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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: samarp2

may be i am seeing it in a different way Vira..now he wont do that much Arshi pda..there he did cause no one was triggering him there..but here its not..

Here Adi is there step by step on his way with Jhanak..whereever Ani goes & sees Jhanak..he will see Adi near her..that will just hurt him more & more..yesterday he was only thinking about talking to Jhanak & fining out why she came here & they met after long they need to talk a lot..

he looks completely unawre of what mistake he did for hersmiley39or he is just clueless what she is angry on..cause she is not telling him clearlysmiley36...gol gol talks doesnt go in his headsmiley37..he loves seedhi baat no bakwassmiley16smiley37..Jhanak was doing bakwas instead of comg to muddasmiley16smiley37

thats y i like Adi & Ani`s convosmiley36...Adi says him seedhi baat in the language he understandssmiley37smiley37smiley37

i like your take birthday good

enjoy ur special daysmiley27

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: asmitamohanty

Sooo.....the way I see it...

Jhanak

The Jhanak I saw today....is not a strong Jhanak but actually someone who is getting weak due to her love for him in spite of trying to be strong...She had decided to give up Aniruddh for Arshi..but still till date she can't help but feeling jealous of him being with Arshi... Today her conversation with him was not about how his demand was unfair...how this victory was important for her Guruji and she let him down....bcz these are not the her primary concern now....

I had said this... I will repeat it again that the fact that Aniruddh thought that she could defeat Arshi and asked her to lose has boosted her confidence only...The fact that her Sirji believed in her talent more than Arshi is what mattered to her..

Still she is disappointed only because he asked it for Arshi...He was soo worried for Arshi...If you remember the day Jhanak was asked this sacrifice by Ani, she had told Ani .." Arrey depression... kisi Ko bhi ho Sakta hai..mujhe bhi ho Sakta hai..." There was definitely a slight hint of jealousy seeing him getting so much concerned about her...

Today her entire conversation was mostly about Arshi....her taunting him again and again.... about "his wife" thing is a jealous lover only who is not being able to accept the fact that this man even after Confessing his love to her ended up getting married to Arshi....She is jealous of Arshi....Still she can't help but taunt him regarding his choice...of "wife" ....how inspite of all the mental torture they are giving him(,how did she know..I don't knowsmiley37)..he is still married to her...

The way he called AK as "Aditya" and asked him " aap mujhe drop karne ke liye bol Rahe the" ..it gave me a deja vu of the ad shoot time when she ran hugging Aditya looked at him sideways.....Both are more or less same...

They affect eachother in the extreme way and bring out best and worst in eachother... Today the way Jhanak said.., " do naav me sawar hone ka time Gaya" is definitely rude and unnecessary to the extent of Character assacination according to me...It makes her a hypocrite definitely as she herself had made such bold declaration looking into the eyes of a "married" man... in the presence of his wife... Inspite of being his partner in every step..

Jhanak even said..." Abb koi apke Dil me jhaank ke toh nahi dekh Sakta na..." It shows that only loving someone to the point of devotion is not enough... understanding is very very important....There is lot of growth needed for both Aniruddh and Jhanak....She definitely has not reached a stage where she could understand the man " Aniruddh Bose" with all his complications.....

The real strength would be that....when she can be the strength of the person whom she loves so much...The day she will tell him " I am not responsible for Arshi Dii's condition neither are you.", that day I would say she is strong wrt RuNak.. Baaki she has always answered back to him..had been rude to her so many times using worst words, character-assacinating him before as well..(like feeling unsafe etc..) toh it is not something new ....

But one thing is clear from today's episode that she hasn't moved on at all......and neither has she any plan to....She is jealous...she can't tolerate Arshi with Aniruddh....but still she keeps it subtle...expresses it through taunts and those mocking remarks....

This is what frustrating her that even after trying so much...to move on ,going to the extent of not remembering him at all..,it just took one glance at him for her mask to fall....and she is not liking herself for feeling like this , that's why trying to shift the blame on him and releasing her frustration on him.....

Anirudh

He is definitely the weaker one in this equation at this point.... Someone who is soo sooo entangled that he is not finding any way out of it.....

Yes...he has accepted Arshi as his fate...and is trying to move on..but then how will he stop his heart that beats shamelessly when he sees Jhanak....He can't...

He feels he still has that "haq" on her...This feeling of "haq" that made him ask for such sacrifice from him....Not because he wants any return for his favour but simply because he felt he can ask her....and she will understand....His demand was unfair and wrong yet Jhanak gave in...bcz she also acknowledges his "haq" on her....He while talking to Guruji lamenting on the loss of that last thread of " haq" as he thought nothing would be left between them after the demand....

But The feeling of "haq" has only amplified by her bold declaration...When that woman in front of everyone looked into his eyes and told that she can give her life for her...she gave him again that "haq" to care for her,to be protective of her...to ensure her safety...

So with that same "haq" he again went into her room.... Whatever may be the reason but as per him he went there to warn Jhanak regarding Aditya Kapoor...His primary concern is still her safety ...he doesn't trust Aditya Kapoor around Jhanak...his past record and him catching him in drunken state inside Jhanak's room, I would not blame him here....and he becomes such a baby when Jhanak reprimands him for anything..." Tum mujhse aise Kyun baat kar Rahi ho..."

He is still stuck on why Jhanak left without informing him as he feels no matter what happened he at least deserved a "good bye" or a letter at least...He had right to ask...and Jhanak also should have answered him regarding the fire incident and him not trusting her thing...I hope they show that & we get his pov as well....

Today he remained silent before Arshi and Shrishti when they were talking rubbish.. simply bcz there was no point....He very well knows that they don't like Jhanak.. Shrishti even tried to kill her...so no matter what they say they will say the same...And most importantly he is leaving with Shrishti and Arshi...Arshi got the satisfaction of defeating Jhanak...that she always wanted.. Shrishti got the satisfaction of defeating Urvashi's daughter through her daughter..Now why defend Jhanak before them to spite and agitate them against her again....Why make them feel that she is still important for him and will always be there...

Yet after all this,he still could not help but ask her to drop her, knowing the consequences really well..bcz for her safety of Jhanak is always beyond every calculation....he can never risk it....

Now he is stuck with Arshi.... losing every ounce of self-confidence ..he is only trying to perform his duty or responsibility...we all know how misplaced his sense of "zimmedari" is!!! For how long will he be able to carry the "jhoothi shaadi ki zimmedari" is what I want to see... Everyone including Jhanak saying it again and again on his face that she is his wife..how long will he be able to hide the truth..He is really good at supression...., He has been running away from his own truth since a long time... making a lot of mistakes succumbing to misplaced sense of guilt and responsibilities....and now the way he has tied himself in this mess he is only going to suffocated in this clash of his heart and mind.....With AK with Jhanak ..his emotions are gonna come in forefront.... jealousy, over-protectiveness , that sense of "haq" Everything juxtaposing with the zimmedari towards Arshi.....How is he gonna face it....

Will he ever understand how many times he has disappointed her due to his entanglement!!! And how he is unfair to himself....

RuNak

Both of them are in a state when both of them want to move on.... trying to show eachother that they have moved on...but the truth is emotionally both of them are standing right exactly where they had left..., expecting the other to hold hand and walk with him...

Both are still somewhere expecting a lot from eachother..... Probably still expecting acceptance from both the sides.....

Asmi your analysis is top notch...reading your input give me sokoon and reminds me why i love runak despite their flaws.You go very deep and touch the heart.

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Posted: 11 months ago

I have and will always maintain Rekha, that this is a situation that they have both created, both are responsible for it , the contributionโ€™s might be of varying lengths but it is not a 1 and a 0!
You will almost never find me write about J, and the reasons are a few-

1. I generally give her benefit of doubt, because she is a 21year old , and coz of her past!
The fact that she grew up fatherless, and has lived a curse of being a child outside of marriage! And is reminded of it, every single day! And then her momโ€™s death- Thatโ€™s traumatic n a hard reality to come to terms with!

2.I know she is the titular character and she will get her fair share of glory every now and again

3. She is Aniโ€™s love, and she brought out some interesting actions and ways of loving, that made me fall for RuNak and for Aniโ€™s love.

Aniโ€™s love for J caught my eye, it was endearing!

4. J is a linear, uni-dimensional character, such characters donโ€™t excite me to write, as often!

5. I am way too aware of the depth of Jโ€™s love and the sacrifices and sometimes stupidity she has committed for it. Hence was my challenge to her, Robot bannke dikhao zara, ignore every good, bad and ugly that happens to Sirji from here on !
And I fully understand, for an adult that had a childhood with almost non-existent relationships to call her own, it is difficult to handle relationships the way they should be! So while she is in love, she knows not what to do with it. And she fails to jhaako in Sirjiโ€™s dil to try gauge where he is coming from!

6. My sole reason for the post was to highlight both sides of a coin !

I didnโ€™t want it to be another J ki jay jay kar and Ani ki bashing ! We have all been there, done that and rightly so! J is ๐Ÿ’ฏ in the right and Ani is wrong here!

Ek ko gunehgar thehrake , dusre ko glorify karke, haath jhaar ke so gayi, toh phir kya nyaya kiya smiley36smiley44Blame it on the libran in mesmiley1

Lastly, you are absolutely correct, I know these are all fictional characters and they flip quite so often, that it is safer to try not draw parallels with how relationships really work in real life, but thatโ€™s the only way I have to validate their actions as right or not so right smiley1

Originally posted by: sanfan

Super post Sohiniโ€ฆโค๏ธ

I will only step back to say a few things not because I disagree with anything you have written here but merely to give a perspective which I hope finds some resonance with life experiences

one is that we should ideally not expect too much of realism in the way the relationship story starts to unfold in a fictional tale . I agree it doesnโ€™t mean we donโ€™t critique the obvious frailties.. we have all done that time and again.

But just one point. We need to be accepting of foibles or weaknesses of both characters. If we can understand Aniโ€™s vulnerabilities why canโ€™t we be as accepting of Jhanakโ€™s?

To me this story exists until now merely becis these two havenโ€™t found a way to articulate their heartfelt emotions. I always get off the train once the happily ever is achieved as I have no interest in watching how their happily ever turns out๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Life is enough for that smiley37Therefore when I attach myself to a story I remain a bit patient ( hard to often enough) for the narrative to give me signs that they are on that path. I donโ€™t know if Leena is the kind that thwarts for sadistic pleasure then I am on the wrong train for sure!!

my simple take is belowโ€ฆ

What is the experience of a 21 year old of life? And more importantly of serious relationships? How do we expect her to know how to navigate this dilemma? Imagine falling in love with a committed man ( now a married man). She is probably doing much of this as a defense mechanism, it took her great courage to move awayโ€ฆso when faced with what she ran away from, why should I expect her to be immediately introspective? She will have to at some point reflect on why Sirjee is on do naav beyond this dialoguebaazi..

Believe me, I will defend Ani in a similar way as I recognise he is in some conflict so unless I know the cause, I canโ€™t make my mind whether I need to get off the train!

However despite everything I say above About the morbid scenarios that Leena might takeโ€ฆ I would stick to the advice you have written in your post!!

I seriously welcome all views on this.. no holds barred coz we only grow with different perspectives.

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Posted: 11 months ago

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Originally posted by: MMR2810


I skipped that song...so no comments...


And I will give my life for him..she said it's not because of love it's because of ehasaan he done for her.
I beg to differ, while she herself tags it as โ€œehsaanโ€ to rile up Ani, coz thatโ€™s never the reason Ani wants to hear, I saw on stage a girl selflessly, unconditionally and dedicatedly in love with her Sirji! I saw pure love that would make her do anything khushi khushi for her Sirji ! Itโ€™s a love too precious and hard to come across these days! With everything that God has not given Ani, God has given him some one whoโ€™s love for him is genuinely beshumarsmiley27

And more over..she is not chasing him, she is not following him. She is not interfering in his life..not going to his room at midnight chupke chupke.
I agree, and if Ani genuinely stopped caring , stop chasing her , middle of the night- mostly coz thatโ€™s the time he managed to escape the eyes of S and A, we would be back to the 1 month of separation track , where we were eagerly waiting for RuNak to meet! Maybe not the ones who have moved on from RuNak, but the ones who are still rooting for them!

If Ani genuinely stopped caring for J, It would however give Ani the much needed relief and peace , and may be the viewers a closure or maybe not? Coz viewers ke sare umeed e bhi toh Ani se hi hai, if he runs behind J viewers have a problem, if he stays mute with S and A, viewers have a problem!

If viewers have accepted that Ani is committed to A, then why complain when he stays mute when S and A bad mouths J?

While I would believe he remained mute, to avoid creating a scene in a public arena, which would be the case, if he supported J there , I saw him still going ahead in front of S and A, and offering J a lift, partly cos he is jealous of AK and partly coz he thinks AK is a threat for J. And Jโ€™s safety and dignity, has been a priority for Ani that made him go ahead with RuNak marriage in Kashmir! AK has intentionally given Ani villain vibes with โ€œAbb J ko jitne ki bari meri, abb use main jitungaโ€ while giving J just the opposite vibe with main tumse flirt nehi karunga or I donโ€™t have any ill intentions!

[Side note - I genuinely hope, they let AK be a selfless well wisher and friend of J, do not reduce him to an a**hole Leena, let him be]

In theory , it looks right to expect Ani to genuinely move on and stop caring for J , given that he has vouched to be with Arshi for life ! But inn muh bole baaton se pare , ek dil bhi toh hai, jo dhadakta hai, ek dil jo maanta nehi. The same dil that makes J yearn for her Sirji, from the stage, look at him with pure love in her eyes ! Kambaqt dil hi toh hai, jo in dono ko robot banne se rok raha hai! Aur shayad ek din J se bulwaye, ki main janti hu, apne jo kiya woh q kiya? I understand you, I get you!

Coming to Ani, if I saw a genuine compulsive flirt and two-timer in him, a playboy that loves to play with two girls or more, if I saw some one that does not value commitments and is up for any girl that comes his way , some one that is genuinelyโ€™ characterless , similar to the likes of Tejas - I would agree and accept the do nao pe sawar dialogue with no qualms!

I see in him, a human being with endless flaws, who struggles with relationships, and appears to be a two-timer coz of his non-commital, confused, weak, quick fixing attitude! - All of which have doomed him to the place he is in today !
He is suffering and will suffer even more in the future, coz he doesnโ€™t know how to handle his emotions or his relationships!

But I also see a human being who is soft-hearted , swayed by people who face a do or die situation and fails to judge people for what they are ! Logo ki samajh nehi hai ise !
I look at him like that prodigal child, and I refuse to give up on him , I donโ€™t support his actions of course, I can see how stupid he is, but his inherent innate goodness, would never let me abandon him!

Edited by rysohini - 11 months ago
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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae

I agree with you.

I didnt not like this episode , not because they are degrading Anirudh . Its been like this for quite sometime.

But for making all others so good and then making him look like a villian. Do they even realise what they are making him say. Complete contradictory dialogues ...its so bad.

Jhanak became strong , how because she back answered Anirudh. Or she taunted him on behalf of the viewers. In that taunts she too became mahan . Why did they make her say its time to be on one boat..what a rubbish dialogue. Now now she is all clear ,she never cheated her Arshi didi ,it was all him alone.

For her Arshi was so much in love with Anirudh and that is why she wanted him to be with her . She pushed him to Arshi. But all of a sudden she realised Arshi taunts him and maa beti will make his life hell.How did she come to know all this when she didnt even remember him while in mumbai .... what rubbish is that to show Arshi and Shristi manipulating Anirudh against Jhanak when all through he knew they dont like her at all. How can they make him so dumb...

Its better to erase his character than make the viewers feel sorry for him who watched him from day one .Even the actor deserves better.

Sad feeling daily after watching Anirudh.

And since Jhanak is strong the way trp audience and most female viewers would love, taunting the male lead , trp would increase too..so our dream of them together is gone with toofan ...๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿ’”

Since no script , let Krushal himself write his character as he knows him better than Leena.๐Ÿค๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜


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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: rysohini

My comments added inline-

A good explanation Soh. I love reading your take. โค๏ธ

I feel like I can explain myself better in the heart about my expectations and feelings regarding RuNak and simply canโ€™t express the same in words.

I am one of those who gets easily disappointed with the makers weak writing and how Anirudh and Jhanak have been utilized in the story. I criticize both for their imperfections and shortcomings, feel hurt and unsatisfied but still root for them with a tiny bit of hope. Again I donโ€™t think I would be able to put one in front to accuse or the other. I have always felt like some of you here that there has been a lot on their shoulders, they have been combating with their own inner demons and still not able to stand for what their heart feels. Their humanity is much greater than their love for each other. Selfless and determine, they wonโ€™t let each other have each other until they themselves allow the much needed confrontation they tend to avoid. Be it anything that comes their way which may infuriates them, but in the end their selfless and irresistible love will have them check on each other no matter where their fate takes them.

What you explained regarding Ani and Jhanak Soh, I donโ€™t need to add much to it. You have very well explained the core of their traits and what they do and why they do certain things. Itโ€™s very irritating but I guess thatโ€™s how RuNak are and we just have to deal with their slow pace love realization. However, about AK I really hope his presence can help RuNak in some way whether negatively or positively he is brought to maybe bridge the gap between the two.

Arshi buht hogaya, uske saath jealousy with Jhanak bhi hogayiโ€ฆ I want to see if the โ€œfarkโ€ actually affects Anirudh the same way. I donโ€™t think heโ€™ll scream or misbehave like in the past, but I want him to claim in different ways that can clearly be like โ€œshe is my girl, stay away from herโ€.

Edited by Manoshono - 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: rysohini

I have and will always maintain Rekha, that this is a situation that they have both created, both are responsible for it , the contributionโ€™s might be of varying lengths but it is not a 1 and a 0!
You will almost never find me write about J, and the reasons are a few-

1. I generally give her benefit of doubt, because she is a 21year old , and coz of her past!
The fact that she grew up fatherless, and has lived a curse of being a child outside of marriage! And is reminded of it, every single day! And then her momโ€™s death- Thatโ€™s traumatic n a hard reality to come to terms with!

2.I know she is the titular character and she will get her fair share of glory every now and again

3. She is Aniโ€™s love, and she brought out some interesting actions and ways of loving, that made me fall for RuNak and for Aniโ€™s love.

Aniโ€™s love for J caught my eye, it was endearing!

4. J is a linear, uni-dimensional character, such characters donโ€™t excite me to write, as often!

5. I am way too aware of the depth of Jโ€™s love and the sacrifices and sometimes stupidity she has committed for it. Hence was my challenge to her, Robot bannke dikhao zara, ignore every good, bad and ugly that happens to Sirji from here on !
And I fully understand, for an adult that had a childhood with almost non-existent relationships to call her own, it is difficult to handle relationships the way they should be! So while she is in love, she knows not what to do with it. And she fails to jhaako in Sirjiโ€™s dil to try gauge where he is coming from!

6. My sole reason for the post was to highlight both sides of a coin !

I didnโ€™t want it to be another J ki jay jay kar and Ani ki bashing ! We have all been there, done that and rightly so! J is ๐Ÿ’ฏ in the right and Ani is wrong here!

Ek ko gunehgar thehrake , dusre ko glorify karke, haath jhaar ke so gayi, toh phir kya nyaya kiya smiley36smiley44Blame it on the libran in mesmiley1

Lastly, you are absolutely correct, I know these are all fictional characters and they flip quite so often, that it is safer to try not draw parallels with how relationships really work in real life, but thatโ€™s the only way I have to validate their actions as right or not so right smiley1

Hey Soh

I agree again with almost all things here especially ๐Ÿ’ฏ that J is a uni dimensional, linear character and I have written this in the past too that itโ€™s difficult to write much on her. I never wrote about her until the Mumbai track As opposed to Ani who is layered and so lovingly fleshed out by the writer. Even the writer though in love with Ani has given a difficult arc to his character as she has given so many facets to the character.

Having said that, the love story itself had a compelling angle to me in how they would treat this literally a one page plot!!

However now I am getting it howโ€ฆ by stretching this tale like a chewing gum ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ which is why even people who are are on the same page are having such lengthy discussions

Bold - I have a Libran ascendant so I recognise this trait well enough ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
But while I recognise the injustice of how this characters will receive treatment at the hands of the writer.. I realise it is because the male character is given some unique flaws and featuresโ€ฆ while the female character is given flaws and features that can be largely blamed on youthful inexperience and her upbringing. Itโ€™s the bias of the writer of which nothing can be done about. That this is ITV is another bummer

For me this story was simply about Jhanak gaining experience of the world to decipher the meaning of love for loveโ€™s sake and reciprocate Aniโ€™s love without inhibitions and Ani learning the difficult tale about means and ends..

I expected the narrative to lead to the stage with both gaining understanding of each other weaknesses and appreciating the goodness in the other.

Also if left to me, the way I would posit the story further is Ani gaining understanding of Jhanakโ€™s inhibitions in the past which led her to not accept Aniโ€™s love (she was well within her rights to not accept his love even with all the inhibitions and Ani should/would have accepted that too)

To me this is subtly happening in this tale where he is forced to be situation that even if Jhanak were to ask him to leave Arshi he canโ€™t atm) Similarly I am hoping for Jhanak Rani to realise what she was sacrificing her love for.. was it worth it?

I enjoyed having this discussion with you Sohiniโ€ฆ I think there is no divergence in views just we are interpreting a few things a bit differently and that too a fictional tale. My English teacher used to always encourage us to delve deeper into the texts to search for meanings with reference to the context and she used to quote that โ€œ Prose exists to convey meaning, and no meaning such as prose conveys can be expressed as well in poetry. That is not poetryโ€™s purposeโ€ so dig deeper she used to say and the habit stuck!!

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Posted: 11 months ago

Episode up

Precap - all are in patrty

Anchor requests Aditya to sing a song for them.

Aditya agree and says I will and I need a dancing partner so I request my friend Jhanak to join with me.

J is bit uncomfortable...Adithya and Jhanak sings together..and also j dances


Ani - mainey tumhari barey Mey galatsocha. I thought you have feelings for me.


When does he realized she has feelings for him? If he realized then why he married Arshi? Only Ani and God knew about it.๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ

Jhanak ' in her monologue this song is for you sirji.


Note - who are not interested in updates plz let me know..

So I don't tag them.

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Originally posted by: sanfan

Hey Soh

I agree again with almost all things here especially ๐Ÿ’ฏ that J is a uni dimensional, linear character and I have written this in the past too that itโ€™s difficult to write much on her. I never wrote about her until the Mumbai track As opposed to Ani who is layered and so lovingly fleshed out by the writer. Even the writer though in love with Ani has given a difficult arc to his character as she has given so many facets to the character.

Having said that, the love story itself had a compelling angle to me in how they would treat this literally a one page plot!!

However now I am getting it howโ€ฆ by stretching this tale like a chewing gum ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ which is why even people who are are on the same page are having such lengthy discussions

Bold - I have a Libran ascendant so I recognise this trait well enough ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
But while I recognise the injustice of how this characters will receive treatment at the hands of the writer.. I realise it is because the male character is given some unique flaws and featuresโ€ฆ while the female character is given flaws and features that can be largely blamed on youthful inexperience and her upbringing. Itโ€™s the bias of the writer of which nothing can be done about. That this is ITV is another bummer

For me this story was simply about Jhanak gaining experience of the world to decipher the meaning of love for loveโ€™s sake and reciprocate Aniโ€™s love without inhibitions and Ani learning the difficult tale about means and ends..

I expected the narrative to lead to the stage with both gaining understanding of each other weaknesses and appreciating the goodness in the other.

Also if left to me, the way I would posit the story further is Ani gaining understanding of Jhanakโ€™s inhibitions in the past which led her to not accept Aniโ€™s love (she was well within her rights to not accept his love even with all the inhibitions and Ani should/would have accepted that too)

To me this is subtly happening in this tale where he is forced to be situation that even if Jhanak were to ask him to leave Arshi he canโ€™t atm) Similarly I am hoping for Jhanak Rani to realise what she was sacrificing her love for.. was it worth it?

I enjoyed having this discussion with you Sohiniโ€ฆ I think there is no divergence in views just we are interpreting a few things a bit differently and that too a fictional tale. My English teacher used to always encourage us to delve deeper into the texts to search for meanings with reference to the context and she used to quote that โ€œ Prose exists to convey meaning, and no meaning such as prose conveys can be expressed as well in poetry. That is not poetryโ€™s purposeโ€ so dig deeper she used to say and the habit stuck!!

Love all of your write ups, Sohini , Rekha, Maya and my most fav- Asmi โค๏ธ All of you are star writers of this forum ..๐Ÿ˜Š

Rekha, special regards to your Eng mam! She has produced an excellent writer in you..๐Ÿ˜Šโค๏ธ

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Posted: 11 months ago

Love your post but can relate with Rekhaโ€™s comments more.
For me itโ€™s not a balance where you weigh their actions and call one or the other out.
Being in a position of power wrt money, family support, age, experience, stability, respect - in all areas Ani has a significant advantage over J.
Hence he will be judged more harshly. J even surviving in a toxic house like BH is a credit to her. The few times she has given in to her feelings over her stance regarding Ani Arshi relationship cannot be equated with the number of times Ani stood by and watched mute while J was insulted or insulted her himself.
I like Ani in spite of what he has done bcos his intent has always been good. Do I want to see Runak? of course but when the playing ground is stable and both have introspected their actions. I want to see Ani realizing his mistakes and paying for his deeds as he deserves whatever he is getting. Itโ€™s not black or white - Team Ani or Team Jhanak. Itโ€™s the whole show. Do I enjoy Adi yes I do. It should not be itโ€™s either Adi or Ani - we can like both and enjoy Jโ€™s journey with both. I like the current situation because itโ€™s something new. It was lovely watching Ani protect J in his own wrong yet contrived way for the first 200 episodes. What a character - manipulative but only for Jhanak yet honoring his promises to Arshi. But for how long. Do I want to watch the same for the next 100 - no? The story had to move forward. As long as Leena keeps core characteristics of a character intact and the story is logical I will enjoy it. So far however low Ani has dropped - itโ€™s consistent with the story and his characterization. I always knew the story would go this way, and also feel even if Runak get together they will always have a troubled life. One itโ€™s itv and also dependent on how the story has been crafted thus far.
Also I hear so many comments that Krushal should leave the show. Why?? He is playing the part of a weak but good man and doing a damn fine job of it. If actors only took on roles where the character would be an upstanding citizen an ideal son friend husband etc. that would be detrimental to the actor. With Jhanak he is getting to play a wide gamut of behaviors. All the better for his career. He will be happy that he gets to explore this wide range. He should be trolled for Ani and hailed as Krushal.

Last, have to say after all this my tolerance ends where Ani Arshi equation is concerned

Show Ani barely tolerating her, Arshi manipulating Ani, Ani unhappy; all fine. The minute I see pda from them Iโ€™m out. I will not like to see their marriage get registered. Letโ€™s see how brave or stupid Lena is.

I donโ€™t think Ani will continue to run after J. They will likely show Ani being brainwashed by Arshi to suspecting J and Adi and then think Arshi is the best wife, making the Runak rift wider. Another 100 episodes for any romantic Runak.

Originally posted by: sanfan

Super post Sohiniโ€ฆโค๏ธ

I will only step back to say a few things not because I disagree with anything you have written here but merely to give a perspective which I hope finds some resonance with life experiences

one is that we should ideally not expect too much of realism in the way the relationship story starts to unfold in a fictional tale . I agree it doesnโ€™t mean we donโ€™t critique the obvious frailties.. we have all done that time and again.

But just one point. We need to be accepting of foibles or weaknesses of both characters. If we can understand Aniโ€™s vulnerabilities why canโ€™t we be as accepting of Jhanakโ€™s?

To me this story exists until now merely becis these two havenโ€™t found a way to articulate their heartfelt emotions. I always get off the train once the happily ever is achieved as I have no interest in watching how their happily ever turns out๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Life is enough for that smiley37Therefore when I attach myself to a story I remain a bit patient ( hard to often enough) for the narrative to give me signs that they are on that path. I donโ€™t know if Leena is the kind that thwarts for sadistic pleasure then I am on the wrong train for sure!!

my simple take is belowโ€ฆ

What is the experience of a 21 year old of life? And more importantly of serious relationships? How do we expect her to know how to navigate this dilemma? Imagine falling in love with a committed man ( now a married man). She is probably doing much of this as a defense mechanism, it took her great courage to move awayโ€ฆso when faced with what she ran away from, why should I expect her to be immediately introspective? She will have to at some point reflect on why Sirjee is on do naav beyond this dialoguebaazi..

Believe me, I will defend Ani in a similar way as I recognise he is in some conflict so unless I know the cause, I canโ€™t make my mind whether I need to get off the train!

However despite everything I say above About the morbid scenarios that Leena might takeโ€ฆ I would stick to the advice you have written in your post!!

I seriously welcome all views on this.. no holds barred coz we only grow with different perspectives.

Edited by PPak - 11 months ago

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