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That is why I keep on saying if the penet*ation happened and it was not consensual then it was r*pe. And the reason for my boxer jokes was this only. Because it’s too painful.

Originally posted by: tashi26

That is why I keep on saying if the penet*action happened and it was not consensual then it was r*pe. And the reason for my boxer jokes was this only. Because it’s too painful.

I’m glad all of you are choosing to let things out here. I will always encourage this. This is especially very eye opening too.

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

It definitely is painful. I think the F ed up part about taking up writing about something like this (even if it’s not the motive of the story) is how triggering it can be to myself as well as readers.

I’m glad all of you are choosing to let things out here. I will always encourage this. This is especially very eye opening too.

If US and Scotland have it why not here.

Men are made to feel guilty because they can be only considered as perpetrators not victims.

Originally posted by: Mrieshka

I have now read the whole chapter and many comments too. Honestly many of you have already said what I wanted to say here.

What an emotional roller coaster chapter!!. Arpita you are absolutely amazingly talented author. I felt as if you are answering and discussing all the questions I have on khushi’s behalf instead of Arnav’s musing and reply to Khushi.

Therefore I have to admit that I felt nothing knew when khushi asked exactly the questions I wanted to ask from Arnav.

Definitely heartbreaking yet not unexpected. I love how you write each line with hidden deeper meaning.

1. I still firmly believe that Arnav has not done infidelity or cheating and somehow has not even done full deed. I know that he replied to khushi that he remembers he was on top and it was not khushi. However, that is his point of view with very scattered and foggy memory, and full of guilt with his so-called righteousness. No one can tell exact details except the lunatic unfortunately 😡. Therefore, I still feel that line written by you is still dubious. Also, he was definitely taken advantage of by the lunatic, and there is no doubt about that. Hopefully we will find more details with further investigations. He was under influence for sure either alcohol or drugs. It would be very difficult for him to go all the way🫣even if he thinks so with his scattered memory— can not expect him to push and pull boxers back you see😜🥰—-(anyway let us stay in our happy bubble)
2. Khushi’s pain was so palpable, and her anguish and hurt will not go away soon enough. Arnav single-handedly took the decision for the divorce and decided he does not love her anymore and also she’s not happy with him. These are all his presumptions, which he never cared to discuss with Khushi.
3. Khushi is possibly more hurt with his decision of divorce than his ONS. She is an unconditional loving person that she will forgive his one night stand when she will find out exact details how he was taken advantage into this by the lunatic. When khushi asked if it was not shyam— he would not have come to help khushi— that was khushi’s breaking point.
4. Arnav is definitely flawed, and that’s why we are reading the story. He made all the bad decisions in last one year and kept Khushi in dark. This is his personality disorder and costed him all his happiness. His actions has brought so much of grief and trauma to Khushi .
5. I cannot believe that after knowing everything some people are still saying it’s Khushi’s fault as well. My heart is breaking for her since the beginning of this story and much more after revelations of last chapter of Arnav’s thoughts and behavior. Her only fault is that she is a traditional female full of Grace , unconditional love and devotion. Since when these traits in any female are considered crime or weakness. I am sorry, but I get very angry when people start blaming her in this whole fiasco. Yes, she has some insecurity, and did not care for financial independence. But they were leading a 10 years of happy marriage, in whichArnav was always a decision maker and “she was happy with that. No one was compromising during that time. So It’s normal in couple that one partner is different than the other and they just learn how to live with each other and love each other . She thought she loves her husband and he also loves her back. Now her whole foundation of marriage is questionable and trust is shattered. Arnav single-handedly decided not that he has fallen out of love. She tried to discuss with Arnav in the last one year on multiple occasions, but he always ran away from her. He was even getting suffocated by the domesticity.
6. Another thing which I did not like (just my opinion)is his behavior when he was in conversation with Lavanya and taking care of all the mess and khushi was there under the same roof, and how he ignored her was also totally unacceptable. He was doing the right thing for Lavanya but what about his wife?.He definitely took her for granted. That part was the worst part for me when he was not meeting her eyes. Yes, we audience know that it was because of his guilt but it was devastating for totally unsuspecting wife of 10 years. I don’t think I can ever forgive him for that if I am Khushi

7. His actions after his ONS have been also unacceptable . Even if he had decided for divorce by that time and also to let go of Khushi, however he should have some kind of respect for his 10 year old wife . This is not how a normal couple behave. When he did a mistake, and he was guilty, Normally, his first reaction should have been to go and talk to Khushi immediately. This was a big event in their decade old marriage. It was not a trivial thing to wait for correct time. Unfortunately, these incidents will further confirm khushi’s question about foundation of their marriage. Basically because of his personality disorder and guilt, he made things much more worse.

8. I have been always for happy ending forever for Arshi. Right now Khushi is very hurt and for her to come out of trauma she does need to get away from Arnav and be independent and gain her self-respect back. When she is on equal platform, then maybe she will think about anything . After this trauma in this marriage, I feel it would be unlikely for her to start new relationship with anyone else. New entry may help her to heal some of her grief etc but don’t see any romantic angle there.

I still feel that Arnav is redeemable despite all the mess he has created because khushi still loves him and I want her to be happy. He also is good person by heart. I understand Arnav tried to do right things in his head but lending up hurting khushi immensely .

As someone said— he will have to move Jameen and aasman to seek forgiveness for his miscalculated deeds.

Poor Arnav and khushi— our star crossed lovers. Lets see what destiny has in store for them.

I am still optimistic ❤️🥰.

Hi Mrieshka!

Are you a medical doc? I think it was a comment of yours that said if he was so drunk or drugged..he could not have completed the act. (Based on your professional experience..but that part you kept it vague😉).

Don't ask me why I remember it.🫣

Anyway it matches what I have read...thanks to google.

Lovely comprehensive review including the new perspective that Khushi breakpoint must be when she realized if not Shyam..Arnav may not have come to her rescue. It all boils down to how important is this relationship/her to him. She is looking for crumbs to hold on to and is not finding any!

Rest of his biased tunnel vision when it comes to La it has been talked enough

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

I have been reading up on stuff, just to understand everything and the questions that have been raised and I came across something that I was not aware was a legally recognized concept. I am just trying to share so people are aware this exists.

Following is a quote from CDC (Centers of Disease Prevention in US) regarding male rape/sexual assault:

"MTP (Made to penetrate) is a form of sexual violence that some in the practice field consider similar to rape. CDC measures rape and MTP as separate concepts and views the two as distinct types of violence with potentially different consequences. Given the burden of these forms of violence in the lives of Americans, it is important to understand the difference in order to raise awareness.

• Rape entails any completed or attempted unwanted penetration of the victim through the use of physical force or when the victim was unable to consent due to being too drunk, high, or drugged (e.g., incapacitation, lack of consciousness, or lack of awareness) from their voluntary or involuntary use of alcohol or drugs.
• Being MTP occurs when the victim was made to, or there was an attempt to make them, sexually penetrate someone without consent as a result of physical force or when the victim is unable to consent due to being too drunk, high, or drugged, (e.g., incapacitation, lack of consciousness, or lack of awareness) from their voluntary or involuntary use of alcohol or drugs.

"

Now I also came across a lot of journals and articles trying to classify MTP as rape so the punishment is just as stringent. There were also many many statistics claiming that MTP is much more prevalent than it is reported (but hey that's true for rape as well).

Every country has a different "official" law on rape and what constitutes as rape. The definition of what constitutes rape has changed over time as society has come forward and accepted nuances to each situation.

Take for example:

"

“Forcible rape” had been defined by the UCR SRS as “the carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will.” That definition, unchanged since 1927, was outdated and narrow. It only included forcible male penile penetration of a female vagina. The new definition is:

“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

For the first time ever, the new definition includes any gender of victim and perpetrator, not just women being raped by men. It also recognizes that rape with an object can be as traumatic as penile/vaginal rape. This definition also includes instances in which the victim is unable to give consent because of temporary or permanent mental or physical incapacity. Furthermore, because many rapes are facilitated by drugs or alcohol, the new definition recognizes that a victim can be incapacitated and thus unable to consent because of ingestion of drugs or alcohol. Similarly, a victim may be legally incapable of consent because of age. The ability of the victim to give consent must be determined in accordance with individual state statutes. Physical resistance is not required on the part of the victim to demonstrate lack of consent. "

- US Justice Website

What I understand from what I read is that as society evolves, and we enter and see or are made aware of different situations and nuances, the definitions of rape evolve as well. Maybe tomorrow, MTP would also be legally considered rape. There are many groups rallying for this to be the case.

The one common factor that I have seen from all these definitions is that definitions are becoming clearer for one big purpose: Inclusivity, making rape a non-gendered thing, and last of all for the victim in the situation to realize and understand that they were not at fault.

I have only shared the above from what I have read/researched to make people aware. I was not aware of many of these terms and nuances and reading them up, as well as reading and gathering context on these situations has broadened my mind and I hope they will help you do the same.

P.S. I apologize to Arpita. I understand she mentioned that societal issues are not the focal point of this story. But I believe once the context is shared and a public forum is available, it is a disservice to society and the future generations to not have a discussion on the same. But I am sorry, if you feel this is not the right place for such discussions.

Hey !

Thanks for looking it up.

I remember quoting the US justice website to Tashi few chapters ago.

The google search that day started with a hunch can men ever prove they were raped if the act happened when incapacitated. (He showed all signs to me including being on the ledge!)

Yesterday when looking for same and more information ...came across this

that till recently "New York" discriminated between voluntarily and involuntarily being drunk and getting molested/taken advantage of !

Thankfully not anymore..and they recognize that it is a fraudulent consent when one is incapictated , irrespective of voluntary or involuntary drinking.

Was shocked but at end of the day..there are too many preconceived notions even within a legal system.

Society is not what it used to be and it takes a long time for law to catch up.

For some reason I cannot tag Arpita!

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

Hi Mrieshka!

Are you a medical doc? I think it was a comment of yours that said if he was so drunk or drugged..he could not have completed the act. (Based on your professional experience..but that part you kept it vague😉).

Don't ask me why I remember it.🫣

Anyway it matches what I have read...thanks to google.

Lovely comprehensive review including the new perspective that Khushi breakpoint must be when she realized if not Shyam..Arnav may not have come to her rescue. It all boils down to how important is this relationship/her to him. She is looking for crumbs to hold on to and is not finding any!

Rest of his biased tunnel vision when it comes to La it has been talked enough

Thanks Shradha for remembering and pointing out my previous comment😀🙏. Your guess may be right🥰.

I am still mad at Arnav for his way of tackling the issue after his ONS though, despite his guilt. He sucks big time in communication. Unfortunately his actions and inactions have hurt khushi too much. She feels emotionally and physically betrayed accurately. If I could not stand his holding La’s hand and accompanying her to dr’s office etc and all that softness towards that Lunatic— how can khushi forget those pictures and ONS even if pregnancy was fake. But Khushi is khushi with so much love that she nay forgive him ultimately after full picture e is clear.

He showed too much righteousness to that lunatic. For the love of God— she was more or at least equally involved in the whole fiasco and now was trying to gain sympathy of Arnav with pregnancy issue and playing victim card. Its not that it was her first ONS. I know she mentioned “pill failure” to Arnav— yet she was putting all the blame on Arnav and our dear Arnav gets cornered enough to tell the duo about his impending divorce. Arey brain hai bhi ki nahi— kaisa businessman hai ye🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. I am like — really.😣

Hey— here its more problem for Arnav as he is married. For the lunatic— its her duty to protect herself as she definitely is not virgin. Here she put whole blame on Arnav regarding pregnancy and Mr so RIGHT remembers his duty towards her and his mothers teachings. What about his duty towards khushi. Yes he feels guilty but actions are
Not acceptable. Man to karta hai ki Arnav ki jam kar pitayi karoon. His brain stopped functioning completely after his ONS😣🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😳.

All the team Arnav people— this is my rant😜. Please don’t defend him as I am very very mad at him for hurting my khushi.

Originally posted by: Mrieshka

Thanks Shradha for remembering and pointing out my previous comment😀🙏. Your guess may be right🥰.

I am still mad at Arnav for his way of tackling the issue after his ONS though, despite his guilt. He sucks big time in communication. Unfortunately his actions and inactions have hurt khushi too much. She feels emotionally and physically betrayed accurately. If I could not stand his holding La’s hand and accompanying her to dr’s office etc and all that softness towards that Lunatic— how can khushi forget those pictures and ONS even if pregnancy was fake. But Khushi is khushi with so much love that she nay forgive him ultimately after full picture e is clear.

He showed too much righteousness to that lunatic. For the love of God— she was more or at least equally involved in the whole fiasco and now was trying to gain sympathy of Arnav with pregnancy issue and playing victim card. Its not that it was her first ONS. I know she mentioned “pill failure” to Arnav— yet she was putting all the blame on Arnav and our dear Arnav gets cornered enough to tell the duo about his impending divorce. Arey brain hai bhi ki nahi— kaisa businessman hai ye🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. I am like — really.😣

Hey— here its more problem for Arnav as he is married. For the lunatic— its her duty to protect herself as she definitely is not virgin. Here she put whole blame on Arnav regarding pregnancy and Mr so RIGHT remembers his duty towards her and his mothers teachings. What about his duty towards khushi. Yes he feels guilty but actions are
Not acceptable. Man to karta hai ki Arnav ki jam kar pitayi karoon. His brain stopped functioning completely after his ONS😣🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😳.

All the team Arnav people— this is my rant😜. Please don’t defend him as I am very very mad at him for hurting my khushi.

So you are a medical doc. 😍I have quoted you in a comment..because google results are always how you word your question and it is a lot😁

I was not discounting what you felt about how Arnav has dealt with La. In fact all you mentioned above I have said it. Most probably sarcastically😅

I could also not believe how he blurted his divorce thoughts to two strangers.

I think used I the word priority in a comment that his actions puts Khushi in the bottom of his list. He gave more importance to a ONS pregnancy than what the information would do emotionally to be soon to be divorced wife 🙃 Even if he continued with divorce she needed to know from him.

This chapters covers most of it and for once he can perceive how his behavior/actions has not factored in how his wife will perceive it

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

Hey !

Thanks for looking it up.

I remember quoting the US justice website to Tashi few chapters ago.

The google search that day started with a hunch can men ever prove they were raped if the act happened when incapacitated. (He showed all signs to me including being on the ledge!)

Yesterday when looking for same and more information ...came across this

that till recently "New York" discriminated between voluntarily and involuntarily being drunk and getting molested/taken advantage of !

Thankfully not anymore..and they recognize that it is a fraudulent consent when one is incapictated , irrespective of voluntary or involuntary drinking.

Was shocked but at end of the day..there are too many preconceived notions even within a legal system.

Society is not what it used to be and it takes a long time for law to catch up.

For some reason I cannot tag Arpita!

Very informative writeup, both of you.

Yes Arnav has not treated Khushi fairly. He has hurt her feelings on various occasions. It's left to Khushi how she wants to go forward regarding her marriage.

But one cannot deny that he was violated and manipulated by the b*tch and her sidekick.

Firstly he has to acknowledge the fact and next Khushi has to understand that he did not cheat on her.

Arpita, you can take the story on whatever route you have in mind, but a sincere request, please don't let the violators and manipulators go free.

In real lives, it happens most times how such people get away but at least in a story we want these people held accountable.

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

Agree to all points especially the VD one 😂😂😂

However Arnav didn’t say she wasn’t pregnant or it was a fake scare. He outright said she lied. This is enough for anyone to understand Lavanya faked the thing.

There is a difference between lying and willfully setting out to deceive someone, by faking something. If someone invites me for a coffee or dinner and I'm in no mood to go, I might excuse myself saying I have a doctor's appointment or we already have a commitment. That's lying without intending to harm. Here La willfully, knowingly faked something as big as a pregnancy, coming as a result of an ONS, to deceive someone, to get something out of them. The word lying doesn't cover that. Saying she faked it to deceive me conveys the serious of the situation. Saying she lied, could also be seen as him trying to get away with something, to change topic etc.

No offense, that's how I see it.

Originally posted by: Mrieshka

Thanks Shradha for remembering and pointing out my previous comment😀🙏. Your guess may be right🥰.

I am still mad at Arnav for his way of tackling the issue after his ONS though, despite his guilt. He sucks big time in communication. Unfortunately his actions and inactions have hurt khushi too much. She feels emotionally and physically betrayed accurately. If I could not stand his holding La’s hand and accompanying her to dr’s office etc and all that softness towards that Lunatic— how can khushi forget those pictures and ONS even if pregnancy was fake. But Khushi is khushi with so much love that she nay forgive him ultimately after full picture e is clear.

He showed too much righteousness to that lunatic. For the love of God— she was more or at least equally involved in the whole fiasco and now was trying to gain sympathy of Arnav with pregnancy issue and playing victim card. Its not that it was her first ONS. I know she mentioned “pill failure” to Arnav— yet she was putting all the blame on Arnav and our dear Arnav gets cornered enough to tell the duo about his impending divorce. Arey brain hai bhi ki nahi— kaisa businessman hai ye🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. I am like — really.😣

Hey— here its more problem for Arnav as he is married. For the lunatic— its her duty to protect herself as she definitely is not virgin. Here she put whole blame on Arnav regarding pregnancy and Mr so RIGHT remembers his duty towards her and his mothers teachings. What about his duty towards khushi. Yes he feels guilty but actions are
Not acceptable. Man to karta hai ki Arnav ki jam kar pitayi karoon. His brain stopped functioning completely after his ONS😣🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😳.

All the team Arnav people— this is my rant😜. Please don’t defend him as I am very very mad at him for hurting my khushi.

Meenu, this is P from the riverside! How are you?