Does 'Twilight' Suck The Brains ...Article

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Posted: 17 years ago
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hey guys,
i signed into my msn and on the windows live today it showed there is news going around about our addicting and very much loved twilight series...some thing its an obsession and teen girls should NOT be able to read and watch the books or the upcoming movies...heres the link and lemme know what you feel about it...i disagree completely because they didnt do any of this crap with harry potter....
sukhi :)
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Posted: 17 years ago
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omg!
i disagree wid dem too.
they cant just say dat!
i mean,they didnt start anything like that wid harry potter.
and the author who wrote all that stuff about twilight and that she thinks it sucks,she's just jealous of stephenie and that how much more fame she has then her!
this is just crazy!
these kind of articles are only made just to make news!ugh!
whoever wrote that article has no life.
that author herself cant even write a book like twilight,so she got jealous and helped in making this article.
whoever made this article,alot of people are rlly gonna hate u!!!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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That artical is totally uncalled for and i completely disagree with it.
Twilight is a great series of books and hopefully the movie will do some justice to the book too.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I read it on MSN yesterday...people are so paranoid for nothing...
I think having high standards (super high as Edward quality boy friend) is always good...and the morals and values that Edward has are good for this new generation who jump into relationships and physical intimacy without thinking, without much care for their partner...
Bella is very honest and independent..She doesn't like expensive gifts and never takes undue advantages..she cooks for her father...a good student...reads a lot...she is an ideal 18 year old..
Jake teaches how to sacrifice for the people you love...how to smile even when you are in pain because it would make your loved ones feel better...
So if anything twilight would help younger kids to grow up as a nice human being..unlike the author of this article...
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Posted: 17 years ago
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the author of the article had his brain sucked : )
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Posted: 17 years ago
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WTF?!?!(I usually never say this....but just had to!!😡!!)

*Firstly,yes there may be sci-fi books for us to be reading,as it improves our knowledge about the wrold...blah,blah,blah...I'm not disagreeing witht hat matter....but one has to agree with me whn I say that when it comes down to reading a well-written book,with an extraordinary plot that binds the reader from the very fist sentece all the way through...how amny books are actually there that do this?Many of them consist of the samo samo plot summaries...so it gets tedious and boring...but the Twilight series they are definitely something else....yes,they do consist of the mythical creatures such as warewolves and vampires,but these creatures have a different appeal about them...the reason these books r so enticing😛
*For the lady who said "Edward is a complete prig!":Are you just being jealous because you haven't seem to found the complete prig in your previous boyfriends?I agree,it's not something that everyone is going to have...and when u say that girls are going to want these qualities in their boyfriends...well,let's look at it this way....differnt gilrs favor differnt things...but I don't think many of the young ladies who do read these books are ignorant enough to think there is really such a guy as Edward Cullen out there...because it does seem irrational...in fact,these kinds of guys only seem good in these books...he the epitomy of perfection,but if u ask me most of us would get really annoyed having to deal with someone that perfect...I wouldn't be able to handle it...I'd get irritated😆😆So...let's leave Edward Cullen's perfection out of this...as there is NO guy alive to match Edward's perfection....it just won't ever happen😉
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There's literally so much I have to say...so I'll come ack in a one or two days to finish of our little debate😆

*Will EDIT soon*
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Seriously people, calm down. Just like you have the right to like the book and not be called stupid for your opinion, the lady in the article has the right to dislike the book and not be called stupid for her opinion. It's a free world.
Whoever said that the lady in question wouldn't be able to write something like Twilight - obviously, you haven't read fanfiction of Twilight. Breaking Dawn is EXACTLY like the 1000+ fanfictions out there where Bella+Edward get married, have a baby, Bella drops out of college and live freakishly happy ever after.
And to someone who said that Bella is an ideal 18 year old - you joking? Bella went to a crappier college just so she could be near her beloved. She dropped out of college just to get married/raise a baby. Are these the values and morales you want to instill in your children? 😕 You want them popping out kids before they are even 20, dropping out of college, having no career simply because they *love* this seemingly "perfect" guy? That's heartwarming to know. Hermione is a better role model, because despite having *character flaws* like being extremely bossy sometimes bordering on annoying (very believable, IMO!), she's capable of taking care of herself and packing a powerful slap unlike damsel-in-distress Bella who usually is very dependant on Edward/Jacob and needs to be rescued.
[quote=Asha004]*Firstly,yes there may be sci-fi books for us to be reading,as it improves our knowledge about the wrold...blah,blah,blah...I'm not disagreeing witht hat matter....but one has to agree with me whn I say that when it comes down to reading a well-written book,with an extraordinary plot that binds the reader from the very fist sentece all the way through...how amny books are actually there that do this?Many of them consist of the samo samo plot summaries...so it gets tedious and boring...but the Twilight series they are definitely something else....yes,they do consist of the mythical creatures such as warewolves and vampires,but these creatures have a different appeal about them...the reason these books r so enticing😛[/quote]
I agree that reading shouldn't be all sci-fi. Reading is recreational, IMO. Oh, there are MANY books and some GREAT fanfictions that have an extraordinary plot, are extremely well-written and have believable characters and IMO, are better than Twilight in many aspects. These are a few examples among many:
    The Historian Reading Lolita in Tehran The Time Traveler's Wife Atonement Vampire Chronicles
  • Fanfics written by atruwriter - you can go no wrong with her and they are VERY captivating, have an extraordinary plot and are very well-written. The most important thing - they delve into the mindset of every character and this is what contributes towards the appeal

Want me to go on?😛 Plus, save the first book, there is no "GREAT" plot in the books - that makes you go, WOW!! Why didn't I think of that? Bella and Edward are Mr and Mrs. Mary Sue. Good writers make the effort to not submit to their Ego to Mary Sue-ism or make characters that have no character flaws. This is often done by FanFiction writers but both JKR (admittedly, not as bluntly as SM, however) and SM have proved that Mary Sue's exist in canon as well.

[quote=Asha004]*For the lady who said "Edward is a complete prig!":Are you just being jealous because you haven't seem to found the complete prig in your previous boyfriends?I agree,it's not something that everyone is going to have...and when u say that girls are going to want these qualities in their boyfriends...well,let's look at it this way....differnt gilrs favor differnt things...but I don't think many of the young ladies who do read these books are ignorant enough to think there is really such a guy as Edward Cullen out there...because it does seem irrational...in fact,these kinds of guys only seem good in these books...he the epitomy of perfection,but if u ask me most of us would get really annoyed having to deal with someone that perfect...I wouldn't be able to handle it...I'd get irritated😆😆So...let's leave Edward Cullen's perfection out of this...as there is NO guy alive to match Edward's perfection....it just won't ever happen😉 [/quote]

[quote=TFD]Definition of "prig": A person who demonstrates an exaggerated conformity or propriety, especially in an irritatingly arrogant or smug manner.
Synonyms: snob, snoot, snot.
Related Words: disagreable person, unpleasant person
Source: TFD [/quote]
I don't think she'd exactly be jealous for not having found a complete prig in her previous boyfriends😛. Clarification ah, it's a wonderful thing.
Edward's fault lies in the fact that he's perfect. He's a perfect example of a Gary Stu - he's under-developed, appears one-dimensional and has NO character flaws. He is the epitome of bad writing and a wishfulfilment hero. He is perfect - and like you said, it just won't ever happen. His jealousy could have been a character flaw - but it's NEVER used against him. Despite being a vampire, he looks like a human, and thus, should have character flaws (not saying that he shouldn't have character flaws if he doesn't look human) but oh no, Meyer's wishfulfilment hero is faultless.
Edited by ShadowKisses - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShadowKisses

Seriously people, calm down. Just like you have the right to like the book and not be called stupid for your opinion, the lady in the article has the right to dislike the book and not be called stupid for her opinion. It's a free world.

Whoever said that the lady in question wouldn't be able to write something like Twilight - obviously, you haven't read fanfiction of Twilight. Breaking Dawn is EXACTLY like the 1000+ fanfictions out there where Bella+Edward get married, have a baby, Bella drops out of college and live freakishly happy ever after.
And to someone who said that Bella is an ideal 18 year old - you joking? Bella went to a crappier college just so she could be near her beloved. She dropped out of college just to get married/raise a baby. Are these the values and morales you want to instill in your children? 😕 You want them popping out kids before they are even 20, dropping out of college, having no career simply because they *love* this seemingly "perfect" guy? That's heartwarming to know. Hermione is a better role model, because despite having *character flaws* like being extremely bossy sometimes bordering on annoying (very believable, IMO!), she's capable of taking care of herself and packing a powerful slap unlike damsel-in-distress Bella who usually is very dependant on Edward/Jacob and needs to be rescued.
[quote=Asha004]*Firstly,yes there may be sci-fi books for us to be reading,as it improves our knowledge about the wrold...blah,blah,blah...I'm not disagreeing witht hat matter....but one has to agree with me whn I say that when it comes down to reading a well-written book,with an extraordinary plot that binds the reader from the very fist sentece all the way through...how amny books are actually there that do this?Many of them consist of the samo samo plot summaries...so it gets tedious and boring...but the Twilight series they are definitely something else....yes,they do consist of the mythical creatures such as warewolves and vampires,but these creatures have a different appeal about them...the reason these books r so enticing😛[/quote]
I agree that reading shouldn't be all sci-fi. Reading is recreational, IMO. Oh, there are MANY books and some GREAT fanfictions that have an extraordinary plot, are extremely well-written and have believable characters and IMO, are better than Twilight in many aspects. These are a few examples among many:
  • The Historian
  • Reading Lolita in Tehran
  • The Time Traveler's Wife
  • Atonement
  • Vampire Chronicles
  • Fanfics written by atruwriter - you can go no wrong with her and they are VERY captivating, have an extraordinary plot and are very well-written. The most important thing - they delve into the mindset of every character and this is what contributes towards the appeal

Want me to go on?😛 Plus, save the first book, there is no "GREAT" plot in the books - that makes you go, WOW!! Why didn't I think of that? Bella and Edward are Mr and Mrs. Mary Sue. Good writers make the effort to not submit to their Ego to Mary Sue-ism or make characters that have no character flaws. This is often done by FanFiction writers but both JKR (admittedly, not as bluntly as SM, however) and SM have proved that Mary Sue's exist in canon as well.

[quote=Asha004]*For the lady who said "Edward is a complete prig!":Are you just being jealous because you haven't seem to found the complete prig in your previous boyfriends?I agree,it's not something that everyone is going to have...and when u say that girls are going to want these qualities in their boyfriends...well,let's look at it this way....differnt gilrs favor differnt things...but I don't think many of the young ladies who do read these books are ignorant enough to think there is really such a guy as Edward Cullen out there...because it does seem irrational...in fact,these kinds of guys only seem good in these books...he the epitomy of perfection,but if u ask me most of us would get really annoyed having to deal with someone that perfect...I wouldn't be able to handle it...I'd get irritated😆😆So...let's leave Edward Cullen's perfection out of this...as there is NO guy alive to match Edward's perfection....it just won't ever happen😉 [/quote]

[quote=TFD]Definition of "prig": A person who demonstrates an exaggerated conformity or propriety, especially in an irritatingly arrogant or smug manner.
Synonyms: snob, snoot, snot.
Related Words: disagreable person, unpleasant person
Source: TFD [/quote]
I don't think she'd exactly be jealous for not having found a complete prig in her previous boyfriends😛. Clarification ah, it's a wonderful thing.
Edward's fault lies in the fact that he's perfect. He's a perfect example of a Gary Stu - he's under-developed, appears one-dimensional and has NO character flaws. He is the epitome of bad writing and a wishfulfilment hero. He is perfect - and like you said, it just won't ever happen. His jealousy could have been a character flaw - but it's NEVER used against him. Despite being a vampire, he looks like a human, and thus, should have character flaws (not saying that he shouldn't have character flaws if he doesn't look human) but oh no, Meyer's wishfulfilment hero is faultless.



LOL!!Thx 4 clarification...but actually I found this definition online->Prig:
  1. a person who is annoyingly fastidious about rules, small details, etc.

And why I said that was because most guys these days do not follow the rules....in fact,let's face it...they seem to do exactly the opposite....I said that because Edward is the ideal boyfriend because he actually is a good boy who could do not wrong....and who is always after Bella regarding hre safety...it's hard to find these type of guys these days....but thanks for the comments😃
Edited by Asha004 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Asha004



LOL!!Thx 4 clarification...but actually I found this definition online->Prig:

  1. a person who is annoyingly fastidious about rules, small details, etc.
And why I said that was because most guys these days do not follow the rules....in fact,let's face it...they seem to do exactly the opposite....I said that because Edward is the ideal boyfriend because he actually is a good boy who could do not wrong....and who is always after Bella regarding hre safety...it's hard to find these type of guys these days....but thanks for the comments😃

What I thought you were trying to implicate was prig was something someone should be jealous of. I apologize for the misconception. And yea, it's hard to find a boy who can go no wrong (simply because a perfect guy doesn't exist in real life no matter how much you want them to *sigh*) but I disagree that he's an ideal boyfriend (Aldorel of GaiaOnline proves it quite convincingly) but then again, the definition of ideal varies from person to person. I rather think his habit of sneaking in to watch Bella sleep is rather stalker-esque.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Dear shadow kisses..
I do believe Bella's character is not as aweful as you paint her to be.
She did finally decided to go to a ivy league. I do not support her dropping out of school but I do believe in love. This is a fiction and their situation is unique. Just by reading a book, if one drops out of school..may be that person wouldn't get into a better school to begin with. An 18 year old person is not a kid who would be influenced by a fiction about vampires and werewolfs.
Hermione is again a fictional character who was intelligent and studious and problem solver. Bella is not too bad actually. She represents the average individual who tries to do the best for everybody, takes responsibility for her action. He reads a lot, she does well in class.
She is dependent on Edward and Jake for unnatural situations, definitely situations one would never face in reality.
Bella cares about her dad, cooks and cleans, is not greedy for expensive things, and of course hated the idea of getting married at 18. But again this is a fiction and she faced an abnormal situation. I don't think SM in any way encourage premarital s**, or dropping out of school...
Moreover, she had the baby even when she faced greatest danger to her life..that shows how sacred a mother's love is...she took responsibility for her action...she was married to the father of her child for god's sakes..so SM didn't encouage teen pregnancy out of wedlock here..
Lets not forget, this is a fiction. We do expect rational people to have their own judgement and not follow a fictional character blindly.
Edited by Isha - 17 years ago

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