Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 94

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

This is the harsh reality of trauma and victim behavior. Years and decades of it. The real chains are psychological.

Nashwa didn’t even feel comfortable letting her mother go alone with Barkat and Bakhtiyar to her ex husband’s grave. She went with her mother as her protector. Despite knowing her daughter is not wrong, Bisma slaps her in front of everyone else. There is so much internalised oppression that Bisma does to herself which goes beyond her real oppressors. She silences herself and is comfortable remaining a ghost in that house. Rationality doesn’t come into the picture when survival is at stake.

Banaya tha na rational plan Nashwa ne. To say no to Ammar once her mother got married? Kya faida howa uss ka? Was Bakhtiyar going to let her mother do that without securing something in return FIRST? Of course not. Kachi goliyaan nahi kheli hain uss ne.

Don't know yaar, nothing makes sense and is totally unacceptable. That's why not able to enjoy the show so much. Even Bisma I could not relate to and now even Nashwa. Don't understand why didn't Bisma marry aasim when she became a widow. No body could have been a better father than Asim even back then. Look ar the way he has brought up Burhan. She has done injustice to Nashwa.

And Nashwa I don't know what to say. It is totally unacceptable. My question still remains the same, what could Bakhtiyar have done, if Asim and Bisma decided to get Married and Nashwa would have gone with them.

She should have spoken Bijan and Burhan and taken their advice

Originally posted by: pilot100

Don't know yaar, nothing makes sense and is totally unacceptable. That's why not able to enjoy the show so much. Even Bisma I could not relate to and now even Nashwa. Don't understand why didn't Bisma marry aasim when she became a widow. No body could have been a better father than Asim even back then. Look ar the way he has brought up Burhan. She has done injustice to Nashwa.

And Nashwa I don't know what to say. It is totally unacceptable. My question still remains the same, what could Bakhtiyar have done, if Asim and Bisma decided to get Married and Nashwa would have gone with them.

She should have spoken Bijan and Burhan and taken their advice

Maybe it’s not your type of story? Which is fine. Generational trauma is not something we can all relate to and perhaps that’s the problem you’re facing. Your question about Bisma - the answer to that is so obvious to me - but you’re unable to follow that. It was recently confirmed by the writer in her interview as well. You should watch it

Bisma decided to marry Asim? That was never going to happen. Even now this marriage had to be orchestrated by Nashwa (not Bisma) and only happened because of the deal she made. Otherwise Bisma would still have not married Asim. She wasn’t even acknowledging her feelings for Asim. The only reason she did now was to somehow protect Nashwa in the future. Both Nashwa and Bisma always chose their duty and love for each other over any other desire.

https://x.com/elonmushk_/status/1903107315059863845?t=yuwzYw539KwSeMGCyVRMHw&s=19

https://youtu.be/2TSdGOizf4M?si=ad8qw1tpKW4cvd3F

https://x.com/MalikSafda60270/status/1903116258519707850?t=vqa7cUCV6NiHajkWZwy6_A&s=19

Originally posted by: WabalMunni

Why people suddenly become cry babies when they are called out on their toxic behaviour. And people also need to brush up on what 'bullying' actually is? Bullying is mocking, bashing ridiculing others in the name of FunNnNnn. Bullying is not standing up to this behaviour and showing the mirror to the actual bullies.

Is anybody going to deny THE FACT that Usama was mercilessly mocked and shamed and ridiculed on THIS forum. Remember! the screenshots WERE shared! There is a huge difference between criticizing and mocking. LEARN THAT DIFFERENCE! and I am not talking in Martian, mocking and bashing IS ACTUALLY AGAINST THIS FORUM's RULES!

People want to criticize Usama's acting. They can criticize all they want! They have been doing it constantly! Never stopped! after all it is THIER RIGHT to share their opinion but then same people criticizing others' 'opinion' and bringing Yumna Stans into it IS a problem! and another thing to clarify for people having 'great deduction skills' (apparently others don't have any).. that no .. bashing/mocking is not equal to criticizing/sharing opinion as former was continuously happening on this forum (still happening to be honest), which people called out and shared evidence in form of THE SCREEN SHOTS!

About comparing! the same people who continuously criticize and compare an actor that oh if Usama wasn't there, if an A B C D actor was there, especially if WaHaAjJJjjJJJ was there then Oh my God then stars and moons and sun would have been dangling from this show. The same people have the audacity to criticize others on their sort of comparison because they don't agree with it.

And btw Usama's comparison to Fawad did not even happen on THIS forum. It happened somewhere else. It was brought on this forum (which is again AGAISNT THIS FORUM RULES) and Yumna Stans were brought into it and then bashed and ridiculed! Wah! kia non-toxic behaviour hai???

These people want 'their NEGATIVE comparison' to be respected because they have supposedly ALL THE RIGHTS but they don't want to respect others' POSITIVE comparison???! once again wah! kia non-toxic behaviour hai???

And also people very well know what 'toxicity' and 'bullying' actually means. No need to invent the new dictionary. Toxicity is being negative all the time and bullying is constantly demean, bash and ridicule a person. Can anybody deny? Calling out bullying and negativity is not bullying and toxicity! GET THAT PLEASE!

Feel free to block. I just blocked people who only post Twitter VMs as I consider them spam. They're free to post stuff from Twitter and enjoy as they wish and I'm good to not see it. That's a lovely person but I just don't need to see it. You do the same to me.

Also, twitter posts are brought here. Everyday. I have never shared a tweet link here.

Also, here we talk about real life cases where a good looking guy is arrested and has support. There are always such people who support wrong in reel and real. But people who bring up a real life good looking guy this or Ammar that...good looking and all...they know very well they're indirectly pointing at people who may not like a certain ship or are just waiting for a trial to clarify things instead of providing mob street justice. Especially people who already said what their stance is on an enabler and agree that enablers not only should be punished but play the most impactful role in such situations.

Maybe there is an issue in understanding where I'm coming from. It's from my prior experience here and what I noticed now and overtime.

Summary: I met this group here after Yakeen ka safar. First they all seemed normal. We were off to another platform and we were talking about the drama and any other potential projects. It was initially cute to see Sajal ahad friendship grow and I thought everyone was taking it easy and as fun only. Then a month or two goes by and they start this strange desire for shipping from reel to real. I try to get back to the topic of acting and drama but it's all lost.

I had this lady with whom the young me had an beyhes over the delusions of real life shipping. I was reprimanded by people in private saying I need to let her do that and just change the group topic to real life shipping so she can say whatever she wants because apparently her child died and she got divorced. I do not know if it was real or not. Well, the whole shipping Sahad put them under pressure and look what happened.

Same way I feel Usama seems really nice and humble but is getting a totally wrong feedback regarding his acting especially voice. This hinders him and if anyone truly cares or is a real fan would let the constructive criticism flow and not make false comparisons. Same goes for Wahaj and script. It doesn't at all mean that someone hates them. Coddling people isn't good.

What is I want to say is toxic stanning and shippers result in reel changing by force ruining scripts, real life failure to make a reel couple work under pressure and artists not getting real feedbacks as the Stans keep them in delulu.

Getting back to the story, this is a group I met on IF....that should tell anyone what they need to know about what goes on here at times. Saying sorry to anyone here or admitting that one is wrong here is moot. The other person is not looking for your or their growth. They will double down and gaslight you.

While I respect people hurting and coping in whatever way they can, there is something seriously hurting in life to be this attached to a person on screen or a couple and especially by lashing out at other real people. No Usama Yumna nameer or Saqib cares or knows.

That is all I will say. If there is an apology expected then it will never be given. I believe in saying sorry where needed and have no ego about saying it but some people do not even deserve an apology here and actually suffer from holier than thou attitude. What I have learned is people here have issues in real life and instead of dealing with the core cause of it, they are just lashing out at anyone who points out any facts.

It's clear that it's not about getting upset at Maya's acting being criticism or Usama's or a celeb clothing brand. Something deeper is going on.

Originally posted by: Achelvi

https://x.com/MalikSafda60270/status/1903116258519707850?t=vqa7cUCV6NiHajkWZwy6_A&s=19

The perfect emo break up song for this clip

Originally posted by: Achelvi

https://youtu.be/2TSdGOizf4M?si=ad8qw1tpKW4cvd3F

I really enjoyed watching this interview. Fuchsia is inviting them all in pairs now haha. Rabia just did an interview with Yumna but hopefully she does another one with Yumna and Usama. Would love to see it. Or even Yumna and Sakina Sumo. Every other major actor she has covered in this.

It was little too spoilery for me. Deepak even started talking about Nashwa taking Ammar to court. I thought that was a giveaway. And about Bakhtiyar having a big moment down the line where there’s perhaps remorse? That was what I understood him to be saying. Let’s see.

I don’t think it’s just 5 more episodes though. The story is far from over. I think easily 7-8 episodes aur hongi for sure. It might hit 30

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

I really enjoyed watching this interview. Fuchsia is inviting them all in pairs now haha. Rabia just did an interview with Yumna but hopefully she does another one with Yumna and Usama. Would love to see it. Or even Yumna and Sakina Sumo. Every other major actor she has covered in this.

It was little too spoilery for me. Deepak even started talking about Nashwa taking Ammar to court. I thought that was a giveaway. And about Bakhtiyar having a big moment down the line where there’s perhaps remorse? That was what I understood him to be saying. Let’s see.

I don’t think it’s just 5 more episodes though. The story is far from over. I think easily 7-8 episodes aur hongi for sure. It might hit 30

Even I feel it will be around 30 as it always ends up more than actually written so if 28 on paper it will be more few episodes more

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