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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Virgo27

Yeah true.. Kuch ankhai did big time dirty to Bilal. He was sidelined like A supporting actor ..


Seriously ... What was Bilal thinking? smiley13

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Kaddu made money from TB from the high TRPs but not from YT Views.

I have been listening to Ahmed Ali Butt's podcast, and he is always bringing up the issue of copyrights, profit-sharing and royalties. Apparently, when PHs make a show, they sell it to channels and get paid a lumpsum sale price plus some profit-sharing based on revenue from advertising on live TV (high TRP means more ads and a higher price per ad). But PHs don't see a penny of YT revenue. That goes 100% to the channel. The drama copyright also belongs to the channel. PHs don't see any revenue if the channel re-sells the drama to another platform.

I think one of the reasons PHs want to do part 2 of their successful IPs is to get a better deal from channels for their part 2s that they couldn't get for part 1s. For instance, the first time when they sold TB to GEO, Kaddu wouldn't have known TB would be such a hit, so the deal they got from GEO would have been a standard deal, which means no share in YT revenue, regular base price, etc.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Kaddu made money from TB from the high TRPs but not from YT Views.

I have been listening to Ahmed Ali Butt's podcast, and he is always bringing up the issue of copyrights, profit-sharing and royalties. Apparently, when PHs make a show, they sell it to channels and get paid a lumpsum sale price plus some profit-sharing based on revenue from advertising on live TV (high TRP means more ads and a higher price per ad). But PHs don't see a penny of YT revenue. That goes 100% to the channel. The drama copyright also belongs to the channel. PHs don't see any revenue if the channel re-sells the drama to another platform.

I think one of the reasons PHs want to do part 2 of their successful IPs is to get a better deal from channels for their part 2s that they couldn't get for part 1s. For instance, the first time when they sold TB to GEO, Kaddu wouldn't have known TB would be such a hit, so the deal they got from GEO would have been a standard deal, which means no share in YT revenue, regular base price, etc.

Makes sense but I doubt that kaddu might not be taking some % of revenue generated from YT views. Cos he’s into business since long and he must have figured something out for youtube views as well from his other shows.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: WabalMunni


Lol... the word chemistry got 'hit' after Terebin so no definitely not Yumhaj because they showed what chemistry actually is and they keep on showing it in every PS and every photoshoot. So people casting them because of chemistry is quite logical because they have proved it they can do it multiple times. Romance is not trash. I wouldn't call ITV's IPKKND or other shows trash. It is a different genre that people like.


But that Mein OST and that video was actually laughable looking at the story of Mein. This is known as trying to ride on 'chemistry wave'. Freeloading you knowsmiley36


And the funniest was Maria B's 'IT couple'. How the IT 'couple' was 'itting' so much in Mein .. Goshsmiley37

smiley36 I am sorry to interrupt you but chemistry existed in ptv way before TB and that might be your personal opinion but not everybody thinks the same way. They tried to sell mein with chemistry tag but the story was not written that way to actually see any chemistry in mein.smiley36 But the same could be said about gentleman too. Its vice versa. The same way gentleman was declared the biggest drama of the year. Its the channel who do these things to stay relevant and to promote and hype smiley36 even if they are using the actors they are paying for it.
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

There is something called "PEMRA", I don't know what is their job but mostly people mention it when there are romantic scenes

Fairy tales fans often used this word in their tweets and I always assumed that they were talking about director of their show who is not letting actors do romantic scenes smiley36

lol yeahsmiley37 they restrict romance in ptv.smiley37
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Witchofthewest

Makes sense but I doubt that kaddu might not be taking some % of revenue generated from YT views. Cos he’s into business since long and he must have figured something out for youtube views as well from his other shows.


That is what Ahmed Ali Butt said. Right now, no PH gets a penny of YT views. But now there are discussions going on how this could be changed.

Part 2s of successful IPs or a project with upfront huge branding are two types of projects where PHs can have leverage to negotiate YT revenue sharing upfront and have it written in contracts.

When TB was first sold to GEO, it was a standard 8 pm product and contracts would have been standard too.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad


That is what Ahmed Ali Butt said. Right now, no PH gets a penny of YT views. But now there are discussions going on how this could be changed.

Part 2s of successful IPs or a project with upfront huge branding are two types of projects where PHs can have leverage to negotiate YT revenue sharing upfront and have it written in contracts.

When TB was first sold to GEO, it was a standard 8 pm product and contracts would have been standard too.

so according to you, who got the most benefit out of it in monetary terms? Channel with views or ph with trps?
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Posted: 1 years ago

Don't know why whenever Yumhaj fans talk about their bond or friendship some people deliberately bring Maya wahaj friendship.

Good luck to Maya and wahaj for their deep and old friendship but how its connects to Yumhaj??

Yumhaj are old friends or not its not a matter of concern.Fans love how they respect each other, always talk about each other with high regards and this is what we love about them and there is no need of comparison. Its not a wining trophy.. We love them and its matters the most ❤❤

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Witchofthewest

smiley36 I am sorry to interrupt you but chemistry existed in ptv way before TB and that might be your personal opinion but not everybody thinks the same way. They tried to sell mein with chemistry tag but the story was not written that way to actually see any chemistry in mein.smiley36 But the same could be said about gentleman too. Its vice versa. The same way gentleman was declared the biggest drama of the year. Its the channel who do these things to stay relevant and to promote and hype smiley36 even if they are using the actors they are paying for it.


Lol.. chemistry 'might' have existed but it was never a 'hit' like it is now. Thanks to Yumhaj and Terebin for it. As I said they showed how it is donesmiley20


Also I think you are missing the point. Marketing a show which is essentially a romance genre based on leads chemistry is nothing wrong. The problem with Mein was not that they talked about chemistry. The problem was that they did the false marketing and tried to fool people. When I say trying to ride 'chemistry wave and freeloading' .. this IS what I mean i.e. thopofying chemistry where it essentially does not fit in like Mein which did not have anything to do with chemistry. So yes doing the right marketing for the right product is important. Romance genre dramas SHOULD HAVE chemistry between the leads and makers can promote it. Ab 'love story' main chemistry nahin hogi tou aur hoga kia phir? smiley1


Also, Gentleman was never sold on the basis of chemistry although it IS a love story essentially and it would not have been wrong to do so. Every member of the cast and crew has always talked about how different the writing of Gentleman is and its execution and plot being different. Even in the square table Humayun shut down the question of chemistry from Aamna right away. smiley36 It is audience that watched the teasers, heard the song tumhari chup and started shipping Munzar/Humna. Though, jori name might have been decided through poll before Gentleman. I mean can anybody imagine that some people actually criticize Gentleman because they think Gentleman was promoted as an action adventure genre but it turned out to be a romance. smiley36 and yes it IS still the biggest drama of the year for Green. smiley20

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: WabalMunni


Seriously ... What was Bilal thinking? smiley13

I think he was misguided. He was not happy i remember he didn't promote this drama that much

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