31/5 and 1/6:Shattered honour and bloodied lives - Page 4

Originally posted by: Khushboo_AN

@Arwen....okay, that name will do! 😉 And that's why I respect Mahinder. ⭐️ That's a good point you've got there. Determination, when used for constructive purposes, can come in real handy. But when it's used for destruction of life....well, let's not go there. And so sorry to hear about the case with that man and your mother. It's true, when you disrespect women it's very easy to forget blood relations. I agree with you too...there's no need to put a "ji" after Daar...but what to do, just because he's mean minded doesn't mean I'm ready to stoop to his level. And Brij cares for his sister only when things are going his way. He's got no respect for her as a human.

No dear....I enjoyed your ramblings a lot! I'm all for feminism and women's emancipation. The thing is, many of us accept this cursed life. If we don't change our own mindsets, then how can we go about changing that of others'? And I know you dislike Daar(ji 😕) but calling him names simply won't help.

actually the name that i gave daarji ... it was a pvt joke😳 but apologies if i offended anyone😳😳😳
I was disgusted last night by that .. that ... whatever ..... his heart didnt melt when both his grown sons were begging him to spare his own grand daughter's life? and when brij said what he did ... he wasnt shook by what he had said but was instead thinking that brij is lying to him?!?!!??! what is that guy made of? he is like an automoton who doesnt give a damn about anyone ... brij ... whatever his faults ... at least the family was convinced tht he wd stop if his grandfather asks him to so there is a shred of something in there but that man ... i hate him and blame him for this mess more than brij ....... more than brij .... i now want him to have his comeuppance and soon ... i now think that brij is just a brain washed idiot ... its that old man who deserves strongest possible condemnations🤢🤢🤢

Originally posted by: Arwen...

bugs education might play a role but not always .... some of these issues crop up in the most educated of families .... enlightenment and education are two different things ... and its worst in the first gen .... things improve in the successive gens ... but not always ..... it is always easier to follow the status quo dont know much abt hindu families but in muslim families .... u wd think that say living in England and being exposed to a broader outlook wd make them look at things differently .... but in recent years there seem to have been alot of cases of Honor killing in England ...... on the other hand ... sometimes a guy born and brought up in a village wd be so open minded and all .... regressive thinking and bigoted views end when the guy is willing to change ... otherwise education wouldnt make any difference

Actually i can speak about what is happening in India. And from whatever i have seen and heard honor killings r done by mostly villagers and small town people. If u see the bolded part i have mentioned both the reasons ..education and the regressive thinking of older generation that is passed to thir successors. Some comes out of that brainwash and some cant even after getting educated. It depends which had a harder impact on u .

U r rite even in a village a person can be open minded ....education does play a role but not a complete role ...and thats what i meant by saying when i mentioned that every family consists of dissimilar personalities. It depends on person to person and their nature and beliefs.
I was just talking about things in general not as a whole cuz u cant reason out the cause of such acts on a whole.

@bugs u r right ,.... every family has dissimilar personalities ..... lack of education+regressive thinking=disaster ... thats what i know ... and when it is education+regressive thinking .... i feel like banging my head against the wall .... bcos u just cant reason with such folks ...... they bcom the biggest upholders of old values and traditions 🤢 urgh .... generally speaking there is no rationale behind such acts ... which makes change seen like a hopeless thing at times .... but once in a while u hear something and r like ... may be things r not so bad .....
for now both are going side by side ... only time will tell which side will finally win

btw ... have u noticed .... in small towns etc ... the ppl most concerned with honor ... and following the old ways ... in short the biggest followers of the most barbaric traditions are always families of standing in their own communities .... the handas in geet for instance .... or generally speaking ... the thakurs or the richest landlords etc .... these r the ppl likeliest to have gained an education and yet 🤢

Fabb post Khushboo! 🤗

@Arwen - Lack of education +regressive thinking = disaster ..in short Brij 😆😆
Yep , and as they have big names and the people smaller look upto them makes them more obsessed with honor and their name as they want to keep up with their goodwill amongst people but then obviously they cross the line of humanity to keep up their reputation which make them dishonored as well.

@Hiba...yeah, hell is indeed too nice a place for them!!!