herself........... he feels she has no reason to betray him.
This preconceived notion is soon gonna take him down the hill but then he will come out of it too .............with flying colors and Nakku besides him............. Afterall love isnt easy....... This time atleast he will be in pain for true love not for some traitor........
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltl_fan

With so much emphasis on Dutta's subconciousconnectingbeauty with betrayalI am afraid the CV's are actually setting the stage for yet another road to rage by Dutta when he finds out about Nakku's beauty. First where he says to Jagtap the more the beauty the bigger the betrayal and then Seema/Supriya's reference to beauty in his dream sequence followed by Nakku saying I am ordinary but I love you. I feel the CV's are going to torture us with yet another path of betrayal. Even Nakku is fighting with her subconcious to tell him the truth as this is indeedthe onlylie she has between her and Dutta. I truly hope the CV'shave something else planned as it would give the viewers the wrong message that the only reason Dutta wants to give Nakku a chance is because she is not beautiful. Dutta should not be shown making that distinction. From the beginning Dutta has never been shown tonotice physical beauty as he was never shown going ga ga over Seema or Supriya's beauty and also in his eyes Nakku looked so pretty on the day of the wedding. So now with Dutta making this connection is so unlike his character buildup.




I think and i HOPE its the other way round. They are intentionally showing this to Us viewers and Nakusha that he will react to is terrible if he comes to know abt her hidden truth.. but They are planning to surprise us and nakusha .. and make that moment even more precious.. I dont know why but i got this feeling .. and i hope after revelation Dutta stands by her... and value her even more.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Very interesting discussion!

In my view, Dutta has always been broad-minded enough not to get prejudiced over a person's physical appearance! He had no problem trusting and befriending an ugly Nakusha, because according to him she had a clean heart and that's what mattered most to him! BUT, I believe, though not many would agree with me, that Dutta too, like other men, had dreamt of a beautiful partner! Physical appearance DID matter to him when it came to love…or rather what he perceived as love! Though it has never been actually SHOWN, but there were subtle hints! Dutta avoided women for 10 years, because he felt susceptible to their charm…feared that he might get entangled again which could lead to another heartbreak! Naku too, is a young woman! But Dutta had no qualms in talking to her for hours, or touching her(even in front of a big audience)! I think Dutta felt completely SAFE around her (in his subconscious)…he knew that he could never get attracted to her…she was nothing like the image he had in his mind of his potential mate!
I have to mention the button-sewing scene here… Dutta was so aloof and so unaware of the young woman standing close to his chest, touching it…almost as if she was not a woman at all! In my opinion, Dutta wouldn't have even opened up to Naku , if she had been in her pretty avatar from day 1…he would certainly have felt threatened by her physical charm!

So, until recently Dutta had nurtured in his mind a superficial view of love…where physical appearance amounted to a lot! But, his experiences with Seema-Sups and then Naku, has forced him to think differently! He is finally learning to see BEYOND outer beauty...and perceive and feel love in a much deeper way! Hence, the beauty-talk in the dream-sequence!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000099">Abt the song ..........at first watch I didnt even listen to it properly ........ was totally drowned in the scenes.........but after like 50th-60th watch, I find it was an apt choice. Not for the voice or music but for words. I find the song has some apt words for Dutta and the condition he is............ "Jab aaoge tum thab gayenge hum ....... sargam yeh saje tere sang sang .......... iss khwaab ko sach karke hi jaana re......."........How apt was that for him. The most touching line was "Naa khelo sanam ......... tere hi hain hum ............ dhadkan yeh meri dil ki pooche re tere dil se ............ Ki sach much kya ho tu diniya mein". It was as if Dutta was finding it difficult to accept that "true love" exists ........ </font>

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000099">One thing that I love abt LTL is that all the songs they used on this show have been out of the box. Never saw any cliched song being played and today was no different .............. Thats why I dont mind the song. It suits the bill.</font>

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000099">Abt Seema-Sups talk abt beauty.............I see it this way. Dutta after a lot of thought feels that Seema-Sups betrayed him because THEY THINK they are beautiful and he doesnt deserve them. Seema if I remember also said it on his face ......."Jaake shakal dekh aaine mein .......... " . So its subconciously part of Dutta that he believs he was being ditched because the women were beautiful............. Then came Nakku. She herself told Dutta-Baaji during the car -scene .........that she doesnt feel good abt her looks. Dutta in his dream thinks that Nakku might feel so and so abt herself............that she isnt beautiful and doesnt deserve a husband like Dutta though she loves him dearly. He isnt seeing that dream just from his perspective...........he was seeing it from all the women's perspective........... Thats why I dont think the scene was misplaced . In fact thats exactly how Nakku feels of herself and she told Dutta abt it couple of times I believe........... so why wont he rememebr that in his dream? He will...........</font>

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yaaaaaaa anu i completely agree wid u ..............this dream sequence had a deeper meaning...........and the song was jst perfectwen its on our gadha i love evrything abt it ❤️ 😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sub_rosa

that Dutta too, like other men, had dreamt of a beautiful partner! Physical appearance DID matter to him when it came to love…or rather what he perceived as love! Though it has never been actually SHOWN, but there were subtle hints! Dutta avoided women for 10 years, because he felt susceptible to their charm…feared that he might get entangled again which could lead to another heartbreak! Naku too, is a young woman! But Dutta had no qualms in talking to her for hours, or touching her(even in front of a big audience)! I think Dutta felt completely SAFE around her (in his subconscious)…he knew that he could never get attracted to her…she was nothing like the image he had in his mind of his potential mate!
I have to mention the button-sewing scene here… Dutta was so aloof and so unaware of the young woman standing close to his chest, touching it…almost as if she was not a woman at all! In my opinion, Dutta wouldn't have even opened up to Naku , if she had been in her pretty avatar from day 1…he would certainly have felt threatened by her physical charm!

So, until recently Dutta had nurtured in his mind a superficial view of love…where physical appearance amounted to a lot! But, his experiences with Seema-Sups and then Naku, has forced him to think differently! He is finally learning to see BEYOND outer beauty...and perceive and feel love in a much deeper way! Hence, the beauty-talk in the dream-sequence!



I think that's the issue - some of us (or at least muah for sure) took Dutta to be different then this. His character development and portrayal has shown otherwise. Dutta of ten years ago appreciated beauty - Dutta bhau on the other hand finds beauty in trust and loyalty and friendship - or so it seemed at least. It didn't seem before that it was a trade off in his mind - give up superficial beauty and u must just get lucky with the other three. After watching the late night repeat it just reconfirmed my thoughts this way. When Dutta met Naku he didn't see her as anybody different - he didn't care for the pretty Naku he accidently ran into and saved either - yet now he is subconsciously accepting of her claim of not being beautiful when in the past he has stopped anyone who has mocked Naku for it.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SAraW

now coming to the non- populat status of the song, I m glad again that they didnt go with a popluar number like always. As LTL has been very very conscious abt selecting a Song. Be it Jaanay kya baat hai( old and golden number) ... Laagi tujshe say lagan by Rahat ali khan ( classical song) and now this



But R.A. Khan's song was extremely popular when it came out and for quite some time after. You still hear it even now when watching tv and what not. Past song choices have also been fairly popular ones. And there are some offbeat ones that are awesome too - but just this one I just didn't feel. Even on a repeat hearing.

Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

Didnt she see what her beauty could do to Dutta? ...........he hardly gave her a second glance when he saw her on road one day .......... hope she keeps herself grounded and doesnt go gaga abt her beauty. Hope we dont get to hear such over-dramatic lines from her



Exactly!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: oddgalout



I think that's the issue - some of us (or at least muah for sure) took Dutta to be different then this. His character development and portrayal has shown otherwise. Dutta of ten years ago appreciated beauty - Dutta bhau on the other hand finds beauty in trust and loyalty and friendship - or so it seemed at least. It didn't seem before that it was a trade off in his mind - give up superficial beauty and u must just get lucky with the other three. After watching the late night repeat it just reconfirmed my thoughts this way. When Dutta met Naku he didn't see her as anybody different - he didn't care for the pretty Naku he accidently ran into and saved either - yet now he is subconsciously accepting of her claim of not being beautiful when in the past he has stopped anyone who has mocked Naku for it.



but i dont think dutta has always stopped comments like those coming from sudarshan about nakkus appearance. the emphasis from the fam has alwaybs been on nakku being ugly or/and dark and i think dutta is fully aware in understanding that nakku falls short of beauty ideals. i dont think this means that he necessarily envisions her as ugly,,,but is just aware that she isnt considered stunning. he would be naive to not be aware of this view people have of her.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: oddgalout



But R.A. Khan's song was extremely popular when it came out and for quite some time after. You still hear it even now when watching tv and what not. Past song choices have also been fairly popular ones. And there are some offbeat ones that are awesome too - but just this one I just didn't feel. Even on a repeat hearing.



Exactly!!!



popular or not i felt it was apt for dutta in many ways .. most importantly for the lyrics as they were going in accordance with his complicated feelings .. and was going well with the flow of his dream. but then its my point of view only 😊

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