Originally posted by: Kruthika.N
I completely disagree with you, actually. For once, I was glad seeing someone in the house thinking practically. I don't think Padma's intentions are wrong either. Think about her reasoning. They are surviving on one person's salary to feed 6 people, with 2 babies on the way. They are having trouble paying electricity bills and soon they will have to live in the dark. And most of these problems are because of Pankaj and the Vashishts. If it wasn't for them, Jyoti could've gotten a good job by now and would be able to help her family. But no, ever since the Vashisht name started following her around, she can't get a job anywhere. And one time, when she did manage to find one - Pankaj took that away from her for his own egoistic reasons. And if he's going to start playing dirty now... why can't Jyoti take alimony that is rightfully hers?
Under a normal situation, there would be only 4 people in the house, with no babies on the way. How is it the fault of Pankaj or the Vashisths that Brij used to beat up Sushma to the point that she had to be taken home? If Jyoti had either fessed up to her in-laws about Sushma earlier, or alternatively, had just ignored Sushma altogether and let just Deepu get Sushma home, there would have been 6 people in the house, w/ no Vashisth responsibility for any of it.
The Vashisth name and Pankaj is only responsible for Jyoti's misery, and again, Jyoti wasn't the one who wanted to go back home - it was the others who forced her. Now Padma is complaining about her and her kid being a burden on Deepu. Completely believable, coming from this 🤬 So why should Pankaj or his family be underwriting the operation of the Sharma household?
Originally posted by: Kruthika.N
Let's not compare their situation to the Nanda woman. We really don't know the situation there, and whatever it may be, they chose to spend their money on luxury items. But if Jyoti asks for alimony, it's not like she's going to spend it on a world tour, or a new car. She's going to use that money to feed, clothe, and shelter her family. What's wrong in that?
True
Originally posted by: Kruthika.N
As for Padma thinking Jyoti as a burden and not Sushma, I can sort of see where she's coming from with that. While Sushma is more of a victim in her case, Jyoti has a pretty harsh allegation following her. Not only is her sasural rich and famous, but she's been the one to blame in her situation. And coming to Brij, well I think they gave him the best punishment that they could have, jail. And let's not even get started on Kalpana. Other than free (and bad) advice, she really never has helped the Sharmas with money problems. No matter how much Jyoti said no, Kalpana still could have convinced her by telling her to keep the money as a loan, if she wanted to.
Looking at it from Padma's PoV, had Jyoti ignored Sushma altogether, today she would be comfortably in her sasural, w/ her parents-in-law, hubby & the rest savoring her pregnancy. So it's not like Jyoti is back home completely b'cos of Jyoti, Jyoti is back home b'cos of Sushma. Yeah, Padma did tell Jyoti to ignore Sushma altogether and let her live w/ Brij, but what would she have done had Sushma been done to death? It's not like Sushma ever listened to Deepu in absense of Jyoti.
Agree w/ you on Brij & Kalpana.
Originally posted by: Kruthika.N
Anyway, coming back to the point ' alimony is not wrong in any way, especially if it is going to be used in the Sharma's situation. They need that money. Why should the Vashishts bask in their wealth after practically destroying Jyoti's life forever? Shouldn't they get some sort of punishment for not giving Jyoti a chance to go on leading a life? With some monetary help, Jyoti can not only help her family, but help raise the two children soon coming.
I agree that alimony is not wrong, and I actually want Jyoti to get it and use it. But I want that alimony to be used only for Pankaj's kid, and Jyoti. It shouldn't be the general fund for the entire household, the way Padma is contemplating it. My fear is that if they do start getting alimony, Jyoti is stupid enough to entrust Padma w/ the cash (just like she gave her the money for Sudha's meds, which Padma then hijacked for Sushma to pay the rent) which is why I am w/ QY on this one.
Originally posted by: Kruthika.N
Jyoti of course is being a complete idiot by not caring about her family or her upcoming child. Instead, she is too busy being emotionally-driven and would rather live in darkness rather than ask the Vashishts two cents. Her dialogues in the scene with Deepu were really pathetic; it's hard to believe that Jyoti can be that thick-headed.
Yeah, she's another one of those who puts izzat above all else - due to izzat, she will not only not accept any alimony, but once she remembers that she has Rs 10 lakhs in her a/c, she'll try and return it to Pankaj. She needs to remember that even if she doesn't consider herself worthy of Pankaj's cash, the baby she is carrying does, since it is Pankaj's baby as well. None of these treks about town would be necessary if she simply dipped into her account. Hey, if she just found a good investment advisor, she could just invest that money and just live on the dividends. Just find out who the Vashisth money managers are, and ask them.
In that way, Padma is right for once - why should Deepu, rather than Pankaj, be paying for Jyoti's kid? Note that Pankaj is not likely to mind paying for it - the only cretin who would is Jyoti.
Originally posted by: mahmansma
I think all of you have valid points, but in J's case, she has no one to blame but herself...ditto for Sushma (even more so...coz i can;t imagine an intelligent high school student ruining their entire life this way. It is just pathetic.
That's the reason Jyoti doesn't want to take alimony, nor ask for a divorce.
Originally posted by: mahmansma
I feel that Padma schemes with CM to get Pankaj to send the divorce papers to J. She is really the most shameless creature.
She may be capable of it, but I can't see that happening, given that neither of them can stand each other. CM looks at her like a bustee woman (and I agree w/ CM on that), while she looks at CM as a snob (and she's right as well)
Originally posted by: mahmansma
And no, Pankaj's money should not go to Sushma at all. She will whine and cry and send it to Brij once he is outa jail. Remember how she stole Sandeep's money? She is truly the most irresponsible one here. I pity her baby. What a mom to have!!
Agree w/ this, but if Jyoti agrees to start getting cash from the Vashisths, which she won't, I can't see that being used for just herself and her kid.
Originally posted by: mahmansma
I think Padma and CM will join hands to get P to send J the divorce papers, and for this CM will give Padma some kind of illusion that she will agree to the alimony. Once the papers are signed, CM will back off and J will disagree to fight for that, so Padma will be left high and dry!!
I think CM will be only too happy to toss money their way if she thinks she can get rid of Jyoti. She doesn't appreciate the value of money. It'll be
Jyoti who'll refuse to cash any check. Assuming that CM & Padma
can get together, despite the differences I point out above, I think CM might agree to bypass Jyoti and make it out to Padma, so that at the end of the day, Jyoti, despite her innocence, won't be able to say that her family didn't benefit from alimony payments.
Originally posted by: mahmansma
As Krutika says, lets not even talk about Kalpana coz she is the ROOT cause of all this happening. God save those who go to her clinic.
Yeah, how does a psychologist (I don't think this show knows the difference b/w a psychologist and a psychiatrist), of all people, think that a person will be okay at being deceived, no matter what the reason?
