Child Protection should be stronger?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Over the years, read so many articles about Children being killed for various reasons. I don't even complete reading one article because as soon as i see headline and first few lines i just curse and then skip the page as don't know why i really hate reading such sad articles. I just angry at the people who kill these children.
I get even more angry reading when a child has been mauled to death by a dog. 😡 It makes me feel are these people stupid or something? I mean especially babies should be looked after as well anything to could happen to a child in a split second.
I think if there is a new born baby or well anything young children in the house parents should not keep dogs no matter how tame they are - anything could happen. Or atleast keep them no where near children esp babies until children are over a certain age, as no matter how responsible carer is - the risk of something happening - not worth it? Also later dogs put down - seriously wth is the point - the child has already died - its not going to bring the baby back
I am really against dogs😳 because they can do anything. Yesterday a baby boy died after being attacked by 2 Dogs -Article below.
Jaden Mack
Jaden Mack, aged three-and-a-half-months, was declared dead in hospital
look how cuteee he was...
Also horrifying incident here of Baby P - who suffered horrific abuse, but Haringey Council in North London, which was criticised in the Victoria Climbie case, never took him into care.

This was despite the fact that he had been put on the "at-risk" register and had 60 contacts with health and social work professionals and police over eight months.

Baby P had a broken back, cracked ribs, numerous cuts and bruises.
So many more unheard cases where children have died.
So should Governments step up child protection? How?
btw whats your stand on Animals and Babies in the house? Because there have been SO many cases of this happening even tho advice given to dog owners is " that dogs should never be left unsupervised with young children at any time."
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Posted: 17 years ago
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SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't it said pet cats are absolutely no no when there are infants in the house around... also clearly mentione in the article "we would like to reiterate the advice given to dog owners that dogs should never be left unsupervised with young children at any time." thats the key... one cann't let the baby crawl in the driveway in the first, rather then blaming cars for any mishaps later... it is negligence from care takers(sorry but that the fact)... after all pets are animals... in today's world when even humans cann't be trusted (so many cases of servants abusing kids...atleast in Mumbai) why trust pets.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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That's awful.

Its sad how people and animals are put on the same level in today's age. People are losing their mind and we claim that the world is "progressing", one cannot be so foolish and allow such things to happen. Are humans taking other humans' lives not enough that now we have pets doing the same?


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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: raj5000

SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Isn't it said pet cats are absolutely no no when there are infants in the house around... also clearly mentione in the article "we would like to reiterate the advice given to dog owners that dogs should never be left unsupervised with young children at any time."
Not sure about cats - but im against all Animals with baby - no matter how well trained pets are or how careful owners are. But cats really scratch anyways and yeah i pasted tht also off BBC about dogs....are ppl stupid?
thats the key... one cann't let the baby crawl in the driveway in the first, rather then blaming cars for any mishaps later... it is negligence from care takers(sorry but that the fact)...
@red bold - yupp i absoloutely agree....thats the fact - it is carelessness - u cant tuen ur bk for one minute with baby esp newborns and something to happen to it - anything could - like cot deaths and all let alone frigging animals jumping on it.
after all pets are animals... in today's world when even humans cann't be trusted (so many cases of servants abusing kids...atleast in Mumbai) why trust pets.
yh i agreee and Sorry the only thing i would trust with a baby is fish in a fish tank - even then it will probably be my baby one day scaring the fishes and feeding it fish and chips 😆😆😆 rather than the fishes scaring the baby.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

That's awful.

Its sad how people and animals are put on the same level in today's age. People are losing their mind and we claim that the world is "progressing", one cannot be so foolish and allow such things to happen. Are humans taking other humans' lives not enough that now we have pets doing the same?


I know its awful and makes me hate dogs even more than i already do. (sorry dog lovers)
i know people are losing their minds because they treat pets as humans and like babies - gosh. Sorry my baby would come before any animal and even if husband or anyone wanted a dog - it would be a choice between me or the dog 😆😆😆 sorry no way jose would i let a dog/cat into my home.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Yeah it was very upsetting to hear about that little baby and the 2 dogs attacking him, you would think that the goverment would have tightend up on childprotection, after all these cases but no they dont. I dont like dogs, but if i was ever to have one i would not let my child keep one has a pet, especially at that age i would wait until they are at least a few yrs of age and get a small puppy. That can do no harm to them.

As for Baby P, wat those ppl but that innocent child threw was hourrendous 😡 and those ppl deserve everything they get thrown at them!


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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sujal_Fan_No1

Yeah it was very upsetting to hear about that little baby and the 2 dogs attacking him, you would think that the goverment would have tightend up on childprotection, after all these cases but no they dont. I dont like dogs, but if i was ever to have one i would not let my child keep one has a pet, especially at that age i would wait until they are at least a few yrs of age and get a small puppy. That can do no harm to them.

As for Baby P, wat those ppl but that innocent child threw was hourrendous 😡 and those ppl deserve everything they get thrown at them!


Yeah it makes me angry - i would have thoight after all these tragoc cases which ARE increasing, that dog owners would be more careful and Govt would have done something on child protections for all sorts of situations. I don't like dogs either so would never even contemplate getting any kind but yeah if i did like them and had one it would be when child is more grown up - i.e. 8 yrs and over. Its dogs teeth im worried about - urghhh look at them and compare them to a babie's legs or arms or even a child's. I mean if you run dig thinks your playing a game and chase yoou
Yeah Baby P case was shocking, whats more is that it took campaigns for the newspapers to get the people sacked. 😡
Even more sad - all those children who die/suffer and no one knows about them. There was another girl - asian -

A TINY baby was left deaf and blind after a cruel couple subjected her to horrific abuse.

She eventually developed cerebral palsy when they failed to get medical help after she caught meningitis.

The tot, now 23 months old, will suffer mental problems all her life, a court heard yesterday

Theres so many cases of child abuse by parents its shocking - i dont understand it, if you don't want your child , don't harm it and don't kill it, give it into care for a better life. I get sad...all those children who can't even speak, no one hears their cries and if they do think its usual baby cries when actually they are suffering from bruises and broken limbs
Even though the sun isnt the most intellectual newspaper atleast it highlights these casesand gets action taken on things, whereas the other newspapers do NOTHING.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I agree with u anon, but if ppl arent ready to have a child they shouldnt bring one into the world and then treat it like a little plastic doll. At least they wont have to go threw all that suffering.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Why are poor dogs being blamed for irresponsible pet owners and parents. I grew up with cats and dogs. There has not been a moment in my life from birth to now without animals. I have been knocked down by an over friendly Great Dane and bitten by a guard dog right in the chin. Yet I can safely say that I will trust an animal and stake my life for an animal more than a human being.

Dogs are the the surest and best protection you can really get for a child. I know several people who have dogs that prevent kids from wandering off out on streets, trying to touch flames or simply go where not supposed to. If you have a good old dog walking with your kids and teens you can assure they will be safe from creepy people, safer than any human guardian. When I was twelve, me and my six year old sister decided to take a walk to the nearby creek one evening. Part of the path went to a secluded area. Suddenly we see a man with his junk hanging out the pants and he tried to make a grab at me. My dog snarled and nipped him in the end. He backed of and did not bother us.

I have a big old noisy coonhound now. And let me tell you, you aint takin a step on der porch at night without rousin up my beast. Forget the porch, you aint passin our lawn without me dog knowin.

Yes I am the kind of person who if forced to make a choice between a child and a pet, I would say "You der take yer child and be off. My mutt aint goin nowehere" As the movie said - Must Love Dogs.

However, I understand pets are not everybody's cup of tea. Pets just like children are a tremendous responsibility. If you do not have that natural knack and love for animals, you probably will not be able to raise them right.

Cats and cat litter can be allergic to some kids. That does not mean you need to get rid of your cats. Hypoallergenic cat litter is available. Install a good air purifier and your pediatrician can prescribe some anti-allergens. Hypoallergenic bedding is also available for kids and grown ups. Same goes for dogs. Most infants will grow out of pet allergies through exposure.

Other than that you do not have to worry about cats and babies. If you are worried get your cat declawed. Young kittens will be curious about kids and like to cuddle up, older cats will avoid the kids and just find a sunny spot to be alone.

For those with dogs and planning to have a baby. Cesar Milan's website, books and DVD's have tremoundous resources for planning to introduce a baby to an older dog. Canines are naturally more nurturing than felines, and if introductions are done right your dog will love your baby like its own.

One thing to remember is there is a critical difference between human nurturing and canine nurturing. Humans nurture weakness, canines weed out weakness to secure the pack. A human babies or infants constant crying, illnesses etc can be considered a weakness causing dogs to want to weed the weakness out. Wolf hyrbids are notorious for this reaction, the more wild genetics in the dog the more likely it is. Also babies shrill sounds and sudden movements can terrify a dog. Sometimes a dog may nip in fear, but being canines they cause fatal injuries. Needless to say babies and dogs should never be left alone unsupervised.

However, if Trojan failed you and you did not employ Spartan then Canine might be your next best bet.

But once again I reiterate, if you cannot put in the time energy and responsibility to lovingly raise pets and children, do not get a pet. If you may consider giving a pet away when you have a child, if you are not committed to make it work -do not get a pet. If you are like me - do not get a child.

Now for human irresponsibility - there is just no excuse. Why get a child if you cannot look after it. I can forgive people taking in pets and giving them up since they could not handle it. I can forgive people for giving away pets when they have a child. But seriously there is no excuse for child abuse or neglect, and we need to harshen the sentening for that.


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