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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: RainOfDew

Aaj kal kam time milta hai😆 I m unable to read it since 4-5 days.. will do after Rakhi.

Theek hai but your zeal shows

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Also good winning over evil isnt even the end, technically speaking Duryodhan dies in 10th Parvan, while there are 18 Parvas of Mahabharat, you could say Duryodhan died midway so its more about the journey of Yudhisthir and how he grows up.


Mahabharat has everything means it has Nitishastra (how to behave in society for everyone), it has Yudhha Shashtra, It has DharmaShastra, it has Rajshastra, it has Itihaas (upakhyanas), it Veda, it has time of joy and of sorrow. Yes its a lesson for all, but that is not a tragedy, its more about a learning that we do along with the characters.


Undoubtedly no family deserves Mahabharat, but that's how royal families are, filled with such conspiracies, in Mahabharat at least each side was loyal to each other, I mean Panadavas to Yudhisthir and Kauravas to Duryodhan, despite being the king (as Vyasa calls him out throughout), and sole decision maker, Duryodhan never took away the title of Maharaj from Dhritrashtra, Kunti loved Nakul Sahdev and took care of them, in other cases you have even real brothers fighting each other, Asoka killed his 99 brothers to ascend the throne, Harayankyas killed their father to succeed for generations (like for 5 generations the eldest son killed the then king to usurp the throne), Kunala was trapped by his stepmother to blind himself. Chandragupta Vikramaditya killed his brother and married his sister in law (going by DeviChandraguptam, not sure if it is historical or just a fiction), Mughals ke baare me to lesser said the better.

Mahabharat is much better than other royal families and I mean even Kauravas were better family people than the "Great" kings we had in future (since then)

Agreed Di 👍🏼

You have put it in a logical way ❤️

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

How is Abhimanyu Vadh important? Like its a war, people will kill and die, why will one death become so important?


Could be but when you are listing to Karna about his crimes, wouldn't you mention the most heinous thing he did ? Unless you don't think it was


Bibek Debroy actually said it wasn't something "wrong" that he said, because that was the norm

Karna got whitewashed in epic too some way don't you think so Di?

May be Abhimanyu Vadh is important because its ABHIMANYU we are talking about.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Moonks

what if it’s true😡

Chill Mohit is just being sarcastic. Woh Kal se roasting KarVika in his stories 🤣

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Thankyou


Soon Rashi will cross me though, she is studying Mahabharat thoroughly

I started reading thoroughly in lockdown but couldn't finish due to online assignments so upar upar padh lia. 😆 Hopefully one day I will go through the original thoroughly 🤞

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: A_for_Arpita

Karna got whitewashed in epic too some way don't you think so Di?

May be Abhimanyu Vadh is important because its ABHIMANYU we are talking about.

I don't think Karna was whitewashed in epic. At multiple occasions his evils have been highlighted, He was called as the stem of tree of Adharma. His ills are never negated. Its only VH which finds less references


I don't know why shall we put Abhimanyu at higher pedestal than others, Vaishampayan highlighted him because it was his grandson he was narrating to, but we don't need to be that partial I think, his death wasn't more important than that of Ghatochkach or Uppapandavas

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: A_for_Arpita

I started reading thoroughly in lockdown but couldn't finish due to online assignments so upar upar padh lia. 😆 Hopefully one day I will go through the original thoroughly 🤞

Yes you should, I read complete in lockdown too and I was like kyu padha, seemed poora Mahabharat galat pata tha

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I don't think Karna was whitewashed in epic. At multiple occasions his evils have been highlighted, He was called as the stem of tree of Adharma. His ills are never negated. Its only VH which finds less references


I don't know why shall we put Abhimanyu at higher pedestal than others, Vaishampayan highlighted him because it was his grandson he was narrating to, but we don't need to be that partial I think, his death wasn't more important than that of Ghatochkach or Uppapandavas

Hmmmm I think in VH chapter the more importance lied to those who opted the way of SILENCE instead of Karna's WORDS.

Han not neglected but his dids were used as the driving force of the main plot that kinda glorifies him nehi?

Yup Abhimanyu being Parth Subhadra son was the reason behind him getting the limelight but I have read how Abhimanyu was actually more talented than Upapandavas. Ghatochkach has my heart ❤️

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: A_for_Arpita

Hmmmm I think in VH chapter the more importance lied to those who opted the way of SILENCE instead of Karna's WORDS.

Han not neglected but his dids were used as the driving force of the main plot that kinda glorifies him nehi?

Yup Abhimanyu being Parth Subhadra son was the reason behind him getting the limelight but I have read how Abhimanyu was actually more talented than Upapandavas. Ghatochkach has my heart ❤️

Pata nhi or maybe it was expected that if she is accepted as a Dasi then VH will happen, not only Karna, but even Dusshashan is never blamed for it.

Deeds of everyone was taken for driving main force, thats what MB was about, I dont think they glorified him, but undoubtedly he was among the most important characters of MB, he couldn't be ignored.


Yes Abhimanyu was better than Uppandavas, but that's not a reason to give more importance to his death? Everyone dies in a war, that is what war is about, his death didn't change much, Arjun still remained his demure self to fight Dhristadhyum once latter killed Drona in meditation. I dont say it wasn't sad, but I am saying he is over glorified because his grandson was listening the story, he was great, but he was still a soldier who died in war like Lakshman, Vrishsena or Uppandavas, I find no reason to see it more important than others

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Pata nhi or maybe it was expected that if she is accepted as a Dasi then VH will happen, not only Karna, but even Dusshashan is never blamed for it.

Deeds of everyone was taken for driving main force, thats what MB was about, I dont think they glorified him, but undoubtedly he was among the most important characters of MB, he couldn't be ignored.


Yes Abhimanyu was better than Uppandavas, but that's not a reason to give more importance to his death? Everyone dies in a war, that is what war is about, his death didn't change much, Arjun still remained his demure self to fight Dhristadhyum once latter killed Drona in meditation. I dont say it wasn't sad, but I am saying he is over glorified because his grandson was listening the story, he was great, but he was still a soldier who died in war like Lakshman, Vrishsena or Uppandavas, I find no reason to see it more important than others

Actually matlab that time, Dasiyoon ka molestation or insult wasn't heinous right? It was Draupadi that's why all hell broke nehi tho daasiyoon K Saath may be it was normal. 🤔

Obviously Karna was one of the pillars of the epic character wise.

Yup legacy plays a vital role. His grand son listening 😆 actually the whole MB saga is as such where it's hard to compare which chapter is more important. Everything happened for a reason.

Ok we should stop now it's NeiVika AT 😛

But discussing MB with you is always a pleasure 🤗

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