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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: raj5000


Well agree @ bold, so that means even buying any product even if that is a famous pickle brand from countries where terrorists belong is not right and make a significant difference in our fight against terrorrism?



I have not bought anything made there. So...

But don't take that sentence out of context. I was making a point that we say let politicians handle it and let us go enjoy a game of Cricket now. That is wrong. As I mentioned, the timing is wrong. In future of course we will play but right now this is what our stand should be.
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Raj, a lot of people in both Indian and paki communities here do not give their business to shopowners of other community - whether groceries or catering from a restaurant. It's more to do with nationalistic pride and helping your own but given current scenario, I wouldn't be surprised if more and more Indians living overseas totally stop buying paki goods from paki shops. We shop at Indian owned grocery stores and eat at Indian restaurants and so do a lot of our friends.

i think pakistanis who are staying out of their country should not bear the grudge bcoz they have got nothing to do with terrorist attack or the wearabouts of their country they r the citizens of that country so y should they suffer.
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: sandya_rao7

i think pakistanis who are staying out of their country should not bear the grudge bcoz they have got nothing to do with terrorist attack or the wearabouts of their country they r the citizens of that country so y should they suffer.

Well, a lot of pakistani charities were busted post 9/11 for funneling in money to outfits like al qaida and other terror spreading outfits. People had no clue where the money, that they spent in paki stores, ended up with. That was one big eye opener.
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Well, a lot of pakistani charities were busted post 9/11 for funneling in money to outfits like al qaida and other terror spreading outfits. People had no clue where the money, that they spent in paki stores, ended up with. That was one big eye opener.



ye u r right, u never know who does what?
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Raj, a lot of people in both Indian and paki communities here do not give their business to shopowners of other community - whether groceries or catering from a restaurant. It's more to do with nationalistic pride and helping your own but given current scenario, I wouldn't be surprised if more and more Indians living overseas totally stop buying paki goods from paki shops. We shop at Indian owned grocery stores and eat at Indian restaurants and so do a lot of our friends.

As far as I learnt its like, more business referals to people you are acquainted with not strictly based on Nationality. Anyways I wouldn't stop at 7/11 or gas station to learn the Nationality of the owner before deciding to do business with, I don't know but sounds very weird, specially when all big desi grocery stores carry stuff from both countries. Also regarding point you mentioned about funding from businesses for terrorist activities, that is not entirely true. Funds are initiated and collected from religious based organisations in the name of humanitarian cause and later in most cases mis-utilized, whose mistake? Are donations taken in the name of killing innocent brothers/sisters back home, do you think in that case anyone will be willing to donate. Gauri reason am making this convo. to just point out, what even you agree on in some posts, these small small things sey nothing gonna change, stratergic/diplomatic solution is viable/impact here.
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Maya_M



I have not bought anything made there. So...

But don't take that sentence out of context. I was making a point that we say let politicians handle it and let us go enjoy a game of Cricket now. That is wrong. As I mentioned, the timing is wrong. In future of course we will play but right now this is what our stand should be.

😆 You check all the 'made in xyz' tags before shopping...jsut started now or from before.... @context - no no no... I am with you on wrong timing / security issues and for future this is not a permanent stand then am 😊
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: raj5000

As far as I learnt its like more business to people you are acquainted with not strictly based on Nationality. Anyways I wouldn't stop at 7/11 or gas station to learn the Nationality of the owner before deciding to business with, I don't know but sounds very weird, specially when all big desi grocery stores carry stuff from both countries. Also regarding point you mentioned about funding from businesses, that is not entirely true. Funds are initiated and collected from religious based oragnisations in the name of humatrian cause and later in most cases mis-utilized, whose mistake? Are donations taken in the name of killing innocent brothers/sisters back home, do you think in that case anyone will be willing to donate. Gauri reason am making convo. to just point out what even you agree on in some posts, these small small things sey nothing gonna change, stratergic/diplomatic solution is viable here.

You can't compare stopping on your way for gas to recurring purchases like grocery shopping and eating out in your neighborhood restaurants. I know nothing major will change by these small small things but they sure do indicate the feelings of a community. If Boond boond sey banta sagar then boond boond nikal leney sey khatm bhi toh ho sakta hai sagar😊
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

You can't compare stopping on your way for gas to recurring purchases like grocery shopping and eating out in your neighborhood restaurants. I know nothing major will change by these small small things but they sure do indicate the feelings of a community. If Boond boond sey banta sagar then boond boond nikal leney sey khatm bhi toh ho sakta hai sagar😊

Just noticed your siggy and am like 😆😆 u actually updated it😆. Feelings to communicate ho rahi via media/blogs/forums/convo etc... but how effectively pata nahi. Tour cancellation email mey toh kuch likhna thaa inn logo ney with full transperancy par wonder kya hua, anyways @ Boond Boond, I just have one concern agar boond nikalney ka motive sab ki samjh mey nahi aayaa toh I fear joo neutral overhead tanks hai woh yeh sukhey ko dekhkar fatt key samudar mey jaakey nah milley, especialy when gumrah karney waley aiseyhi mokey ki talash mey rahtey hai. Hope app mey baat ko samjh rahi hai, if not.. then forget it... pani dalo and close karo😆...I do hear yaa point.
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Posted: 17 years ago
Gauri,
Not that all products that emerge from Pakistan are bad!
Noor Jehan's greatest gift was not bothering with 'perfection' pressures thrust upon celebrities.

Noor Jehan's death seven years ago on December 23 wasn't that of an individual but of an institution. It brought an entire era to an abrupt end.
Madam Noor Jehan's name evokes countless articles, books, discussions but strangely anecdotes and analysis don't reveal the real person. Some praise her without knowing much about her while others vilify her on hearsay. Most know of her seven decades of theatrics both on reel and in real life without realising the struggle, dedication, perseverance and sacrifices she made to get there.
From a miserly past of poverty and ill-fame, she conquered the subcontinent and rose to glory, wealth and undying stardom.
Fame-literate feminist, progressive, liberal, an iconoclast and not just a singer, Noor Jehan was the last century's bona fide icon. Defying the '40s specified norms, she broke every rule and not only stood up for herself as emotionally self-reliant but made her personality such that people pined for more of her. Affable in a coterie of silver screen actresses where all the women were tarred with the same brush, Noor Jehan's witty retorts, calculated intimacy, self-deprecating manner combined with the immense self-confidence of a woman who had seen and experienced everything made her flagrantly eclectic.
Bombay not only made Noor Jehan an unrivalled artiste but also trained her in the art of coquetry. She learnt from senior actresses of the day who faded in the mist of history but left traces of their fiery and spunky personalities in the upcoming heroine who was to conquer stardom. Miss Jahan Ara Kajan, Mumtaz Shanti, Akhtari Bai, Kajjan Bai, Sabiha Khanum's mother Babo, Saira Bano's mother pari-chehra Nasim, Nargis' mother Jadan Bai, Khursheed aka Anuradha and Rasheeda alias Pushpa Rani ' all these actresses were not only elegant in dress but had perfect manners, spoke flawless Urdu and perfected the art of seduction.
Neither embarrassed of her love affairs nor cautious about personal wars, Madam Noor Jehan defiantly admitted her loves and hates. With selective amnesia she conveniently wrote off past conquests, and though an undisputed singer, her personal life was controversial
In the early days before song-recording became available, singers had to accompany actors on location and sing from behind the camera. Later, when recording techniques became available, singers had to start all over again if a musician made a mistake. Throughout the '40s Noor Jehan continued making films and playback singing. Awaz De Kahan Hai, 1946 super-hit song from Anmol Ghari became synonymous with Noor Jehan. In 1959 Nigar Awards introduced the best singer category and the first award went to Noor Jehan for the film Koel's Dil Ka Diya Jalaya composed by the genius Khursheed Anwar and written by Tanveer Naqvi. She won again in 1967, '69, '71, '90 and '91.
Neither embarrassed of her love affairs nor cautious about personal wars she defiantly admitted her loves and hates. With selective amnesia she conveniently wrote off past conquests, and though an undisputed singer, her personal life was controversial.
Noor Jehan's greatest gift was not bothering with 'perfection' pressures thrust upon celebrities. Heads of states were equally fascinated with her singing talent just as much as ordinary folks such as housewives, businessmen, cooks, drivers, students, and cinephiles.
When Noor Jehan met Indira Gandhi, the then Prime Minister of India in Delhi's Rashtrapati Bhavan, she smiled at Mrs Gandhi and said, 'I was so eager to meet you.' Indira Gandhi replied, 'You were eager to meet me? My entire nation is eager to meet you!'
Is'nt that cute?
From the example, can we have some selective amnesia from the past and invite the Pakistani cricketers for the next ICL games? Perhaps our relations would have thawed by then.

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Edited by jagdu - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: raj5000

You check all the 'made in xyz' tags before shopping...jsut started now or from before.... @context - no no no... I am with you on wrong timing / security issues and for future this is not a permanent stand then am 😊[/DIV]



Arre nahin re! 😆 I never liked Shaan Masala. I always have a set of things I buy from Indian stores so I never bothered to buy anything from there.

Actually I don't have a problem in buying any Pakistani product. The scenario according to me is different.

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