Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 39 - Page 90

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Regarding criticizing, to each of their own 💯 and so I am focusing only on audience reactions for similar scenes on leads. I won't even dwell into who is right or who is wrong.

My post was to highlight writers POV , how audience are reacting to similar scenes between ML & FL. Let me bring up 1 example which I pointed out in my post, Vikrant forgiving Malla vs Mannat forgiving ARS. Is there really a logical thinking or reasoning for either of their actions? Malla sex trapped Vikrant, ARS murdered Sunita, made murder attempts on Mannat, Shurti.

Did Mannat forgive Aish or she laid a trap for her and got her arrested??? Which eventually led to her death in front of Mannat... (aur jo aaj pata chalega ki jhooth hai 😁)

Vs

Vikrant forgiving Malla for her molestation attempts on him and food poisoning and countless other crimes and believing whatever Malla did was out of her love for him????

And she still lives in SM, splurges money which Vik gives her and has tied him in a relationship with Yuvi. Mocks him behind his back.

Like you pointed out earlier, Mannat doesnt know everything... no one knows Sunitas accident was actually a murder 😐. Shrutis murder is still a secret. Audience knows, not Mannat.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Yeah I am just saying they have all the material to show him in positive light but not sure why they write him so badly… for example with neetu’s treatment, just rearrange the dialogues and scenes to show what his “main” motivation is. Thats all they need to do. They are doing it with mannat and even DK but not with vik. Why they are not getting it is beyond me.. unless they are really thinking about changing the dynamics btw mannat and DK.

Also like moor or someone said multiple times here, what DK did or didn’t do doesn’t matter in the bigger picture because he is not the lead. If they are trying to make him one, they are really doing a good job with his character at the moment.

I dont suppose they are changing the dynamics.

Vikrant will remain the lead... and with my morning dose of positivity inspite of the crap yesterday...

I feel they are making Mannat wary of him. So far she has always forgiven him very quickly which actually led to him never realising how wrong he was.

With this behaviour of his, she will take time to warm up to him even after finding out he was not wrong. And possibly make him work towards earning his love back rather than just accepting easily.

We have or atleast I had always felt Mannat will run back to him the moment she finds out he was innocent in certain matters. Now she wont. Vikrant will have to make her fall in love with him again

Originally posted by: Moor278

Did Mannat forgive Aish or she laid a trap for her and got her arrested??? Which eventually led to her death in front of Mannat... (aur jo aaj pata chalega ki jhooth hai 😁)

Vs

Vikrant forgiving Malla for her molestation attempts on him and food poisoning and countless other crimes and believing whatever Malla did was out of her love for him????

And she still lives in SM, splurges money which Vik gives her and has tied him in a relationship with Yuvi. Mocks him behind his back.

Like you pointed out earlier, Mannat doesnt know everything... no one knows Sunitas accident was actually a murder 😐. Shrutis murder is still a secret. Audience knows, not Mannat.

Again I am not talking about what Mannat did after finding out ARS lies. I am only pointing to the fact about audience reaction to Vikrant forgiving Malla vs Mannat forgiving ARS where both are criminals.

Mannat when she forgave ARS for all her crimes didn't know she was lying and Vikrant doesn't know Malla was lying about Vish.

Not referring to Shurti's murder, I am referring to attempted murder where she sets the chawl on fire (Sunita told her) and then tried to kill both her and Shurti post the surgery & yes Mannat knew ARS killed Sunita and she herself mentioned this several times.

Originally posted by: Moor278

I dont suppose they are changing the dynamics.

Vikrant will remain the lead... and with my morning dose of positivity inspite of the crap yesterday...

I feel they are making Mannat wary of him. So far she has always forgiven him very quickly which actually led to him never realising how wrong he was.

With this behaviour of his, she will take time to warm up to him even after finding out he was not wrong. And possibly make him work towards earning his love back rather than just accepting easily.

We have or atleast I had always felt Mannat will run back to him the moment she finds out he was innocent in certain matters. Now she wont. Vikrant will have to make her fall in love with him again

Not like we have an option of when they clear their MU and forgive eachother, so kye sera sera .

Just needs Mannat & ARS, Vikrant & Dua, Vikrant & Mannat scenes without anyone hijacking the scenes. I will be happy with this. If I get crazy Neetu back, I will throw a party as an added bonus 🥳

Regarding rinse and repeating same track , adding lollipops, channel needs beating using the bat Kitty uses

Baaki episode I will stick to " every action has an equal and opposite reaction" and some status quo has to change for the action, reaction series to stop. it's been 2.5 post leap + 2 months of pre-leap pure torture and not a moment of happiness in Mannat land 😭

Yes I am sure they will not replace the lead, but the way they are building DK, people might just root for him and mannat naturally. In yesterday’s episode he and mannat were able to connect well. He is shown as someone who stands by her! Just bring dua in there now and see how much he gets elevated by the situations around them.

Again I am focusing on how they are presenting things which are contradicting to whatever they are intending. DK’s confession is not even playing in my when I watched the episode. Without that also, he is shinning as the knight without armour. One more week of him around vik will be enough to shift the dynamics(in audience mind). Not Manvik fans but regular audiences

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Again I am not talking about what Mannat did after finding out ARS lies. I am only pointing to the fact about audience reaction to Vikrant forgiving Malla vs Mannat forgiving ARS where both are criminals.

Mannat when she forgave ARS for all her crimes didn't know she was lying and Vikrant doesn't know Malla was lying about Vish.

Not referring to Shurti's murder, I am referring to attempted murder where she sets the chawl on fire (Sunita told her) and then tried to kill both her and Shurti post the surgery & yes Mannat knew ARS killed Sunita and she herself mentioned this several times.

Ok understood! Mannat convinced herself that ARS had a trauma associated with her birth and hence. Committed all those crimes including murder. And forgave her

Same way Vikrant convinced himself Malla loved him & therefore deceived him into marriage and also poisoned all those children at Mezbaani. He still does not know that Malla attempted to murder him twice. ( but we do know that unless the writers want us to forget it, I as a viewer have not and therefore will not forgive her for it)

Can he also understand Mannat ‘s reason for that one lie to him ? Since this is the woman he loves and probably the one person he loves most.

Why is he causing this unnecessary hostility and pain to Mannat? As an audience we know that she suffers equally seeing him with other women.
Maybe this will begin and I am definitely hoping this period will begin his redemption track.
Mannat too will realise that leaving the city left him broken and easy prey to all those people who she was trying to protect him from.
This is about Manvik. I understand his position towards Vishakha as well. He is helping her to heal her trauma of losing him.
But I can’t accept Malla with him in the same house taking decisions of the house and for Mezbaani. If it’s all about Yuvi then for Mannat too, DK is all about Dua.

I am here I am here Ayesha and AdSha fan supporting Mannat, Vikrant, ManVik and I am not a solo Adnan fan . I know neither Vikrant nor Mannat are saints and also understand both are victims.

Scar, Yeah mannat sure will realize it slowly. That will be an interesting set of tracks. Yesterday also her emotions and points are all so valid. She is operating like we expect any woman in her position to act.

My question is this… why do the writers show that vik thinks she will care!! According to the writers vik thinks she has moved on and has a seven year old child. So she married someone and living with him and their child happily for 7 years. They have shown him thinking like that already. So why will he now think she will care?!! Aren’t they contradicting themselves?That part doenst make sense to me.

Instead they could have made him to ask her to stay with him for the sake of Neetu. He could still have claimed that he doenst trust mannat with money and in order to prevent her from escaping with money, he will want her to stay in the house till Neetu is recovered. First of all, why the hell would he marry now when Neetu is dying? Cant he for once tell Vish that he will make sure Neetu gets treated, dua will finish competition and he will send them all back?!! Instead of making him look like a fool trying to jellofy a happily married woman who according to any sane man wouldn’t care to get jealous .

So either he thinks mannat still loves him in which case he is hurting her again or he is a fool. If he is a fool, why to expect redemption from him? Mannat will slowly uncover what happened and she will decide whether to protect him by staying with him or leave him unable to change him… she loves him so she might just decide to stay with him to protect him.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Again I am not talking about what Mannat did after finding out ARS lies. I am only pointing to the fact about audience reaction to Vikrant forgiving Malla vs Mannat forgiving ARS where both are criminals.

Mannat when she forgave ARS for all her crimes didn't know she was lying and Vikrant doesn't know Malla was lying about Vish.

Not referring to Shurti's murder, I am referring to attempted murder where she sets the chawl on fire (Sunita told her) and then tried to kill both her and Shurti post the surgery & yes Mannat knew ARS killed Sunita and she herself mentioned this several times.

Because when Mannat forgives, the audience knows she is doing it with a motive. That she will eventually use that information to bring Aish to the books... which she does.

Even now, in the current setup, we all know Mannat is going to pretend that she mistook Arzoo for Aish but deep down she knows the truth. And she will make sure to get Aish punished.

Thats the hope audience has with Mannat and it comes true. Also makes for good drama.

Whereas with Vikrant, when he forgives, he forgives completely... ignoring every other thing he knows just because the person pretends to have reformed. And doesnt even hold them accountable.

Rather defends Malla in front of Mannat. Calling her motives originating for love for him when Malla herself had acknowledged that she trapped him in a fake ONS.

I know he doesnt know about Yuvi but he is on friendlier terms with Malla inspite of knowing many of her kaands... whereas the last 2 episodes will tell you Mannat has not forgiven Malla at all.

Thats what the audience sees and understands .... dont blame audience for believing Vik is dumb when thats how he comes across.

My question to you is why do you feel the need to defend Vikrant so much????

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Ok understood! Mannat convinced herself that ARS had a trauma associated with her birth and hence. Committed all those crimes including murder. And forgave her

Same way Vikrant convinced himself Malla loved him & therefore deceived him into marriage and also poisoned all those children at Mezbaani. He still does not know that Malla attempted to murder him twice. ( but we do know that unless the writers want us to forget it, I as a viewer have not and therefore will not forgive her for it)

Can he also understand Mannat ‘s reason for that one lie to him ? Since this is the woman he loves and probably the one person he loves most.

Why is he causing this unnecessary hostility and pain to Mannat? As an audience we know that she suffers equally seeing him with other women.
Maybe this will begin and I am definitely hoping this period will begin his redemption track.
Mannat too will realise that leaving the city left him broken and easy prey to all those people who she was trying to protect him from.
This is about Manvik. I understand his position towards Vishakha as well. He is helping her to heal her trauma of losing him.
But I can’t accept Malla with him in the same house taking decisions of the house and for Mezbaani. If it’s all about Yuvi then for Mannat too, DK is all about Dua.

Hugs for understanding the intention of the post

Bold 1 he would have wouldn't he have they not left the city, remember he told Vish it was a small mistake and he can't leave Mannat in pain for such a small mistake. Guess writers left a thread hanging there and forgot to take this thread forward

Bold 2 - I am seeing this as Vikrant and Mannat are 2 different individuals. When Mannat is hurt, she focuses on ignoring Vikrant, hides her pain where as Vikrant focuses on getting reaction out of Mannat whatever it takes.

Yesterday's scene I know many were upset. I didn't react much to the dialogues actually, I was intrigued more with the actions and reactions since the scene was more than dialogues as I understood. It was ManVik in pain for me and hurting eachother with acid like words.

Creatives with a lack of creativity had only one goal in mind bring Mannat to SM, keep up with ManVik MU & add more obstacles. So, the easiest target is Vikrant character since Mannat won't react to anyone else.

Malla , I hate her character around Vikrant and now around Yuvi. She is a molester and shouldn't be around kids or any male characters. I don't understand this creative freedom which makers use to ignore molestation against Mannat and Vikrant.

Bold 3 - so far this is the impression we have from ManVik perspective, so thankful for small mercies.