why we lack talent in a country of billion - Page 5

Originally posted by: kiti_g

ID, I

As for Bilaskhani Todi, Komal Re Asavari and BHairavi, well they are all part of Bhairavi thaat and very very similar. BUt the alaap at the start sung by Ashaji is the very essence and defining point of Bilaskhani Todi and immediately gives away the raga.

Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

Pritam played the Bengali card. He promissed Ash and didn't choose her but choose Bengali Anwesha. Pritam is now backing Bengali Deobjit.

As nonBengali I hate this kind of neopotism. Pritam should remember that he makes his money and fame from nonBengalis, this kind of neoptism will back fire.

I hope non-Bengali music director have songs by Ash..

Please don't jump on me because I like Ash more than Anwensha. I find Ash's voice melodious and full of passion, somewhat like Sherya's. Where as Anwensha for me is very mechanical

Originally posted by: rock&roll

I don't think that talent makes much of difference wrt making it big in bollywood..It might hv mattered 20-30 yrs ago,but not today.........Wht matters is how well ppl can sell their talent(or whtever little they hv of it) ,how much exposure they can get and to what extent one is willing to take crap from these reality shows in return for that "exposure"..Nihira doesn't seem to be cut out for this kind of thing.........I hv not seen her appear in a single musical reality show after SRGMP....whereas i hv seen almost all other winners/runners up of music shows in some show or the other fighting,clawing,bitching, cribbing,crying,screaming, acting, begging for votes and basically doing everything other than singing.......Isn't it obvious than one has to do all this to get exposure......

Also the compteition is very very cut thraot..Even the supremely talented Shreya Ghoshal needed a Godfather (read Sanjay Leela Bhansali )to give her a break.......Not everyone has such luck.....Another extremely talented singer-Parthiv Gohil(Yoon Shabnami fame-Saawariya) had to wait for 10 long years before he got to sing in Hindi films ..The funny thing is that ppl heard abt him only after he sung this song which hardly did justice to his incredible talent.....A contestant as gifted as Mohd Vakil is hardly seen in the Hindi film scenario....Bela Shinde(again winner SRGMP ) waits almost 10 years again before rendering a song for A.R.R in Jodha Akbar......and then fades into oblivion even before we can who she is...coz this song was not promoted !!!!On the other hand we have a horribly off sur "bakhuda" and a positive ear sore "jhalak dikhlaja" topping the charts....Do we still need proof that real talent is not recognized/appreciated?As ReemaAnshuji rightly said"we do not dereve talent"...With the likes of HR and Atif being accepted and gaining credibilty as singers and repeatedly giving chartbusters.,real "singers" shld call it a day.....MD s openly declare that they sur machines to correct off sur notes......When even sur is not reqd for singing,then we def do not need trained singers here....Who wld ever spend time and money to learn music.....Better idea wld be to invest in a ur taal correcting machine and release an album(fast bucks😆😆😆)

I guess somehow we think that success means making it big in bollywood...most of the SRGM winners i hv mentioned above run their own troupes and sing/compose their own songs......They r making money but r not getting the fame "bollywood" singers get...But maybe they r actually getting more satisfaction this way...After all Sonu Nigam has also claimed that Bollywood songs do not give him satisfaction......So maybe the really talented lot shld stay out of bollywood for their own good and leave bollywood to the sur correcting machines and "naak mein dum"singers...😆.....and the few who r interested in gud music shld check out the albums /shows of the really gud singers....😃

A couple of performances of Parhiv gohil and Nihira in June 2006

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=4XVyFoj2AjU

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=ISYzlIwFYyw

Originally posted by: rock&roll

I don't think that talent makes much of difference wrt making it big in bollywood..It might hv mattered 20-30 yrs ago,but not today.........Wht matters is how well ppl can sell their talent(or whtever little they hv of it) ,how much exposure they can get and to what extent one is willing to take crap from these reality shows in return for that "exposure"..Nihira doesn't seem to be cut out for this kind of thing.........I hv not seen her appear in a single musical reality show after SRGMP....whereas i hv seen almost all other winners/runners up of music shows in some show or the other fighting,clawing,bitching, cribbing,crying,screaming, acting, begging for votes and basically doing everything other than singing.......Isn't it obvious than one has to do all this to get exposure......

Also the compteition is very very cut thraot..Even the supremely talented Shreya Ghoshal needed a Godfather (read Sanjay Leela Bhansali )to give her a break.......Not everyone has such luck.....Another extremely talented singer-Parthiv Gohil(Yoon Shabnami fame-Saawariya) had to wait for 10 long years before he got to sing in Hindi films ..The funny thing is that ppl heard abt him only after he sung this song which hardly did justice to his incredible talent.....A contestant as gifted as Mohd Vakil is hardly seen in the Hindi film scenario....Bela Shinde(again winner SRGMP ) waits almost 10 years again before rendering a song for A.R.R in Jodha Akbar......and then fades into oblivion even before we can who she is...coz this song was not promoted !!!!On the other hand we have a horribly off sur "bakhuda" and a positive ear sore "jhalak dikhlaja" topping the charts....Do we still need proof that real talent is not recognized/appreciated?As ReemaAnshuji rightly said"we do not dereve talent"...With the likes of HR and Atif being accepted and gaining credibilty as singers and repeatedly giving chartbusters.,real "singers" shld call it a day.....MD s openly declare that they sur machines to correct off sur notes......When even sur is not reqd for singing,then we def do not need trained singers here....Who wld ever spend time and money to learn music.....Better idea wld be to invest in a ur taal correcting machine and release an album(fast bucks😆😆😆)

I guess somehow we think that success means making it big in bollywood...most of the SRGM winners i hv mentioned above run their own troupes and sing/compose their own songs......They r making money but r not getting the fame "bollywood" singers get...But maybe they r actually getting more satisfaction this way...After all Sonu Nigam has also claimed that Bollywood songs do not give him satisfaction......So maybe the really talented lot shld stay out of bollywood for their own good and leave bollywood to the sur correcting machines and "naak mein dum"singers...😆.....and the few who r interested in gud music shld check out the albums /shows of the really gud singers....😃

A couple of performances of Parhiv gohil and Nihira in June 2006

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=4XVyFoj2AjU

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=ISYzlIwFYyw

Originally posted by: trishanku3

By the way Nihira did get a chance to host the Marathi Saregamapa recently(I'm not sure seniors or juniors)

Originally posted by: April2007

Yaar April, I dont think this regional card holds good hear. It could be possible but I always believe that benefit of doubt should alsways be given. We dont know what is the bind the scenes thing, there could be so many possibilities - 1) There could be contract related issues with aishwarya winning 2) there could be availability issues 3) Maybe Kareena would have said that I want an established voice and hence Akriti while Anwesha sang for Amrita, who cant dictate anything at this stage in her career.

How can you say that he dropped he coz she was non bengali ? We can say something so grave only if we are sure.

As far as Debojit goes, well then firstly he is of his gharana and more than Bengali, i think Pritam sees himself in Debo with the stammer and the isolation issue. So I dont think he is doing that coz he is Bengali.

Lets give him the benefit of doubt.