Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 31

Originally posted by: Rdigest

I meant on DK's crimes and Mannat's faults. These are known to all of us

DK shifting ARS to hospital without a valid reason and by getting blackmailed.

DK saw Malla bribing the pandit and he is a cop if he has forgotten

DK starting the fire on KC by being blackmailed again

DK letting go of Vish instead of arresting them after finding out she sold Vikrant, let his dad die and was drugging Dadi. Then like this wast enough he goes on to blackmail her into silence along with Mannat.

DK letting go of RoTu after knowing the truth that Neetu was involved in the accident, Ronnie did buy Vikrant, Neetu did drug Vikrant. Mannat supported all these.

Bold - why this clause for Mannat and DK , what does bold mean ?

When I say crime... I mean serious crimes... not Chote mote which this show is well known for.... we dont call it crime patrol ainvayi 😁

Red is when he believed Vish was innocent and was helping her get back Aman. Can't be called a crime. Also Red ones happened before him knowing Dadis truth.

Blue is misjudgement... he believed his own bio mom that she wont reveal Amans truth. He was banking on her worry that Dadi would be exposed. Did not knew that Aish was alive and can kill Dadi. Vish didnt kill Dadi anyway.

Green... their father would have survived if he had got treatment... sure accident happened but Ro offered money for treatment... and even got Aman back to the hospital... not exactly a crime again. Yes we can say he was swayed by the offer .. but it didn't originate from Ronnie.

Mannat I have mentioned to you earlier was influenced by her own trauma, Viks health post his breakdowns and the truth that Vish sold him... she wanted to avoid Viks heartbreak.... her decision like RoTu and DK was taken in good faith for Vik ... not to harm him or trouble him.

All these are mistakes not crimes IMO.

Good people can falter.... doesnt mean they are criminals. Neither they can be jailed. Even courts dont do that as far as I know.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Moor I was talking only about myself and my unconscious bias against Vikrant where I bashed Vikrant but automatically started defending Mannat or being very careful on calling her out even when she was supporting criminals. This is from my perspective on why I changed the stance after the funeral episode.

I have a funny narrative of Mannat and DK compatibility 🙈, they are compatible for sure because they both have forgotten how they deceived Vikrant pre-leap and consider themselves innocent just because they said sorry and Vikrant CA Mannat.

So, they are compatible in not calling out each other on their faults, crimes or even supporting criminals just like a cat closing it's eyes and believing it's invisible and all is well. I did see many of manit fans specifically routing for them and I am saying this based on their user names on Instagram. So, good for them because they are liking this narrative.

Mannat and DK's actions are being judged and given a free pass by saying Vikrant did worse, instead they should be judged based on what both the characters did irrespective of what Vikrant did or didn't. I am not interested in DK, to me he is always a criminal cop until he accepts his crimes and gets punished.

The point is as much as Vikrant is not innocent, Mannat is not innocent either and she didn't get bashed atleast by me because of the unconscious bias I had that she was pregnant during the wedding drama and she was going to lose Shurti.

Hear!Hear!

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Very well put 👏

Moor not sure I have a response if none of these are crimes since DK is a cop who is supposed to withhold law. He can get suspended and jailed for what all he did. He is no less than ARS or Vish or Malla just because he didn't commit a murder yet.

Any experts in police or law can speak but this is my knowledge of Indian law unless they have corrupt connections and can escape for all these crimes.

For Mannat I am going to ask what is in good faith for Vikrant mean? What is good for grown up Vikrant and now Dua once she grows up, who decides this ?

Originally posted by: Daman17

Mannat acknowledges Vik as Dua’s father at heart yet she also believes that Vik thinks the child belongs to DK. This is reflected in her conversations with both Vik and DK when she talks about ghatiya and bebuniyaad ilzaam. She has a fear that Neetu might reveal the truth that Dua is Vik’s daughter and not DK’s. Such a revelation would give Vik parental rights even though he had rejected the child earlier according to her and questioned her character. What no one knows is that Vik was never aware of the pregnancy. However, in Mannat’s understanding Vik knew she was pregnant but believed the child was DK’s, not his. This belief fuels her fear of rejection for herself and for dua because she feels they would once again be subjected to the same questions, doubts, and need for validation. If Neetu or any other vamp exposes dua’s truth, it would give Vik the power to claim her and potentially take her away. In his mind, Mannat would appear guilty of hiding the truth and conveniently portraying DK as dua’s father and depriving him of his rights without him even pausing to question the circumstances.

Daman

I will point out one thing here. As per Mannat Vikrant rejected his baby only not DK’s.

If you recall their conversation before going to search Shruti. She clearly told DK what’s the use of trying to mend ways? If he is not believing me but photos shown by Vish. Or should I wait if he accuses that this baby is not his but yours and this I will not be able to tolerate. So for Mannat he rejected their baby only and sent Divorce papers so she will not come for property with their kid(MU created by Malla).

Her fear is that he will hurt Dua the same way he hurt her. And her anger at him for rejecting their kid not because he believes kid is DK’s.

And see she was even going to send him message about her pregnancy and think for their baby but DK told her to send voice note instead 😡. She couldn’t sent it because of Shruti’s death😢

And if you recall her dream Vikrant taking Dua away. See deep down she fears that being a father Vikrant does have a right on Dua and he might take her away and she will be all alone 😢.

One more thing her anger at him for thinking that she moved on with DK proving his allegations true😢.

Originally posted by: Moor278

I did not find time to write this ....

DK did not became Duas father on the day of her birth... that happened few months down the line... when the baby is significantly older.... about a year or so...

In that scene... it is kind of hinted that DK is more of a hands on father whereas Mannat is not. This is surprising since we see a very perceptive and alert Mannat now. Much more than DK.

It was not explicitly mentioned but hinted ... what if Mannat did not warm up to the child immediately due to the trauma.... hence DK took that role... isn't this what Shruti feared as well???

Not trying to defend DK either... I was wondering if anyone else felt so for Mannat?

It might have happen because of Postpartum depression😢. And as such she was going through alot. So understandable and as such saying goes it takes a village to raise a kid.

Originally posted by: Daman17

I had quoted the same thing in my post when the BTS was released. Mannat appeared disconnected and lost and the way DK was explaining things to the doctor made me feel that he has been holding everyone together as the most active and responsible member. Mannat’s logic seems to stem from the trauma of losing both Shruti and Vik. She ended up surrounded by people who entered her life through Vik and the strong bond between them was formed through sharing responsibilities for dua. Throughout the scenes, we repeatedly hear how her lowest and weakest moments have shaped her into a stronger person. She managed to come out of her trauma for dua’s sake. However, even now we see her crying and hiding her tears from dua, which shows that a part of her still resurfaces whenever the triggers are related to Vikrant and Mumbai. The only difference is that this pain is now suppressed.

Moor, Daman

You both highlighted Mannat’s possible post birth detachment from the baby so well….I noticed her behaviour was a a little off, particularly the older crying baby scene but having read your thoughts, you’re right to suggest Mannat maybe not bonding with her baby, connected to her grieving and trauma of her separation from Vik, as a severe case of post natal depression, so DK stepped up in caring for the baby (Ronnie busy with Neetu).

At the time of watching I was feeling sadness for Vikrant missing this stage, so didn’t take it in fully.

Originally posted by: Moor278

I did not find time to write this ....

DK did not became Duas father on the day of her birth... that happened few months down the line... when the baby is significantly older.... about a year or so...

In that scene... it is kind of hinted that DK is more of a hands on father whereas Mannat is not. This is surprising since we see a very perceptive and alert Mannat now. Much more than DK.

It was not explicitly mentioned but hinted ... what if Mannat did not warm up to the child immediately due to the trauma.... hence DK took that role... isn't this what Shruti feared as well???

Not trying to defend DK either... I was wondering if anyone else felt so for Mannat?

Are we sure it's after a year they make BC, shouldn't this be done within 3 months or something in India. I am saying this because they cannot hire such a small baby, so they might have hired a grown up baby for the FB. The intent of the scene atleast I interpreted was to highlight the fact DK is on the BC and Vikrant will go ballistic once he knows Dua is his daughter creating trouble for Mannat for lying on something as critical as BC.

This is just my interpretation, since there was no need to add this scene otherwise.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Are we sure it's after a year they make BC, shouldn't this be done within 3 months or something in India. I am saying this because they cannot hire such a small baby, so they might have hired a grown up baby for the FB. The intent of the scene atleast I interpreted was to highlight the fact DK is on the BC and Vikrant will go ballistic once he knows Dua is his daughter creating trouble for Mannat for lying on something as critical as BC.

This is just my interpretation, since there was no need to add this scene otherwise.

How many BC are there? Was DK's offer to tear the BC with his name just a figure of speech?