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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Feminism is not a disease with side effects. The issue lies in the fact that our society has always been patriarchal. When women demand their legitimate rights, some men act as though they're being horrifically wronged in the process.

Education? Even today, girls and women are still denied access to education in many parts of the world.

Property rights? Did you know that, in some communities, a man receives 50% of his father's property while a woman—especially if she's married—is only given 25%?

Laws? How many men are actually prosecuted for eve-teasing, sexual harassment, rape, abuse, or domestic violence? Should I start listing all the crimes committed against women simply because some men believe they have the right to dominate someone they perceive as weaker?

Politics? Just look at the numbers—men vastly outnumber women in positions of power. And if there weren’t any reserved representation, there’s a good chance women would be excluded entirely. Because, of course, men know best, right?

@B – Since you brought up alimony, let’s talk about that.

I can’t speak confidently for India, where the judicial system often fails women, but in the U.S., there’s something called community property. This means that assets earned during marriage belong equally to both spouses.

If a couple divorces, the husband may be required to pay alimony from these shared assets to help his ex-wife become self-sufficient. If he's significantly more affluent, it's only fair that his contribution reflects that. He's not giving it away to charity or doing his ex-wife a favour fgs. And let’s not ignore the fact that plenty of husbands lie in court to reduce the amount they have to pay.

And yes, women pay alimony too. If she’s the one earning more, courts can and do make her pay. That part’s conveniently left out of most arguments.

Also? Plenty of women waive alimony altogether. But when someone does take it, it doesn’t mean they’re gold-digging or out for their husband's money. It means the law recognizes the need for support after a marriage ends. That’s it.

If you feel feminism is something that favours women more than men, that's your perception but not necessarily the truth.

In India, working women don't get alimony. Only those women who don't earn money get alimony. So, alimony makes complete sense to me. Also, if a man damages another person's mental health, inflicts pain on her, and treats her with disrespect continuously during their married life, shouldn't he pay? Suppose, a woman was a victim of domestic violence when she was married. Shouldn't the man who caused so much pain in her life pay for all the barbaric activities he did? A lot of married women face domestic violence. He tagged me in a negative post related to feminism too. I didn't agree with him at all. But I didn't write any reply. I chose silence intentionally.

Edited by Shirsha - 3 months ago
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Feminism is not a disease with side effects. The issue lies in the fact that our society has always been patriarchal. When women demand their legitimate rights, some men act as though they're being horrifically wronged in the process.

Education? Even today, girls and women are still denied access to education in many parts of the world.

Property rights? Did you know that, in some communities, a man receives 50% of his father's property while a woman—especially if she's married—is only given 25%?

Laws? How many men are actually prosecuted for eve-teasing, sexual harassment, rape, abuse, or domestic violence? Should I start listing all the crimes committed against women simply because some men believe they have the right to dominate someone they perceive as weaker?

Politics? Just look at the numbers—men vastly outnumber women in positions of power. And if there weren’t any reserved representation, there’s a good chance women would be excluded entirely. Because, of course, men know best, right?

@B – Since you brought up alimony, let’s talk about that.

I can’t speak confidently for India, where the judicial system often fails women, but in the U.S., there’s something called community property. This means that assets earned during marriage belong equally to both spouses.

If a couple divorces, the husband may be required to pay alimony from these shared assets to help his ex-wife become self-sufficient. If he's significantly more affluent, it's only fair that his contribution reflects that. He's not giving it away to charity or doing his ex-wife a favour fgs. And let’s not ignore the fact that plenty of husbands lie in court to reduce the amount they have to pay.

And yes, women pay alimony too. If she’s the one earning more, courts can and do make her pay. That part’s conveniently left out of most arguments.

Also? Plenty of women waive alimony altogether. But when someone does take it, it doesn’t mean they’re gold-digging or out for their husband's money. It means the law recognizes the need for support after a marriage ends. That’s it.

If you feel feminism is something that favours women more than men, that's your perception but not necessarily the truth.

There are still many areas where women being sidelined only because they are " women"

There were many writers who adopted male name so that there books will be published ...

JK Rowling also adopted that name , because of her agent advised her to do that after multiple rejections...

About property, education , politics every where women are sidelined because they are being women ....

Same time " feminism " is like a double edged sword at times people misuse the term ..

Feminists fight for " not being suppressed only because of gender or equal pay when the work load is same , for a woman to prove her worth to patriarchal society is a herculean task , but people who cause a lot of trouble , ridicule the effort mocking " Feminists & what they stand for"

Edited by Rosh4rose - 3 months ago
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Posted: 3 months ago
On feminism in india which is a third world non industrialised nation - I feel tradition and culture is weapanized against women A simple example men moved from dhoti the traditional attire to pant shirts while traditional dressing was imposed on women and honestly the choice factor does not come in for majority of women living in rural India .There was a discussion why girls wear jeans but never around why boys wear it .Men not following tradition was ohk but women doing it will be questioned . I know this is trivial and not the end of the world but it's true . I do differ on allimony .I honestly don't believe in the idea of choice when it comes to making money .I think by doing that you are putting the financial responsibility of a adult to another adult who is not your parent and if such a choice exists it should be gender neutral. And I don't believe in allimony just because one spouse earns a lot more than the other unless it could be proven that the other spouse faced economic losses when the person making more money was climbing the ladder of success. A more capable person will earn more money but that doesn't mean if someone is married to one like that they simply get half to maintain that level of living standard post separation .It should be earned. There was a case in Bangalore where a women was asking 6 lakhs maintenance from her ex husband just because he made 14 crores a year and she was making 31 lpa . Clearly the other guy is more capable and just because the guy is earning more money she doesn't become liable to live the life he provided when they were married and there was no child involved . Although I do believe compensation should be granted in case of adultery,any kind of violence commited to the women . And lastly the most pressing one I do feel women who make fake cases against men and their family should be punished along with their lawyers .I agree these cases would be still few and far between but still the justice system should never be biased towards any gender
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: Shirsha

In India, working women don't get alimony. Only those women who don't earn money get alimony. So, alimony makes complete sense to me. Also, if a man damages another person's mental health, inflicts pain on her, and treats her with disrespect continuously during their married life, shouldn't he pay? Suppose, a woman was a victim of domestic violence when she was married. Shouldn't the man who caused so much pain in her life pay for all the barbaric activities he did? A lot of married women face domestic violence. He tagged me in a negative post related to feminism too. I didn't agree with him at all. But I didn't write any reply. I chose silence intentionally.

Normally, I would also choose silence but sometimes it really triggers me seeing such ideas. People think feminism is some kind of Gen Z phenomenon when it has been in effect for a long time. Feminism has improved the basic rights of countless women, but there are people who think it's some kind of movement against men. And absolutely Shirsha, I totally agree with your opinion. When he has been an animal, a despicable human being to his partner, he deserves to at least contribute something that steadies her life a little.

Edited by missFiesty_69 - 3 months ago
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: Rosh4rose

There are still many areas where women being sidelined only because they are " women"

There were many writers who adopted male name so that there books will be published ...

JK Rowling also adopted that name , because of her agent advised her to do that after multiple rejections...

About property, education , politics every where women are sidelined because they are being women ....

Same time " feminism " is like a double edged sword at times people misuse the term ..

Feminists fight for " not being suppressed only because of gender or equal pay when the work load is same , for a woman to prove her worth to patriarchal society is a herculean task , but people who cause a lot of trouble , ridicule the effort mocking " Feminists & what they stand for"

@b: this I'll agree. It's misused but no one can deny it has improved the life of countless women, and still strives for equality. All this discrimination ? It's based on a factor that is essentially in nobody's control.

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Normally, I would also choose silence but sometimes it really triggers me seeing such ideas. People think feminism is some kind of Gen Z phenomenon when it has been in effect for a long time. Feminism has improved the basic rights of countless women, but there are people who think it's some kind of movement against men. And absolutely Shirsha, I totally agree with your opinion. When he has been an animal, a despicable human being to his partner, he deserves to at least contribute something that steadies her life a little.

I chose silence because I know what arguing with him means. First, it's pointless to argue with him. Second, it'll go on for days.

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: Sukorameni

On feminism in india which is a third world non industrialised nation - I feel tradition and culture is weapanized against women A simple example men moved from dhoti the traditional attire to pant shirts while traditional dressing was imposed on women and honestly the choice factor does not come in for majority of women living in rural India .There was a discussion why girls wear jeans but never around why boys wear it .Men not following tradition was ohk but women doing it will be questioned . I know this is trivial and not the end of the world but it's true . I do differ on allimony .I honestly don't believe in the idea of choice when it comes to making money .I think by doing that you are putting the financial responsibility of a adult to another adult who is not your parent and if such a choice exists it should be gender neutral. And I don't believe in allimony just because one spouse earns a lot more than the other unless it could be proven that the other spouse faced economic losses when the person making more money was climbing the ladder of success. A more capable person will earn more money but that doesn't mean if someone is married to one like that they simply get half to maintain that level of living standard post separation .It should be earned. There was a case in Bangalore where a women was asking 6 lakhs maintenance from her ex husband just because he made 14 crores a year and she was making 31 lpa . Clearly the other guy is more capable and just because the guy is earning more money she doesn't become liable to live the life he provided when they were married and there was no child involved . Although I do believe compensation should be granted in case of adultery,any kind of violence commited to the women . And lastly the most pressing one I do feel women who make fake cases against men and their family should be punished along with their lawyers .I agree these cases would be still few and far between but still the justice system should never be biased towards any gender

I'm not saying people don't misuse the alimony system but do you know how many women leave their jobs because they need to manage their homes & kids after marriage ? Sometimes it's subtly insisted by the husband & and the in-laws because it's a matter of ego. In that case, had she been earning, she could have saved up quite some amount. Don't you think in that case, it's the moral responsibility of the husband to support her till she's steady on her feet ?

I believe waiving alimony is a personal decision and should be left to the individuals involved. No court orders a husband to give half his earnings to his wife—it's usually a percentage share. The Bangalore case is an anomaly; it doesn't happen often. But yes, anyone misusing the system should be held accountable, regardless of gender.

Also, alimony is only granted while the woman remains unmarried and unsupported. If she remarries, her ex-husband is no longer obligated to support her. However, if there's a child involved, he is still required to pay child support.

Edited by missFiesty_69 - 3 months ago
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Posted: 3 months ago

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Please avoid using harsh words for Armaan. His admirers who tend to become active around 8 pm sharp might feel triggered. I’m an Abhimaan fan myself, truly, but I’ve always found it amusing how synchronized their appearances are. It’s as if they finish all their household chores and log in together.
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Please avoid using harsh words for Armaan. His admirers who tend to become active around 8 pm sharp might feel triggered. I’m an Abhimaan fan myself, truly, but I’ve always found it amusing how synchronized their appearances are. It’s as if they finish all their household chores and log in together.

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