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I have made this same topic on a different forum, quite a while ago, but I thought it would be interesting to see what folks here would say regarding this:
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The 'Mind' and the 'Physical Body' - separate entities?
Or are they the same?
I was wondering regarding the nature of our mind. Is it a part of our physical body, that is governed by the very same mundane forces that governs everything else? Or is it something spiritual, divine, immaterial, that is beyond the grasp of human beings, which transcends beyond our understanding of this world, transcends space and time, and is a completely different entity than our physical self?
While most religion and theology refers to the mind as a separate entity which transcends beyond this physical world, it is not unknown that psychology and science, now-a-days defines the mind as the same, or almost the same as our body. Due to this aberrant contradiction between the two beliefs, there have been many debates and controversies regarding this mater. However, there are gaps and holes between our understanding regarding both the theories of the science and theology, or so I believe.
I do not think that theology restrict us from believing that the mind has relation or works simultaneously with the body in order to make us conscious of the physical and spiritual aspect of our life. I believe theology merely states that our real consciousness, or force of life (call it 'soul', the 'mind' or 'psyche') is immaterial to the physical world, and our true self is not how we are now, but rather that transcendent 'soul', that exists within us, which had been tied by time and space, but in reality it is beyond both space and time. Theology only claims that such an immaterial force exists, but it doesn't make the claim that all psychological aspects are the works of our soul or mind. It might be that psychological matters like 'thinking', 'sensation', 'perception', etc are works of the physical body, but with the help of that transcendent soul.
Science, on the other hand can now explain various psychological ruts and causes of it, without believing into a supernatural entity like 'soul', but it however, cannot explain the 'life-force' behind every living beings. Science can define the material world pretty well, and with time, the progress of scientific discoveries regarding the physical world had been vast. It however, has few to say about the 'life-force' behind this universe. How can matter, an unconscious or non-living being, be formed into something as conscious as a life, for instance we humans that can question its very existence, and why he feels? Why doesn't artificial intelligence, like an advanced computer or robot feel his existence? If the "I exist" feeling or the living consciousness is only a physical entity that happens in our brain, then isn't AI (artificial intelligence) supposed to be feeling the same way? How come they do not? The only answer could be, that, even if psychological matters like sensation, perception, thinking, are works of the physical body (the brain, mostly), it isn't without the help of a transcendent entity (that is immaterial and not of this world), which apparently the living beings have got, but non-living beings (like Artificial Intelligence), even having proper physical features, doesn't have.
That's my take on the matter of soul and body. Now this is only my own opinion, not a fact, and hence I can be wrong in many aspects. If I'm, I will be glad if anyone corrects them. This thread is open for all to discuss the nature of soul, mind, the physical body, the relation and connections between them, whether they are the same entity, or separate...
With kind regards,
Labib
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The 'Mind' and the 'Physical Body' - separate entities?
Or are they the same?
I was wondering regarding the nature of our mind. Is it a part of our physical body, that is governed by the very same mundane forces that governs everything else? Or is it something spiritual, divine, immaterial, that is beyond the grasp of human beings, which transcends beyond our understanding of this world, transcends space and time, and is a completely different entity than our physical self?
While most religion and theology refers to the mind as a separate entity which transcends beyond this physical world, it is not unknown that psychology and science, now-a-days defines the mind as the same, or almost the same as our body. Due to this aberrant contradiction between the two beliefs, there have been many debates and controversies regarding this mater. However, there are gaps and holes between our understanding regarding both the theories of the science and theology, or so I believe.
I do not think that theology restrict us from believing that the mind has relation or works simultaneously with the body in order to make us conscious of the physical and spiritual aspect of our life. I believe theology merely states that our real consciousness, or force of life (call it 'soul', the 'mind' or 'psyche') is immaterial to the physical world, and our true self is not how we are now, but rather that transcendent 'soul', that exists within us, which had been tied by time and space, but in reality it is beyond both space and time. Theology only claims that such an immaterial force exists, but it doesn't make the claim that all psychological aspects are the works of our soul or mind. It might be that psychological matters like 'thinking', 'sensation', 'perception', etc are works of the physical body, but with the help of that transcendent soul.
Science, on the other hand can now explain various psychological ruts and causes of it, without believing into a supernatural entity like 'soul', but it however, cannot explain the 'life-force' behind every living beings. Science can define the material world pretty well, and with time, the progress of scientific discoveries regarding the physical world had been vast. It however, has few to say about the 'life-force' behind this universe. How can matter, an unconscious or non-living being, be formed into something as conscious as a life, for instance we humans that can question its very existence, and why he feels? Why doesn't artificial intelligence, like an advanced computer or robot feel his existence? If the "I exist" feeling or the living consciousness is only a physical entity that happens in our brain, then isn't AI (artificial intelligence) supposed to be feeling the same way? How come they do not? The only answer could be, that, even if psychological matters like sensation, perception, thinking, are works of the physical body (the brain, mostly), it isn't without the help of a transcendent entity (that is immaterial and not of this world), which apparently the living beings have got, but non-living beings (like Artificial Intelligence), even having proper physical features, doesn't have.
That's my take on the matter of soul and body. Now this is only my own opinion, not a fact, and hence I can be wrong in many aspects. If I'm, I will be glad if anyone corrects them. This thread is open for all to discuss the nature of soul, mind, the physical body, the relation and connections between them, whether they are the same entity, or separate...
With kind regards,
Labib
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