Why are people hating actors here?

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Actors of the show especially RG and SP have got a lot of hate here for saying positive things about their messed up characters. One should hate the character but should also know that actor is just doing their job and defending the character is a part of the job. If RG called out Anupama's glorifying her ex in laws or betraying her GuruMaa, she would be fired instantly. This job is high earning for her and she has also gained more spotlight as Anupama than she ever gained in Sarabhai. Also, makers want audience to see the character of Anupama as Large hearted, intelligent and mahaan , not as an imperfect human or a childish lady. Makers want us to see Anuj as same as well. Also, both Anupama and Anuj are officially main leads of the show, not antagonists. If RG and GK go along with the flow, they aren't wrong. Also, I have never seen any actor who played ML or FL call out flaws of their characters in media. Muskaan, Ashish, Adhik, Chavvi and Ashlesha played characters who were officially flippers/antagonists so, then calling out their characters is not wrong. I do remember Muskaan saying in 2023 that Pakhi has changed but I don't think she expected her to revert this time. Also Nidhi glorified Kinjal because audience has seen her as a good person for a long time. Heck even Arvind would glorify Dukhmukh. Be prepared when that happens.

As for SP, Madalsa,Nishi,Sagar and Alpana defending their characters' worst flaws or their antagonism, there are also actors who glorify the criminal characters they play who are way worse. Yeh log to fir bhi normal hai. Also Nishi and Sagar as villains waala arc was fully removed by redeeming the couple at the end and with Samar's sacrifice. If actors can defend abuser Vanar, guttermouth Julie and cheater baby trapper Kavya, don't expect RG,GK,Nidhi or others to call out their characters who are not official villains yet. Don't take their words seriously. They don't mean it. Also makers want us to see Vanar, worst father ever, as the eternal sufferer best father ever, Julie, a bad saas as a good maa to her abuse victims and Kavya, a disloyal wife as the epitome of love. Actors are just doing their job. They don't deserve to be hated by fans. Hate the character, not the actor.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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It's understandable when the justifications given are centered around the story and the plot points related to the flaws of the character.


Like if RG willingly accepted that her love for the Shahs are out of habit or that it's human nature to have difficulty in letting go or even that its nice to be self-sacrificial, it would have made sense. The justification is specific to the character Anupamaa.


But just please watch the kind of PR and promotions being done for the show. "Anupamaa is a symbol of empowerment for all women", "She is perfect", "This show is pathbreaking because the female protagonist challenges societal norms", "This shows is more than entertainment, it's social work".

But aren't they blatant lies?


It's like an actor playing a murderer can defend on why he committed the murder but instead he saying murder is good.


Remember how for Kabir Singh, Sandeep Reddy Vanga had said "being in love means freedom to hit your partner" instead of just saying that "this is how Kabir Singh has been written, you can't expect him to change in one day". He made a generalized statement about all relationships instead of sticking to justify just one character.


Another example is the old show Saubhagyawati Bhava. What if Karanvir Bohra would have said for Viraj Dobariyal that "my character is an example of how intense a man's love for a woman should be" instead of saying "Viraj's behavior stems from him abandonment issues and possessiveness but deep down he really loves Jahnvi and it's the only way he knows how to love"?


I know only one actor doesn't decide what to say to the press. The production house dictates everything. So if we blame RG or SP, we are blaming the whole team, they are just speaking in public.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Partyc

Actors of the show especially RG and SP have got a lot of hate here for saying positive things about their messed up characters. One should hate the character but should also know that actor is just doing their job and defending the character is a part of the job. If RG called out Anupama's glorifying her ex in laws or betraying her GuruMaa, she would be fired instantly. This job is high earning for her and she has also gained more spotlight as Anupama than she ever gained in Sarabhai. Also, makers want audience to see the character of Anupama as Large hearted, intelligent and mahaan , not as an imperfect human or a childish lady. Makers want us to see Anuj as same as well. Also, both Anupama and Anuj are officially main leads of the show, not antagonists. If RG and GK go along with the flow, they aren't wrong. Also, I have never seen any actor who played ML or FL call out flaws of their characters in media. Muskaan, Ashish, Adhik, Chavvi and Ashlesha played characters who were officially flippers/antagonists so, then calling out their characters is not wrong. I do remember Muskaan saying in 2023 that Pakhi has changed but I don't think she expected her to revert this time. Also Nidhi glorified Kinjal because audience has seen her as a good person for a long time. Heck even Arvind would glorify Dukhmukh. Be prepared when that happens.

As for SP, Madalsa,Nishi,Sagar and Alpana defending their characters' worst flaws or their antagonism, there are also actors who glorify the criminal characters they play who are way worse. Yeh log to fir bhi normal hai. Also Nishi and Sagar as villains waala arc was fully removed by redeeming the couple at the end and with Samar's sacrifice. If actors can defend abuser Vanar, guttermouth Julie and cheater baby trapper Kavya, don't expect RG,GK,Nidhi or others to call out their characters who are not official villains yet. Don't take their words seriously. They don't mean it. Also makers want us to see Vanar, worst father ever, as the eternal sufferer best father ever, Julie, a bad saas as a good maa to her abuse victims and Kavya, a disloyal wife as the epitome of love. Actors are just doing their job. They don't deserve to be hated by fans. Hate the character, not the actor.


I am sorry, are you claiming it's actors jobs to spread regressive messages in society and influence the youth to do bad things?


Do you know why celebrities like cricket stars and actors are paid millions to promote things and messages? Because they have influence and people blindly follow them. That's why many times even government get celebrities like Amitabh and Sachin to spread good messages to society. People listen and copy them.


Sorry, it's not their job to promote regressive ideas in society. Their jobs ends in the acting. They are getting huge money and fame already. Promoting messages is over and beyond what they do. They are not present in interviews as their characters, they are present as real life people spreading messages.


Do you think if tomorrow SP promotes smoking in his interviews, the government will say, ah it's ok because it's just his character in the show? No, he will be breaking the law. Because government knows they can actually influence society.


Their messages resonate in society and make the lives of actual women miserable. They actively harm real people. I have a daughter, her life is directly going to be impacted by such regressive messages about women being spread in India, a country considered one of the most unsafe in the world for women.


SRK was not going around saying his character in Darr was amazing and every guy should copy that. Sachin said he had promised himself he would never ever promote smoking or drinking (these ads were legal then) because he knows children follow him so he refused millions of dollars from ad companies.



Greedy people harming society should always be called out. Do you believe the people they harm by their messages are not important? Because they are rich and famous they can get away with anything? And you are also pretending these actors are helpless and need to follow what the makers say when reality is that both RG and SP have huge influence and they even make them change plots of the series if they don't like it. They are spreading these messages because they are greedy and don't care what harm it does to society as long as show goes on, not because they are forced to.


What if tomorrow they ask children to smoke? Or Romil actor goes around and claims kidnapping is a good thing for teenagers to do? That's all fine because it's part of their jobs?


Anyone spreading regressive messages and intentionally harming society for their greed need to be called out 100%. And celebrities don't have less responsibility for it, they have more because of their power and influence. Them being irresponsible and greedy should bring shame on them. We have many examples of celebrities doing good to society by promoting good messages, like Akshay Kumar with women hygiene products or Ranveer promoting toilets. They are praised for it. Similarly those who promote negative messages should be called out and shamed.

Edited by Harish111 - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
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Because actors are acting like their character is saints and telling others to copy them


Imagine if all mothers become like anupama lal their kids will become brats and crimianls like pakhi and toshu who feast on others wealth (kapadiya wealth)


Imagine if all wife become like anupama , she will forget own husband and child and be lying in mayka or ex hubby house 24/7


Imagine if all wife are anupama they will not allow husband to spend their parents and their hard eraned money on himself and his child but their wives ex hubby family or mayka only


Imagine all woman become anupama without studying even college or english or putting any effort in life they want to become owners of their company million dollar businesses


Imagine if woman become like anupama everyday her ex family or mayka will come to current hubby house and abuse and man handle him his child his mom his brother his bhabhi and yet husband is expected to keep quiet and worship them as his wife loves that family


If any woman follows anupama there will be unrest in society and fights everyday between husband and wife and many divorces in world and india too thats all


Do we want society like that in india or anywhere?


anupama is last woman a wife or woman or mom or daughter or sister should ever follow


If you want to follow any character please follow kavya of kavya serial, or dhanak of ghatbandan serial both role models in how a girl and woman should be in life career and personal life too


If you want to follow any man do not follow anuj kapadiya as role model follow raghu jadhav of ghatbandan as role model husband and son and son in law and follow adiraj of kavya fame male lead how to be good son, husband, boy friend, son in law everything (since i watched these two serials i am mentioning real role model male leads and female leads to follow in life)

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Umnm lol.

Their job is to not go against the storyline provided by the makers. Their job is not to present a shitty abusive character as a feminist icon irl and as something who should be emulated. They can very well deflect and put responsibility on the writers but no. They use the glorification of these characters as their own personal PR.

I don't care about how or why upmaa miffs the Maan fandom. Ship is not the centre of Shahi's shows. Anupamaa as a character is an abuser, enabler, and hypocritical towards the younger women in her life. She enables Leela's abuse towards Kavya/Dimpy/Kinjal. Let's not forget how disgustingly the issues of sexual violence and sex work were treated.

That is a far more dangerous precedent than hanging out with the shitty father of your children once in a while. None of these characters should be glorified for actors' own PR or at all, even.

Barun and Nakuul both called out their mcp characters despite being newcomers and famous for those very characters— even while the shows were on air. Even Adnan gives balanced takes on Viaan.

RG is a director/producer's daughter; she doesn't know how to deflect questions? Looooooooooooooool.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Also I’m finding RG’s acting very cringe now

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Comparing Mataji to a khooni is a bit far stretched. Also Rehyna Pandit and Leena Jumani played khoonis in KKB and glorified their openly villainous characters. This is seen in many other shows as well. I don't remember them being hated as much as RG or SP or GK who don't play any khoonis. I don't like RG's acting any more in the show but I do see that she memorizes her long bhashans well. Also, I haven't seen many actors who played gawaar characters with rural accent for over 3 years long but she did it. Earlier she was good but now she has lost her touch. Maybe she herself is frustrated. You never know. Also, RG is the lead of the show, officially at least. I don't remember Devoleena condemning Gopi Bahu or Sriti Jha condemning Pragya or Pranali condemning Akshu . These characters were like Anupamaa, hypocrite with humiliation kink but also they were leads therefore they would do anything to promote their characters and one of them also worked with DKP. I haven't seen them being hated at all. I am not saying that actors should promote things like this or they don't know how to deflect questions or characters like Maa, Anuj, Vanar, Julie, CrinDosh, Makki, Dukhmukh , AdikhBHOJ etc should be venerated.I am saying that whatever actors are telling us is unreliable and we shouldn't judge THEM for the characters they play. RG will just say what DKP wants her to say. SP or others who glorify their negative characters' wrongdoings need a reality check, not unnecessary hate. Also, I have seen GK singing praises of Mere Anooj like RG doing Maa ijj besht but I haven't seen GK bring hated here on forum. As audience, we have a right to criticize terrible acting of RG or SP, we also have a right to hate Mataji but actors don't deserve to be hated to extreme levels, especially RG. The forum really seems to hate her to the core.

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Originally posted by: Partyc

Comparing Mataji to a khooni is a bit far stretched. Also Rehyna Pandit and Leena Jumani played khoonis in KKB and glorified their openly villainous characters. This is seen in many other shows as well. I don't remember them being hated as much as RG or SP or GK who don't play any khoonis. I don't like RG's acting any more in the show but I do see that she memorizes her long bhashans well. Also, I haven't seen many actors who played gawaar characters with rural accent for over 3 years long but she did it. Earlier she was good but now she has lost her touch. Maybe she herself is frustrated. You never know. Also, RG is the lead of the show, officially at least. I don't remember Devoleena condemning Gopi Bahu or Sriti Jha condemning Pragya or Pranali condemning Akshu . These characters were like Anupamaa, hypocrite with humiliation kink but also they were leads therefore they would do anything to promote their characters and one of them also worked with DKP. I haven't seen them being hated at all. I am not saying that actors should promote things like this or they don't know how to deflect questions or characters like Maa, Anuj, Vanar, Julie, CrinDosh, Makki, Dukhmukh , AdikhBHOJ etc should be venerated.I am saying that whatever actors are telling us is unreliable and we shouldn't judge THEM for the characters they play. RG will just say what DKP wants her to say. SP or others who glorify their negative characters' wrongdoings need a reality check, not unnecessary hate. Also, I have seen GK singing praises of Mere Anooj like RG doing Maa ijj besht but I haven't seen GK bring hated here on forum. As audience, we have a right to criticize terrible acting of RG or SP, we also have a right to hate Mataji but actors don't deserve to be hated to extreme levels, especially RG. The forum really seems to hate her to the core.


But we have to accept reality. You or me telling people not to judge them or follow them will not stop millions of people watching the show to blindly copy what they say and believe what they say. Thats just how human beings work, we are social animals and we follow people we like, even when they spread bad messages.


You also cannot compare this show with other shows you named because 1) None of them were/are as popular as Anupama and 2) None of them are shown as example of great social message and women empowerment which media constantly pushes for Anupama and 3) None of them as are powerful as DKP and RG


Originally posted by: Partyc

RG will just say what DKP wants her to say.



And I say this is completely false. She is the highest paid actress in ITV by a long way. She comes from a powerful family in ITV. She also has the power as shown to change script and stories she didnt like. So she can 100% say no to DKP whenever she wants. She chooses not to


Originally posted by: Partyc

but actors don't deserve to be hated to extreme levels, especially RG. The forum really seems to hate her to the core. .



I will repeat, the regressive messages she is pushing and promoting actively harms women, it creates a society which is harmful for my 6 year's daughter's future. In a country already very regressive and unsafe for women. She could use her fame and power for good, instead she is using it to push regressive thoughts in society, she is harming orphans in our country, she is harming sex workers in our country, she is harming working women in our country, she is harming abuse victims in our country. And she chose to do all of that just to get a bit more money. She is making a mockery of every single social issue in the country. Me and every single Indian have every right to hate her.


You have so much sympathy for a multi millionaire pampered greedy star but not for the poor victims those regressive messages are actively harming? People need to get a perspective.

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It's the case with RS shows. Whosoever does his show behaves like RS is God and the role offered to them is nothing less than the gift from God.. It's not just RG somehow all his actors behave that way..smiley36

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Originally posted by: Partyc

Comparing Mataji to a khooni is a bit far stretched. Also Rehyna Pandit and Leena Jumani played khoonis in KKB and glorified their openly villainous characters. This is seen in many other shows as well. I don't remember them being hated as much as RG or SP or GK who don't play any khoonis. I don't like RG's acting any more in the show but I do see that she memorizes her long bhashans well. Also, I haven't seen many actors who played gawaar characters with rural accent for over 3 years long but she did it. Earlier she was good but now she has lost her touch. Maybe she herself is frustrated. You never know. Also, RG is the lead of the show, officially at least. I don't remember Devoleena condemning Gopi Bahu or Sriti Jha condemning Pragya or Pranali condemning Akshu . These characters were like Anupamaa, hypocrite with humiliation kink but also they were leads therefore they would do anything to promote their characters and one of them also worked with DKP. I haven't seen them being hated at all. I am not saying that actors should promote things like this or they don't know how to deflect questions or characters like Maa, Anuj, Vanar, Julie, CrinDosh, Makki, Dukhmukh , AdikhBHOJ etc should be venerated.I am saying that whatever actors are telling us is unreliable and we shouldn't judge THEM for the characters they play. RG will just say what DKP wants her to say. SP or others who glorify their negative characters' wrongdoings need a reality check, not unnecessary hate. Also, I have seen GK singing praises of Mere Anooj like RG doing Maa ijj besht but I haven't seen GK bring hated here on forum. As audience, we have a right to criticize terrible acting of RG or SP, we also have a right to hate Mataji but actors don't deserve to be hated to extreme levels, especially RG. The forum really seems to hate her to the core.

@bold : that is so condescending and elitist even if you didn't mean it.

Actors, I hope, don't get hated for doing a job and earning their salaries. I know Sudhanshu gets insane amount of hatred. They should absolutely be called out when they use these over glorified abusive characters to bolster their own social capital. RG definitely uses SP's line to bolster herself as some sort of saviour, and it is sickening.

You already get paid 100x the daily wage yet do not have the grace to not valorise socially harmful characters. At least deflect artfully if you cannot say anything contrary lol

Same with gk btw.

About Sriti: she is one of the few actors in the industry who is truly truly socially aware and has a personality beyond PR regulated hottakes. Anyone who follows her knows that she distincts herself from Pragya. She actually talks about things as Sriti. Her attachment to a seven-year-long character is not the same as RG conflating herself with upmaa or pretending that upmaa is a feminist extraordinaire

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