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Posted: 1 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: vira76

they are not done with this ani-arshi marriage track. it's going to continue in Kolkata. and that is the most frustrating part for me. What was the point of this Kashmir track if this is what they wanted to show...

Yeh for me as well Ani - arshi marriage is that is the end of the show!

yep this Anishi marriage drama hasn’t ended yet. But I don’t think another one is coming up so soon. Kashmir track will probably end with Ani Jhanak accepting their marriage after being pressured by the villagers. So we will get bhar bhar ke hall drama before another Anishi marriage drama. smiley36
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Posted: 1 years ago
#32

How did I even miss this post!


Till yesterday many our gals convince me about his selfless love. I am not too sure if I would want to 100% believe on that saying.


I have no doubt on Ani’s consistent favors for Jhanak out of respect, love or concern, but the question is about his consistency with his feelings. He has been dragging his feelings everywhere and anywhere. I don’t know whether he is way too overwhelmed or being mounted by responsibilities, commitments, and consents, he’s becoming weak and disoriented and it sucks!


I expected much more than that with Anirudh mainly because he is Alpha and has always been so. Fearless and dominant, more like my way or highway kind of a thing. Sticking to his beliefs and morals. Now it seems like, he was faking it all this time. The writers have been so disappointing after rain episode with Anirudh’s confusing state that I don’t know if they are actually trying to make their audience understand from a different aspect. However it maybe, it’s really not working sorry smiley36


He loves Arshi, he doesn’t feel comfortable with the physical intimacy with her.


He confessed to Jhanak, but he doesn’t believe in the marriage with her fully.


He wants Jhanak to accept the reality of their marriage, but doesn’t want to stop his marriage with Arshi!


Then comes Rahul and Jhanak’s wedding. He wants Jhanak to understand his feelings but he is setting her with Rahul.


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Posted: 1 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: tellyme

you know if he marries Arshi, I will never want him back in Jhanak’s. I don’t ship for that kind of uncertain love.

I will then be least interested in any of Ani’s track, even if they show his deep love and care for J. Meaningless it will be for me.


I will then watch only for J. Anyways, I am least interested in any bit of Arshi’s track. I’d story will watch only that.

Let him have SR with Arshi.. who cares


most of us are glued to the forum than the serial! And to keep the discussions relevant we are forcefully watching the episodes! Who wants to watch the story where every third day there is a wedding planned with one of the leads ! Or who wants to watch the female lead getting bashed every minute of her screen time!

Even in real life there’s balance between good and bad! This is still virtual.. on top of it showing regressive crap! When I look at those 50’s 69’s vaali movies,dil khush ho jata hai! So much better in terms of forward thinking and social reforms etc.. story telling was also great ! Ab despite pretty faces and tech advancements there’s no great story to tell ! 😡 same cut copy paste every where ! Ufff..

Bechare actors some of them are really talented but have to go with the flow!!

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Posted: 1 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Edkv74


most of us are glued to the forum than the serial! And to keep the discussions relevant we are forcefully watching the episodes! Who wants to watch the story where every third day there is a wedding planned with one of the leads ! Or who wants to watch the female lead getting bashed every minute of her screen time!

Even in real life there’s balance between good and bad! This is still virtual.. on top of it showing regressive crap! When I look at those 50’s 69’s vaali movies,dil khush ho jata hai! So much better in terms of forward thinking and social reforms etc.. story telling was also great ! Ab despite pretty faces and tech advancements there’s no great story to tell ! 😡 same cut copy paste every where ! Ufff..

Bechare actors some of them are really talented but have to go with the flow!!

@bold....this i totally agree...we r watching the show only so we can come here & talksmiley36, not to watch the show or have any interest..for the current tracksmiley36
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Posted: 1 years ago
#35

Exactly, I don't even how to react now as after that rainy date night, ring- ceremony, Such deep convo I can't live without you, subconscious I love you & many more moments we are back to this 😕😕😕



Like he is the same boy, Who didn't reply to Arshi's I love you on his Birthday, he was so hesitant that day & suddenly this all and that Precap... Humare beech koi nahi aa sakta🙃🙃🙃




I Just... I'm not able to connect with his character honestly




Originally posted by: vira76

To think that we are trying to so hard to like these characters and writers are probably not even putting that much thought to connect the dots... It's just infuriating!

They give the character an amazing love realization but then take it away the next moment

They show him caring, loving, and attracted to someone and then the next moment they just take it away with him blushing, smiling, and hugging a stonehead! 🙄



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Posted: 1 years ago
#36

Yup unnecessary PDA

Originally posted by: Sampada_14

Exactly, I don't even how to react now as after that rainy date night, ring- ceremony, Such deep convo I can't live without you, subconscious I love you & many more moments we are back to this 😕😕😕



Like he is the same boy, Who didn't reply to Arshi's I love you on his Birthday, he was so hesitant that day & suddenly this all and that Precap... Humare beech koi nahi aa sakta🙃🙃🙃




I Just... I'm not able to connect with his character honestly




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Posted: 1 years ago
#37

From precap which looked like next day after the wedding night doesn’t look like ani has accepted marriage and neither has jhanak !

Originally posted by: happy007

yep this Anishi marriage drama hasn’t ended yet. But I don’t think another one is coming up so soon. Kashmir track will probably end with Ani Jhanak accepting their marriage after being pressured by the villagers. So we will get bhar bhar ke hall drama before another Anishi marriage drama. smiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Yeh that’s why I was so mad looking at the bts ! Everyone was thanking pandit to stop the marriage but I was not. Patrali said in the interview that ani arshi marriage still on paper after going back to Kolkata… so that is my guess. My hope is only on rahul confession to jhanak … if she gets mad at ani and say something by mistake otherwise I have no hope for a good future track

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae


Really , more shadi track in Kolkata ...

For what 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

This is all mess yaar .

Then why couldn't they show an exam track and kidnap alone in Kashmir .

God , these makers are mad !!!

Hate this shadi shadi...

Aren't they bored of writing an shooting this shadi...

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Posted: 1 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Edkv74


most of us are glued to the forum than the serial! And to keep the discussions relevant we are forcefully watching the episodes! Who wants to watch the story where every third day there is a wedding planned with one of the leads ! Or who wants to watch the female lead getting bashed every minute of her screen time!

Even in real life there’s balance between good and bad! This is still virtual.. on top of it showing regressive crap! When I look at those 50’s 69’s vaali movies,dil khush ho jata hai! So much better in terms of forward thinking and social reforms etc.. story telling was also great ! Ab despite pretty faces and tech advancements there’s no great story to tell ! 😡 same cut copy paste every where ! Ufff..

Bechare actors some of them are really talented but have to go with the flow!!



Honestly compare to all starplus Fls jhanak character is very poorly written

..every FL has some goal in her life....



But here, she is very meek submissive and Mahan type. .

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Posted: 1 years ago
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smiley32 well captured analysis smiley12 enjoyed reading it. Here is a counter smiley1


1. Why does Ani not proclaim love to J - yes agreed he has tried to many times, quite clearly to share hsi feeliings with J, but while he is hinting and flirting with J, he is also telling Arshi he loves her at every juncture, even with J in full earshot. What value is Anis' interest in J when he always goes back to Arshi. In fact he has said that, he will always find his way back to Arshi. Do you want J to take Ani's words seriously?. J has proclaimed her love so much more openly than Ani and many times. He just does not want to listen and understand. You think when he realizes he will layega buchaal, J already said during Avinash marriage track that acknowledging her love will cause bawaal, and Ani thinks he is talking abt Rahul.????..what bawaal will shaadi with Rahul cause? Ani has issues. While he feels intensely, when he wants something, he is so afraid of it that he cant see the truth.

2 fold answer, - 1. he cannot read signals J has clearly sent (why is a red flag) and 2. he consistently sends out mixed signals. If J really thought Ani loved her, she would expect him to still keep his commitments, but is it unreasonable to expect that he avoids open declarations of love and eagerness to marry Arshi asap.

You spoke of consent. Ani def does not seek consent from Jhanak in any aspect other than expressing love? Where is consent when he semi - forcefully kept her in BH, made her participate in his office show, took her shopping, out to a hotel, do ads, removed her dupatta in the hut, no end here. J for whatever reason told Ani she wants to go with Tejas, yet Ani without her consent held her back for her own good. That means for him her well being is more important than consent, no?

One more - sorry an edit. Where is consent in keeping her dad's truth and mom's letter from her. This is totally unacceptable. Who is he to decide what is good. If something happens to him, she will never learn the truth. Unbelievable control complex here. He needs to be part of her life.

2. Why does Ani want Rahul to marry J - I agree with your response, yet again he is doing this without her explicit consent. She is an adult who left him behind in Calcutta to come to Kashmir per him for Rahul. What is his business in fixing this relationship? If she wants and Rahul wants they will figure it out. They don't really need him to play Cupid. Ani has such a ownership feeling wrt J it is downright scary.

3.Why does he not proclaim his love to the world? Even though Ani has tried to communicate his feelings with J he has never given a hint of this to anyone else. Even with choton, he has never accepted his love. What badnaami for J with proclaiming his love. Exact opposite is happening here. J is seen as someone who is seducing Ani, bcos he claims he loves Arshi and only has zimmedari for J. If he becomes a man, and says he loves J and is doing all these things for her, the BH cannot accuse J of doing her best to trap Ani. Him keeping quiet is not helping her, its adding to her be-izzati, because BH is saying Ani loves Arshi - so his obsession with J is instiagted by J, and Ani is bola.

4. Why should J break the wedding? I feel very strongly here. Why should she? What confirmation she has that Ani loves her and not Arshi - mind reading? or a few occasions of flirting and words like tu berehem hai? I agree Ani's actions showed his care for J over Arshi, but with every incident end, Ani proclaims love for Arshi and his eagerness to marry her. Ani has never made J feel she is his world and Arshi means nothing. Everything he has done will make J think Ani wants her on the side and Arshi for his wife. He said he cannot think of life without her, did he ever ask her to accept the marriage, The one time he broached it, the timing made it seem like he did it to get sexual favors,he could not control himself, his words too - the climate the rain made him say it??? J asked the right question, why are you saying this -what do you want???

Ani is not a bachha for J to save him from himself, he has put her in the same position her mom died to get her out of...beizzati...he violated the purpose of her mothers death to satisfy his own need to "protect" her. How many times J has told him, her wish was to get away from BH and to let her go? She attempted suicide to get away from him, it shows she was not speaking juts like that. She felt the beizzati was worse than dying, yet Ani disregarded her wishes and made his better counsel to save her from herself. When J finds outher mom committed suicide to free her from be-izzati and Ani dumped her into more of it how will she reconcile with this? BH has called her besharam, behaya, what not? J has gone from being a strong willed spunky girl to a very docile subservient version of her, because of all she has faced at BH. She may have fared better in the shelter house.

Also J has been a shield for Ani in many scenarios, saved him from villagers, offered herself as sacrifice each time to keep safe and happy with his family and Arshi by going with Tejas. Effort in a relationship can be diff percentages across the board, but respect, love and standing in a relationship has to be 50-50. Ani has never considered J a 50% equal. The day of the patt bhawaal, Ani courtesously requests Arshi to come to his room to speak, and then orders J to go to her room. Arshi, Vinayak and others have spoke of how Ani needs to control J.

Best interst for J is to not interfere with the wedding. If Ani is truly in love with her, he will not and cannot marry another girl. After recognizing he cannot even hug Arshi he went to marry her and put sindoor even after pandit tells him not to. He has had so many excuses to postpone the wedding. Yet he is always eager to jump to get married asap to Arshi.

If J stops the wedding she will forever be called marriage wrecker. Even with doing nothing she has this tag, imagine the be-izzati she has t endure all her life. Knowing Ani's personality, if she does something to upset him, he may even bring up that she was the one who broke his relationship with Arshi. So glad she stuck to her guns and did not call the wedding off. I knew she would not. It would become untenable for her.

Also J can live with out Ani, he is the one who is needier.

5. Why dioes Ani not stop his wedding with Arshi - Vira nailed it - Its because he values his commitment to Arshi in terms of years spent, more than his love for J. Lets say J does not love him and is marrying R. OK -so if not J, then Arshi?

Ani is marrying Arshi, lying to her that he loves her, while he loves J and will imagine Arshi as J. What kind of wimp is he? If he had the guts to tell Arshi - I love J, but to honor my commitment I will marry you, thats a true man. Again here he is taking Arshi's consent to a loveless marriage away from her. Arshi is resigned to a loveless marriage and still wants Ani, but he does not know this. What kind of person is he to marry Arshi without telling her he loves another. The way he desperately wants to marry Arshi at any cost is so off putting, unless there is good reason, he has just lost all respect from me.

Somewhere Ani has to feel something for Arshi. Maybe not love or physical attraction, but there is a strong feeling here that makes him willing enough to sacrifice his entire life. I would not underestimate this feeling if I were Jhanak. It will come back to haunt her later, his guilt his need to redress the wrong done to her, esp if she cannot move on. Here banshee has openly told J she will never let her have Ani even if she has to be in a loveless relationship.

Sorry yaar long post and yes its very anti-Ani. Sorry if I offended you or any Ani lovers. Its just mean tto be a counter argument to yours. I defended him very much yesterday and Ja lso is to blame but def not equally. I was drawn to Runak for their story. The makers just destroyed the guys image. I think they are building his grey shades for later conflict and that makes me worried for my own sanity.. Im sure when he actually sees J with R or realizes that J does not love R all his ownership feeling for J will surface and she will also get weak esp if Ani gets hurt, but nothing will take away the bad taste he has brought to all the viewers.




Originally posted by: rysohini

Because we are not all white or black, just different shades of grey!!!


While how our favorite characters are behaving atm, is just the maker's ploy to drag #MissionKashmir to perhaps not one but two wedding venues, coz weddings specially the 'not to be' ones fetch TRPs, this is just my 2 cents (oops ended up being a #LongPost) with my tryst of trumping Shubho as a #Lawyer smiley36


We have all spoken about this a few times, so even at the risk of sounding repetitive, I will still say it - coz it's my way or highway smiley37


1. Why does Mr.Anirudh Bose not proclaim his 'love' to Jhanak?


Ans : Ani is simply adhering to the Concept of 'Consent' , a concept extremely relevant in today's world, at times a little blurry as well and definitely alien to the likes of Tejas !

[So all the mindgames that Tejas played on J to gaslight her against Ani, was because Tejas knows only one language - that of BruteForce - chheen lo !]

Ani was not afraid of getting snubbed. He has laid his heart bare a few times now. And J has thukrao'ed him every single time.

Does it sound right, if he said to J 'I know you think this shaadi is fake, but because I take this shaadi to be real, yeh raha rights, lo aur chup chap mere sath BH mein reh lo' - Brute Force. Period.

Me think not ! Of all the flaws Ani has, his ignorance to read J's love for him would have to top the list ! Jis din he gets to know J loves him, usdin 'bhuchaal' layega, bina jane kafi laya hai already smiley36

[We will conveniently pretend to keep the hut fiasco aside, coz kabhi kabhi Ani babu ka dil hai ke maanta nehi so he phislo'ed and it provided us with a few drops of much needed rain in an otherwise banjar zameensmiley36]


2. Why does Mr.Anirudh Bose want J to marry Rahul?


Ans :Despite how much he loves her, Ani let J go, because he failed miserably to provide her with the 'safe haven', that he had thought he would be able to, in BH.He knew she was miserable in BH. He let her go because she had repeatedly insisted on wanting to leave BH(and him!) and live in Kashmir- so that she can find the life of her dreams with the love of her life - Rahul ! And live a respectable life with Rahul minus all beizzatis!

And while we think Ani is weak, it takes immense strength to be this selfless in love - "If you love some one, set her free, if she comes back, she is yours, if she does not, she never was!"

To step aside gracefully because J doesn't love him, to honestly let Rahul know and re-assure Rahul of J's love (coz Ani is the only one privy to the fact that Rahul loves J and J loves Rahul), to urge Rahul to take her responsibility and keep her safe (by staying in Kolkata), with the hope that Rahul will be that 'shield' of J, that he can never become - simply coz J will never let him be the one!

The shield Ani became, the moment he learnt that Tejas is forcing J to marry is the same shield that Ani would have been against the whole world , guarding her frail body behind his indomitable self , had J let him be !

Ani is a 'protector', a 'mentor'/ 'enabler' and a 'lover' - strictly in that order ! So he will do what it will take , to keep J 'safe' ; to be the wind beneath her wings and enable her to be independent and let her run the show, instead of spoonfeeding her; and love her hudd paar and go to any lengths for her despite his being an unrequitted, one-sided love !

Finally, the surprise gift- "main tumhare liye jo sochunga, woh acha hi sochunga" , the question of asking J whether she wants this does not arise -he has no doubts that this will make J happy - he already knows 'J's happiness' lies in Rahul, so 'main tumhare khushi mein khush ho jayunga' while his heart shatters in to a thousand smithereenssmiley28


3.Why does Mr.Anirudh Bose not proclaim his 'love' for Jhanak to the world?


Ans : This is a battle that he will never fight simply coz there is no battle here! There is no love from J's side, so what exactly would he be fighting for? What would 'proclaiming' his love for her achieve?

#ResultsDriven. Just more insults from the evil clan ! J being called 'characterless' ! That is not a slander he wants to bring upon J and her mom - his one-sided love is not that selfish ! It would only bring badnaami and beizzati for J. Not to forget , it might put J at risk, thanks to Shrishti and her cheap thrills ! And J considers his love to be ethically and morally incorrect, according to J his love is rightfully Arshi didi's !


He wants to be the 'one' but he knows that he is not the 'one' in J's eyes ! - Some one teach him to read eyes yaarsmiley42!


4. Why should J break the Anishi Wedding?


Ans : Ani is stuck in the daldal of an age-old commitment ! Specially with the families involved and how they 'adore' Arshi, he has not found a way to safely call it quits, with out jeopardising J's character and life ! The otherwise smart, level headed, calculative Sambhal lunga Bose, bbas yeh na sambhal paye !

Would we not allow Ani to be vulnerable and weak sometimes? He is a human after all and has his fair share of flaws !

But he is going through a lot and breaking inside everyday ! Worst still he can't show his wounds to any one, must guard it with the garb of playing along and pretending to be happysmiley28

He at times has to give in to the whims and fancies of the evil clan , because of the wrong foot he finds himself in, thanks to the lying !

He is an otherwise courageous hooman, with beintehaa ek tarfa mohabbat for a girl whom he can never claim as his own!

As Ani feels stuck, his better half needs to be a human shield and pull him out of this loveless alliance ! J is about to lose the only reason and the only person, she had want to live for.

She is about to lose her 'everything' coz in this big bad world, Ani is the only only one she has ! While J means the world to Ani, Ani is J's world !

This surely is reason enough for her to stand up and fight for the marriage she holds so true to her heart? Come on J, our titular character, Ani deserves every bit of this from you!

In Epi 100 (Saraswati Puja) J says I saved Sirji's life coz I am grateful to him for mine , in Epi 200 J says the same - any guesses ladies for Epi 300?smiley37

A relationship is at best a saajedaari, a partnership where it is not always a 50-50. Sometimes a 80-20 , other times a 40-60 ! You gir, I pakad ; I fall, you hold ! So J needs to pull him out of this , this one time and 'protect' him. Unlike Ani, who is a headless chicken, J is well aware that she loves Ani and Ani loves her !

Plus all the foreshadowing about J can call this wedding legal and claim her rights - these dialogues came time and again from J during Ashirwad and once to Ani, Ani to the full clan, Shristi to Arshi, J to Arshi !


5. Why does Anirudh not stop Anishi wedding?

Ans : At this point, he hardly cares about himself. He knows this wedding will kill him tinka tinka, but him letting it happen, would maintain the status quo and not bring any 'bhuchaal' in J's life. Plus apart from the happiness it will bring to his family, he will keep a word he has given and not tarnish the family name. Also, it will stop Shrishti from stooping any lower and harming him or J ! He knows Mukherjees and Basu s together are a formidable force to reckon with, so why risk J for his ek tarfa pyar?

His love understandably comes with a lot of insecurities and we will see bare sare galtiyaan , just have to wait patiently for the cloud to pass smiley27

For a long long time now, everything that Ani does is either for J or because of J [an example is he frantically tries to hide the suicide note of Arshi, to placate J but understands fully what Shristi or Arshi is capable of doing to J, if they find a good reason to - Ani will not give them any good reason to harm J]


Lastly, #RuNak tabhi mukammal honge, jab yeh dono yeh chahenge ! They would both have to 'choose' eo, above everything everything else !

We need a lot of self-love, where they choose their own happiness and the happiness for eo, over the rest of the world.

It is not so much of a crime to be a little selfish in love, sometimes it is needed and so worth it. This is a battle they have to fight for their own selves and for eosmiley27


#KnowYouOnlyLoveHerWhenYouLetHerGo smiley44


Shayad kabhi na keh saku main tumko, kahe bina samajhlo tum shayad - Jo tum na ho, rahenge hum nehi ! Na chahiye kuchh tumse zyada, tumse kum nehi smiley42

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