Debate Of The Month #1 : Love is eternal without even marriage - Page 5

Ha ha ha. I loved you inline answer but since it's debate post sima jhadoo leke AA jayegi

Stick to topic.

My name well will tell later. Naam mei. Kya rakha hai 😂

Yaar mask ek taraf I have nt seen or experience any eternal love unless it's love for nature, love for country or anything else. Which I doubt topic ka topic hsi..

Aajkal saath jeene marne ki kasam khayi jaati hai but life ki reality yeh sab kasme vaade bula dete hai

Only eternal love as i said apne liye khush raho Jo milta hai Khushi deta hai wahi shayad eternal love zindagi hai.

Bachhon ks pyaar pati ka pyaar part and parcel of life. Apne ko love Karo wahi eternal mein jaata hai

Aur kya kahoon

Ek quote karne jaate hai toh upar ka post aata nahi. I-f badal Gaya hai

Kabse looking where to put new username

Like urs says Neha uske neeche I'd hai

Woh Kahan hai koi batao pls

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Kya baat hai Neha. Ok quantum Is sima. Mujhe nahi pata tha.

Debates mein I m really lousy. School days ka debate tha and when my turn came i turned statue. Couldn't say anything at all 😂😂

Arre even I'm romantic at heart

Dil toh bacha hai ji.

Yaar my perspective is my own personal experiences.

Eternal love kahin bhi nahi hota.

Pyaar aise nahi hota

Zindagi ki sachchai saamne aate hi pyaar phoossh ho jaata hai

I also want to hear more

I can't tag anyone as i myself returned to forum after 3 years and so many changes.

My feelings exactly

To be very honest, I love romance , its the most beautiful emotion and to fall in love with someone who can make you feel that emotion at its best will be the most luckiest thing for anyone

But when you're co existing in a society with million others its necessary to follow the society rules especially when it contributes in the welfare of society

I condemn any kind of disrespectful behaviour in any Kind of institution but marriage for me is the most romantic thing actually ab aage usmei kya hoga that depends on the individuals and how they're leading their lives but the marriage as a concept for me is very romantic 😂 I don't know if this makes sense or not for many but for me it really does

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Ha ha ha. I loved you inline answer but since it's debate post sima jhadoo leke AA jayegi

Stick to topic.

My name well will tell later. Naam mei. Kya rakha hai 😂

Yaar mask ek taraf I have nt seen or experience any eternal love unless it's love for nature, love for country or anything else. Which I doubt topic ka topic hsi..

Aajkal saath jeene marne ki kasam khayi jaati hai but life ki reality yeh sab kasme vaade bula dete hai

Only eternal love as i said apne liye khush raho Jo milta hai Khushi deta hai wahi shayad eternal love zindagi hai.

Bachhon ks pyaar pati ka pyaar part and parcel of life. Apne ko love Karo wahi eternal mein jaata hai

Aur kya kahoon

Ek quote karne jaate hai toh upar ka post aata nahi. I-f badal Gaya hai

Kabse looking where to put new username

Like urs says Neha uske neeche I'd hai

Woh Kahan hai koi batao pls

Self love for the win

Fresh Deliberation Perspectives on the debate topic. "Love is eternal without even marriage."

Love is driven by the Soul! The basis of this universe is Love. As the soul is eternal, the love is eternal!

Marriage by definition is a consensual social contract recognised by law between two people. Important things about marriage,.....social.... Two different Individuals......Saat Vachan or marriage Vows

The social context

Society and its norms are a continuously changing phenomenon. Alvin Toffler in his sociological book, Future Shock, clearly states that post Industrialisation, there will be information overload and rapid change bringing the dissolution of the family unit thus leading to a rise in divorce rates. In today's date, the prediction stands true when divorces are on the rise.

Saat Vachan is an integral part. These saat vachans are the conditions with natural expectations to fulfill them. When expectations are set in, pure honest love is on the decline. It's more about self-gratification. And as the "self" starts getting more and more selfish, marriage systems get caught in too many human complexities, Maya! More you're caught in Maya Web, the more difficult it is to experience the ethereality of true love.

The True Perspective

For love to be eternal(infinite), it has to be unconditional....... more like "self"less love. So there's no I, myself and you, yourself, no two individualities.........Radha-Krishna is eternal love because Radha hi Krishna hai aur Krishna hi Radha hai........ This is fundamental Advait Vedant of Hinduism.

We perceive Radha and Krishna as a woman and man in love...... 'Is that all' that Laxmi and Narayan want to portray to humanity?...... Laxmi, also called Rama, is the energy of Narayan, the life principle......the two are inseparable...... yet perceived as duality!

Radha and Krishna depict the eternal association between Atmaa ( Atman in Vedaas) and Paramatma (Brahman in vedaas)........This love is always instilled inside you...... You just have to look at the core of your "I" .......your Ahum...... And there you'll find Ahum Bramhasmi!

I am Radha- I am Krishna!

The love cannot leave you; but it gets covered with all me and My and MINE.... The effect of Avidya and Maya!

My Eternal Love

I have always seen myself as the "Radha" and I have always been in love with Krishna! Even when I was not married, this love gave me happiness..... The touch of raindrops on my face is that love kiss, my soaking in drizzle is His embrace..... Blossoming flowers are his smile.......The pinkish glow of the morning sky is his loving gaze....... HE and I cannot be separated...... So the Love never leaves my heart!

It's not very difficult to imagine or follow. ........ Krishna is a true husband to all 16008 wives because he sees Radha in each...... So myself in Dwapaaryuga was his 14678th wife and you were maybe 16000th or 9th.

Whether married or not, the Eternal Love propagates inside your soul, the real YOU!

There's no point in arguing over the ULTIMATE TRUTH! LOVE is ETERNAL..... but with birth, Maya takes you in her loving Aanchal, and lets you experience the beauty of existence........ trapped in Avidya (ignorance) we let Shadripus Conquer over us.... and then LIFE BECOMES A TEST!

p.s. As I mentioned earlier, I can write till this thread is over; but let me stop here today.

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Ha ha ha. I loved you inline answer but since it's debate post sima jhadoo leke AA jayegi

Stick to topic.

My name well will tell later. Naam mei. Kya rakha hai 😂

Bhatakati Atma, Main topic se kabhi bhataki hi nahi........ Aur Sima Jhaadu bhi leke aayee na toh Voh Morpankh ka jhaadu hoga. .....

Sima is our Godsend..... She brings us out of our jadedness and poses questions that make us reflect deeper in our souls...... My heartfelt Thanks to you, Sima!

Meri Sakhi, Baarish ka Mousam is going to start...... So bhatakana chhod! At your place, you accept the embrace of love in the showers....At my place I will enjoy the same..... Our Happiness will be one and same..... the PremRang!

Ae ri sakhi !

main ang ang aaj rang daar du,

Apne jee se prem rang kaise main utaar du!

Ae ri sakhi!

Lol Neha welcome back. Tum bin yeh debate soona laage re

Arre bhatakti aatma sirf forum par as weekend I m roaming like bhoot here there

And not from now barson se bhatakti hun 😂😂😂

Baarish ka Mausam matlab garmi se aaram but jab over hota hai toh problem

So my eternal love is not summer not monsoon but the mild winter. It's the best season

Baaki pyaar vyaar yeh sab Dil ki baatein hai ji

Vaise ur deep analysis was interesting 😂

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Lol Neha welcome back. Tum bin yeh debate soona laage re

Arre bhatakti aatma sirf forum par as weekend I m roaming like bhoot here there

And not from now barson se bhatakti hun 😂😂😂

Baarish ka Mausam matlab garmi se aaram but jab over hota hai toh problem

So my eternal love is not summer not monsoon but the mild winter. It's the best season

Baaki pyaar vyaar yeh sab Dil ki baatein hai ji

Vaise ur deep analysis was interesting 😂

😂😂😂username you selected reminded me of my childhood anecdote. I used to be playing all day long and my mother would call me back and make me have water regularly.... even meals. I naturally resisted.... So she put the fear in my mind...... If you don't drink water regularly and have regular meals......In the night, teri atma ko bhook pyaas lagegi aur voh bhatakegi....Phir kacharapei mein se khaayegi aur gutter se paani piyegi... Chalega tujhko?...... 😂😂😂 The thought was so disgusting, I fell in line perfectly as my mother wanted..... When I became mother, I told my daughter the same.... So tu bhatakati atma toh main aur hum sab bhatakati atma!

Aur vaise aur ek baat....Pyaar vyaar dil ki baatein nahi Atma ki baatein hain

Originally posted by: Loving2Missing2

😂😂😂username you selected reminded me of my childhood anecdote. I used to be playing all day long and my mother would call me back and make me have water regularly.... even meals. I naturally resisted.... So she put the fear in my mind...... If you don't drink water regularly and have regular meals......In the night, teri atma ko bhook pyaas lagegi aur voh bhatakegi....Phir kacharapei mein se khaayegi aur gutter se paani piyegi... Chalega tujhko?...... 😂😂😂 The thought was so disgusting, I fell in line perfectly as my mother wanted..... When I became mother, I told my daughter the same.... So tu bhatakati atma toh main aur hum sab bhatakati atma!

Aur vaise aur ek baat....Pyaar vyaar dil ki baatein nahi Atma ki baatein hain

Awww to u too.

My mother used to say khaoge nahi police pakad ke le jayegi

Ab again putting the key word eternal love aatma se juda hai 😂😂😂

Originally posted by: Loving2Missing2

Fresh Deliberation Perspectives on the debate topic. "Love is eternal without even marriage."

Love is driven by the Soul! The basis of this universe is Love. As the soul is eternal, the love is eternal!

Marriage by definition is a consensual social contract recognised by law between two people. Important things about marriage,.....social.... Two different Individuals......Saat Vachan or marriage Vows

The social context

Society and its norms are a continuously changing phenomenon. Alvin Toffler in his sociological book, Future Shock, clearly states that post Industrialisation, there will be information overload and rapid change bringing the dissolution of the family unit thus leading to a rise in divorce rates. In today's date, the prediction stands true when divorces are on the rise.

Saat Vachan is an integral part. These saat vachans are the conditions with natural expectations to fulfill them. When expectations are set in, pure honest love is on the decline. It's more about self-gratification. And as the "self" starts getting more and more selfish, marriage systems get caught in too many human complexities, Maya! More you're caught in Maya Web, the more difficult it is to experience the ethereality of true love.

The True Perspective

For love to be eternal(infinite), it has to be unconditional....... more like "self"less love. So there's no I, myself and you, yourself, no two individualities.........Radha-Krishna is eternal love because Radha hi Krishna hai aur Krishna hi Radha hai........ This is fundamental Advait Vedant of Hinduism.

We perceive Radha and Krishna as a woman and man in love...... 'Is that all' that Laxmi and Narayan want to portray to humanity?...... Laxmi, also called Rama, is the energy of Narayan, the life principle......the two are inseparable...... yet perceived as duality!

Radha and Krishna depict the eternal association between Atmaa ( Atman in Vedaas) and Paramatma (Brahman in vedaas)........This love is always instilled inside you...... You just have to look at the core of your "I" .......your Ahum...... And there you'll find Ahum Bramhasmi!

I am Radha- I am Krishna!

The love cannot leave you; but it gets covered with all me and My and MINE.... The effect of Avidya and Maya!

My Eternal Love

I have always seen myself as the "Radha" and I have always been in love with Krishna! Even when I was not married, this love gave me happiness..... The touch of raindrops on my face is that love kiss, my soaking in drizzle is His embrace..... Blossoming flowers are his smile.......The pinkish glow of the morning sky is his loving gaze....... HE and I cannot be separated...... So the Love never leaves my heart!

It's not very difficult to imagine or follow. ........ Krishna is a true husband to all 16008 wives because he sees Radha in each...... So myself in Dwapaaryuga was his 14678th wife and you were maybe 16000th or 9th.

Whether married or not, the Eternal Love propagates inside your soul, the real YOU!

There's no point in arguing over the ULTIMATE TRUTH! LOVE is ETERNAL..... but with birth, Maya takes you in her loving Aanchal, and lets you experience the beauty of existence........ trapped in Avidya (ignorance) we let Shadripus Conquer over us.... and then LIFE BECOMES A TEST!

p.s. As I mentioned earlier, I can write till this thread is over; but let me stop here today.

As I mentioned earlier my topic is life is test, so ofcourse its gonna be a perspective from human society.

And when you're human you're living a life of limited years. Either you're searching for the purpose of your existence or just going with the flow.

As you mentioned for love to be eternal it has to be selfless, but that's the point, how can it be selfless when we're coexisting and that co existence is the reason we're surviving

If you've heard about the ingroup outgroup concept of forest animals, you know that the group of animals live together to survive as they trust that they're in a safe place, if one animal who is not the part of their inner circle enters in their territory they freak out because 90 percent of the time the possibility is that animal came to hunt them

Humans are evolved and we are not just living to survive now but we're living to achieve big or small self goals. But that does not negate the instinct to survive

They had the primal instincts of mating and thus began the growth of human society. It is said that human children were the most dependent child species most delicate as well as they can't survive without their parents or any caretaker at least till they get 6-7 years old.

When the first human came, mated and started having children and then the cycle began how they would have taken the responsibility of that child, how people decided to establish something so they can live with peace

Did they seperated marriage and love - NO

Did they seperated marriage and mating - NO

Did they seperated marriage and responsibility - NO

Did they seperated love and mating - NO

According to what you said, Krishna ji knew he was God then also he chose the pain of getting seperated from Radha, he chose the lifelong pain for him and Radha and for his wives as well because they knew he loved Radha the most. But that's the point he didn't chose, LIFE happened, and pain only comes when you expect, their love is eternal undoubtedly but is it really without any expectations

If I have to think about it, Krishna ji and Radha ji loved each other a lot but when Krishna ji moved from Mathura he fell in love with rukmini as well and all his asht bharyas also he loved them for them , he didn't wanted to see Radha in them because Radha has her own place in his heart but his heart is the biggest heart because its the heart of the jagdishwar, the heart of jagannath where there's no shortage of love for anyone.

You can say human society made the life a test but let's not forget the human society which written the rule book for humans living on earth is the same society which understood the love and relations which you're talking about and they wrote so they can pass it to the future generations.

After understanding this kind of love also they went with the marriage institution and considered it the purest.

In love there's no I, Me or Myself

But there actually is

I can sacrifice my happiness for him because if he's happy then I am happy.

I love him that's why I don't want to see him cry

My happiness is in your happiness.

I am not saying this is not a good thing but its not selfless, you feel happy when you think about the people you love, if you don't you won't love them 🤷

Love= HAPPINESS+ TRUST+COMPANIONSHIP+ATTRACTION+LOYALTY+HONESTY

From above which part marriage is not offering?

At last I just want to say, we can achieve eternal love if we want, MEERA did. But we can't escape life even after that

For eg

Rana ne vish diya maano amrit Piya

Wo to sagar mei sarita samaane lagi

Dukh laakho sahe, mukh se govind kahe

Meera raani diwani kahane lagi

Aisi laagi lagan.......

Originally posted by: RamAayeHain

As I mentioned earlier my topic is life is test, so ofcourse its gonna be a perspective from human society.

And when you're human you're living a life of limited years. Either you're searching for the purpose of your existence or just going with the flow.

As you mentioned for love to be eternal it has to be selfless, but that's the point, how can it be selfless when we're coexisting and that co existence is the reason we're surviving

If you've heard about the ingroup outgroup concept of forest animals, you know that the group of animals live together to survive as they trust that they're in a safe place, if one animal who is not the part of their inner circle enters in their territory they freak out because 90 percent of the time the possibility is that animal came to hunt them

Humans are evolved and we are not just living to survive now but we're living to achieve big or small self goals. But that does not negate the instinct to survive

They had the primal instincts of mating and thus began the growth of human society. It is said that human children were the most dependent child species most delicate as well as they can't survive without their parents or any caretaker at least till they get 6-7 years old.

When the first human came, mated and started having children and then the cycle began how they would have taken the responsibility of that child, how people decided to establish something so they can live with peace

Did they seperated marriage and love - NO

Did they seperated marriage and mating - NO

Did they seperated marriage and responsibility - NO

Did they seperated love and mating - NO

According to what you said, Krishna ji knew he was God then also he chose the pain of getting seperated from Radha, he chose the lifelong pain for him and Radha and for his wives as well because they knew he loved Radha the most. But that's the point he didn't chose, LIFE happened, and pain only comes when you expect, their love is eternal undoubtedly but is it really without any expectations

If I have to think about it, Krishna ji and Radha ji loved each other a lot but when Krishna ji moved from Mathura he fell in love with rukmini as well and all his asht bharyas also he loved them for them , he didn't wanted to see Radha in them because Radha has her own place in his heart but his heart is the biggest heart because its the heart of the jagdishwar, the heart of jagannath where there's no shortage of love for anyone.

You can say human society made the life a test but let's not forget the human society which written the rule book for humans living on earth is the same society which understood the love and relations which you're talking about and they wrote so they can pass it to the future generations.

After understanding this kind of love also they went with the marriage institution and considered it the purest.

In love there's no I, Me or Myself

But there actually is

I can sacrifice my happiness for him because if he's happy then I am happy.

I love him that's why I don't want to see him cry

My happiness is in your happiness.

I am not saying this is not a good thing but its not selfless, you feel happy when you think about the people you love, if you don't you won't love them 🤷

Love= HAPPINESS+ TRUST+COMPANIONSHIP+ATTRACTION+LOYALTY+HONESTY

From above which part marriage is not offering?

At last I just want to say, we can achieve eternal love if we want, MEERA did. But we can't escape life even after that

For eg

Rana ne vish diya maano amrit Piya

Wo to sagar mei sarita samaane lagi

Dukh laakho sahe, mukh se govind kahe

Meera raani diwani kahane lagi

Aisi laagi lagan.......

Wooooaaaahhhhhh i well i don't know so much despite seeing life more than u guys

Itna angrezi mujhe nahi aata but samaj aaya sab 😂😂😂

Bhidu Jo kaha sahi kaha

Ekdum rapchik post hai 😂😉