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Posted: 20 years ago
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why are woman expected to be more loyal than men? i don't understand that 😕
Woman and men are supposed to be equal, right? so then why this?
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Posted: 20 years ago
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mkzara you are 17 right !!! Very maturely put thoughts !! 👏

indiaforums1234 - I'm not sure what you mean as" biological factors" . Which biology / science book says that men have more uncontrollable urges than women ?????? They may have urges - some times women have more urges than men - in most cases its known as men. But that doesn't mean the urge is uncontrolable !!!
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Posted: 20 years ago
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mkzara you are 17 right !!! Very maturely put thoughts !! 👏

indiaforums1234 - I'm not sure what you mean as" biological factors" . Which biology / science book says that men have more uncontrollable urges than women ?????? They may have urges - some times women have more urges than men - in most cases its known as men. But that doesn't mean the urge is uncontrolable !!!
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: mkzara

I understand that there are biological factors but like the whole proof of us being able to say oh we have evolved was that we can control the natural urges and impulses. Yes some of them cannot be controlled such as "fight or flight" but we can think rationally (for most of us) and we dont have random sex (again most of us) but we think things through which is why we are a little smarter than animal so a man should also be able to do the same, he should think with his brain not with his- well u know what i mean. i think yeah men have more urges but they are capable of controlling them.



I never said that men are not able to control biological urges. What I was trying to say that you guys are stressing too much on environmental factors.

Biological factors such as genetics and hormones also influence us and therefore should not be ignored. We may have become civilized, but we are still animals. About hormones, testosterone specially is found in larger amounts in males which makes them more agreesive and therefore men have more sexual urges. To understand the influence of genetics, look into evolutionary psychology for more information.
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: indiaforums1234



I never said that men are not able to control biological urges. What I was trying to say that you guys are stressing too much on environmental factors.

Biological factors such as genetics and hormones also influence us and therefore should not be ignored. We may have become civilized, but we are still animals. About hormones, testosterone specially is found in larger amounts in males which makes them more agreesive and therefore men have more sexual urges. To understand the influence of genetics, look into evolutionary psychology for more information.



I previously compared a sexual urgency to a need to empty the bladder urgency !! Its like if as an adult you know its embarrasing to wet your pants and will hold your self and wait to realive in an appropriate place. Thats how a sexual urge it is ...............you could be a man or woman but when you know its not appropriate , you will control it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!y
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: indiaforums1234

To answer this question, you have to take the evolutionary biological processes into account. When it comes to reproduction, it is more costly for women than men. Women produce only one egg per month and after it is fertilized, they have to carry the baby for nine months. That's a lot of work which is why when women choose a partner, they make that decision after a lot of thinking. Thus, women are more attached to their children than men are therefore more loving and caring. That is also the reason why they are more likely to stay loyal.

In animal world, for a male, the more partners he has, the greater the fitness and the more dominant he is in the group. However, that has changed for humans as we became more civilized and monogamy has resulted. But those instincts are still in us.

However, I would not deny the fact that men have taken advantage of these qualities in women.

What u said is sooo true...its really well explained 👏.....well i think that women are definetly more consciously aware ...the guilt comes easier to them and its not that easy to commit a crime or do something thats against principles...but u cannot completely attribute this to her nature,i think society also plays a major role in making her believe that shes supposed to be the goody goody one and all that when she also sometimes wants to break free and savour her freedom and do things that sometimes society may not consider morally right when the same things done by a man dont seem that bad..so i can say over the years the women is taken for granted by not only the men but by society in general

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Thanks Traveller. 😊

As I said earlier, environment plays a major role in shaping gender roles, but our instincts also sometimes kick in and may affect us (consciously or involuntarily).
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Posted: 20 years ago
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hey no prob.. 😊 but what i dont understand is whether this image is beneficial to us or not..i mean i guess its nice being the good one...but hows it in the long run?when ppl continue to take us for granted dont u think its advantageous to try to change it ,gradually so that ppl stop thinking that they can do anything wheras we shd stay restricted in whatever we do..
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aparna_BD

mkzara you are 17 right !!! Very maturely put thoughts !! 👏



Thank you very much. i agree with aparna about the fact that sometimes you have to control your natural urges because they r inappropriate and that is true for all people. i mean yeah men have more testosterone and that makes them more aggressive and i get that but i know tons of good men who would control their urges because its the right thing to do. so why should some men be allowed to say "its nature baby u can't mess with nature". yeah women control their urges better but that's a little due to biology and mostly due to society. i understand the biological factors but i also understand that as humans we have evolved enough to "usually" control our basic instincts so i wud like to say that biology doesn't affect that much because we can control most of it but society does and wat they do is wrong because they have a double standard for men and women and cheating by either shudn't be permissible because biology shudn't be used an excuse to justify wrongs.
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