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Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

Okay. I cried again. Before work. God I am obsessed!

Coming to your chapter now. Fabulous update. I don't know how you manage to surprise us even when our guesses are on point. We guessed it would be La and Manali but now La panicked for real after the photos and Arnav suspects Manali had personally meddled in it. I hope he speaks more of it later on.

I will speak about both your characters in detail now. I don't think I have dived into what really makes them compelling for me.

I will come to Khushi first.

Can i say she is an absolute angel. First of all, there has to be a reason she is so attuned to Arnav's needs and doesn't pester him for anything. Any wife, after a certain point of time will not like that work is absorbing so much time of her husband. I know Arnav was working on starting two companies from scratch, but he himself admits to it in this chapter. Her being in the background mattered a lot. She was always his home. Where he could come back to leaving worries of the world at the doorstep.

It cannot be a coincidence. Khushi had made herself this way. Everyone who knows her, including Arnav's mother, knows that she BREATHES for her Arnav. We got a glimpse of it in the flashback early chapters. She is so concerned that he is always thinking of others that she wants to be the one who gives to him instead of demanding. We all know Arnav had some major troubles in the past and there must be a reason why he thinks Khushi is his anchor.

There are so many little snippets that show the depth of Khushi's love for Arnav, but I will take the one from her memory lane. She understands on some level that talking about kids upsets Arnav to a great degree. She is ELATED that now even his family wont pressure him for kids because she has stopped speaking about it since almost a year. She is concerned that he might feel alone. She thinks she wants nothing more than this wonderful man in her life. Her own worries forgotten behind in front of his struggles.

But she has also been hurting since a year. And pictures of such acts, placed in such a cunning order to make her feel like this was an ongoing thing must have felt like an answer. Remember? She has no answer for Arnav's behavior because he refuses to talk. This must have felt like a blow that this could be the reason he had been avoiding her for the whole year!

Arnav has felt protected around her. You-Know-Who has right. She is one thing in his life that has been untouched by negativity. Khushi's turning his first home into a livable space was symbolism. She had turned his life around, made it livable when he struggled with his demons. Her being submissive in this relationship was by choice becayse she herself says so - ARNAV HAD NEVER SAID NO TO HER!

god knows she didn't deserve what happened to her.

And Arnav! What a mightily complex creature. I feel so conflicted with him.

First of all. He IS a righteous man. No doubt about it. He had a full-blown panic attack at the thought of Lavanaya being pregnant and not once does he ask her to abort it. He feels like he has no sympathy for her and yet forces it out of himself because two women close to him have had tough pregnancies. He is ready to step up and give his name but just does not want an emotional connect with the kid. He specifically says that it's a good thing Lavanya doesn't move around in circle where being a single mom would land her in a world of trouble. But he still cautioned her to think thoroughly. he is the kind of a guy who would have married Lavanya if he was single and Lavanya was a gaon ki chhori.

He did not reveal Lavanya's name to his lawyers at first thinking of her reputation and in case the child was a false alarm.

if a man who would do so much for a stranger, pulling away from his wife who he misses terribly, then there has to be a reason. Period. he thinks he cannot tell Khushi why he hates his hometown so much so maybe he is trying to protect jis family including his parents and Khushi from something. We dont know how he got so rich suddenly. He was a struggling engineer in 2006 and he was producing a movie in 2009. I guess his software took off, but we will have to wait and see.

his first move was to safeguard Khushi's financial interest even though he was raging in panic at the thought of being a father. it makes sense. He is not a random guy. His money is always a target. There really is a lot of wealth at stake and as someone who came from a struggling background, he understands why it is important. He is so concerned and thorough that he wants to have an ironclad will because "he will not be able to help his family from the other side'. So that is why he had lawyers. I guess you left a very big hint when Khushi asked him if he had a lawyer already and he responded with "Yes Khushi but I needed to..." He was cut off in the first chapter. He completed now.

I know there has to be a reason he doesn't want to talk about children at all.

besides, he really is not a vile human being. He did not even care what Lavanya and Manli did to him. He was just so tired of it all that he let it go. Thinking he can close this chapter by ignoring it. That is why Manali B'tch must be confident that Arnav would give in to blackmail.

What she didn't take into account was that Arnav was ready to let go of all the wrongs done to him but so much as threaten his Khushi and he will hurt you where it stings the most. He neither held back his words, nor his actions. In his weird, twisted way, he does love Khushi. He just has a lot of communication problems and obvious demons in his past.

The last thing I want to point out in your story is the reality aspect of it. It is so easy for us to lose ourselves in the world of fiction and think Arnav should just go on a rampage to destroy La and Manali when they deceived him but stop and think for a moment. These were complete strangers who really tried to hurt him and his life. He has made his life with his blood sweat and tears and anyone will obviously be shaken at the realization that there are people out there who could hurt him like this. even the hero of a novel.

I am glad you showed that. More manly characters with this kind of vulnerability. He is obviously a very strong and formidable character and yet he felt unsafe. I think somewhere in his consciousness, he understands that he was taken advantage of and thus he feels UNSAFE. he cried out for Khushi while he wanted to be the one to give up the armor and her to be the knight. Which she had always been.

In awe of this story di. In awe of both the characters. I feel so much for them it hurts.

And the song you chose. Never thought i would be crying my eyes out listening to "demons' but here i am. I lost it at these two lines.

Don't wanna let you down

But I am hell-bound

Though this is all for you

Don't wanna hide the truth

and where he feels he cannot get out of this without khushi

They say it's what you make

I say it's up to fate

It's woven in my soul

I need to let you go

Your eyes, they shine so bright

I wanna save that light

I can't escape this now

Unless you show me how

pff...done. for now!

After my rant, which has calmed me, reading your comment does give me a perspective. You are right, Arnav is indeed a complex character. I would like to note that the way he spoke to the lawyers, attributing most of his wealth is his twisted way of loving Khushi through money. He calls Khushi his anchor, the center of his universe for the last few years but reading these chapters made me doubt that at certain times.

I felt like he is stuck to that 19 year old Khushi, who just worshipped him. He just considered her a responsibility. He loved her but did not actually understand her. She was his safe space, still is I presume.

His decision to not exact revenge may be mature, but when I think emotionally (biased towards Khushi) I can't just ignore it. Had Arnav not made up his mind regarding the divorce, they still planned to destroy a family all for the sake of her obsession. And how long did she think of continuing the charade? Did she plan to make him fall for him and eventually get actually pregnant?

Arpita as much as I hate Ma-la, I would really like to know what were they thinking when they concocted this plan.

Originally posted by: Ashviniv

what could arnav's problem is with having a child? he is ok with kids around, what scares him is having his own kid or rather emotional connection with a child. He made that explicitly clear to lavanya and i got the same feeling when he refused to be guardian to Leher. atleast thats what i understand. So here is my take on this

I think Anjali lost her child in some way. She was so emotionally attached to it that she went into severe depression. As Arnav mentioned her husband was not present or was careless so he might be catalyst or not present to help her or in a way responsible but somehow Anjali couldn't take that pressure. I think she committed suicide and hence this phobia of Arnav to get emotionally attached to a child. He might believe what if he also succumbs or he might blame that child for anjali's actions.

He mentions even anjali di did not choose him. he mentions he let her down, he couldnt help her etc. he might have asked their family to let her come home or to mumbai for change, they might not have agreed and hence the fall out with family too

Plus the Oct time when he goes to annual trips coincides with big puja at hometown. I think it might be Anjali's barsi. he makes sure he doesn't attend that. Hence Khushi never went with him on these trips. Even Akash alludes to it saying this time of year u are always vulnerable and hence Khushi will understand. That's why Khushi also wanted to stay behind this year. Thats why all those adrenaline fueled sports like bungee jumping to get a high so he can forget this time of the year

Reminds me of Arnav of IPK when he used to go away during his mom's birthday.

I guess all the root cause is with Anjali and her child

Also there was a sentence that Khushi was more of a child to his parents than their own children. So I am assuming both Arnav and Anjali abandoned their parents on some level. Too many clues and neither one is corroborating any one theory!

As for Anjali being alive or not, my first thought had been the same as someone else mentioned before: that it was the girl child that was the issue… Arnav clearly feels for pregnant women and their suffering, hence he supports Lavanya in the beginning….there is just too many blanks yet to be filled!

That he is vulnerable around the time when yearly pooja happens at the village, that he talks about Anjali quite reverently, that he loved his niece Kavya and could not wait to go visit. But I remember him losing his job at the time and that they had to postpone their visit, so something may have happened during the birth of his niece too! It’s like an Easter Egg hunt!

https://youtu.be/xXjTJ5lczTU

another song recommendation guys. I like this version more than the original one.

Ps- Learrn for some odd reason i can't tag you, consider yourself tagged too..

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

Thank you for another long chapter..no wonder you fell sick writing this. Hope you are better Arpita. 😘

Coming to the update. Are there any surprises here after reveal in part 1? I will come back to it.

First the most important housekeeping or let say one that led Arnav to start distancing himself from Khushi (end of 2013).

He mused about Payal and Anjali pregnancy and how hard it was on them physically. But his issues is not what it does to a woman physically (one can adopt)..it is him becoming a dad.

So he held Leher for the first time at length and "and for once Arnav tried to forget the insufferable memories in the innocence of a smile."...so what secret is it that he wants to take to his grave.

Why recall always

"Always do the right thing, chhotey!"

What did he not to do in the past. That he refuses to address and he pushes it under the carpet..damn the collateral damage.To me that is that the biggest problem in their marriage. Reveal will happen after the la saga is over. Which leads me to Arnav and La. The false pregnancy saga.

I was glad that he was clear with La how he will only financially support her nothing else and even more that he made sure that his wealth goes to Khushi or her next of kin in the event of his or her death. (My stand would be same if the circumstances was same and it was just another random stranger).

What stumps me is that..let me list the few that I remember

1. Aman gives him a file and tells that La is not pregnant..uses an IUD etc. His first response was you checked someone medical history !

He shut up only when Aman retaliated that Aman Khushi brother did the check not his secretary.

2. We have him forever being soft on La. The last 2 chapters and more this because see she got pregnant by him. He needs to support her because in a drunk state, she is pregnant and will keep the baby. Nothing more. He is a good man. She the woman has no responsibility.

But wait he saw something genuine in her eyes for him..when she pleaded with him in her New Year's party.

So he instructed his man Friday Aman to trace the photos to the awful Manali Gujral.

Which is why I guess when Manali came to threaten him in his office (divorce leak) he talked about La wanting a genuine relationship.

A relationship with a man you hardly know, because you slept with him drunk. Because you got pregnant and will keep baby (see there is no other way for her to be a mother) !

He buys that..even in his musing.it is only about her clingy behavior that bothers him. Not that it is absurd and that woman is abnormal.

But see in few months he has understood La, her genuine needs but not his wife of 10 years ! I forgot, the man is astute and a good person.

3. There is one more..something about how his actions ruined another woman..career etc. I don't need to rant more #2 is enough.

All the points I listed after he knows the truth about the false pregnancy. Arnav care for La makes no sense. This reaction is not normal..given he claims not to have emotional attachment. So,

Well in all his musings about Khushi it is his need,how she is his shield. It is never about her needs.

He is so used to hero worship (La wants a relation with him after one night and we already revels in Khushi's worship) that he never thinks what another person may have needs that he has not thought of.

I will repeat myself does he even know what it means to be in a relationship? That a relation is about two people. Two people make it work..you don't assume and take actions for others. Only for toddlers or mentally unstable folks (his La for example).

This update answers all my gripe with Arnav. Maybe this is how folks behave who get to take all decisions in life about everyone connected to them. They hide behind their goodness and genuinely do not understand you have no right to make decisions that affect them.

Anyway Kudos both to Aman (for going with his gut and checking on La past. Futile but glad he did) and Akash (being a level headed friend who gave sound advice. Unheeded but glad he did)

Edited:- I did think about another woman being Lunatic ( but he now knew she lied about her pregnancy and after Manali had leaked divorce news after threatening him)

I don’t think he really cares for Lavanya but he is guilty of the night he spent with her. I think even I mentioned that statement, “guilt of ruining another woman’s career”. I think at the moment he is thinking that he is just crying about going through that guilt, the enormous emotional toll that he took. He is navigating divorce thoughts, navigating his will, thinks he cheated Khushi and at the same time risked Lavanyas career (those photos could be a career ending move for both Lavanya and Arnav). He was just crying at their old building reminiscing everything he went through in a short period of time after he knows th truth of pregnancy. I don’t think he is actually feeling any care for Lavanya.

The only thing I also felt was a bit weird for me is that he did not absolutely go ballistic when faced with the possibility of some wrongdoing at Panchgani, but then again men never really think they have been wronged!

Originally posted by: tashi26

Your point #1 bugged me too, as Aakash had already warned him about him being tricked.

I did think about another woman being Lunatic (he now knew she lied about her pregnancy and after Manali had leaked divorce news after threatening him) but then I realised it had to be Khushi after he ruined Anjali’s life, that’s what he thinks.

#2 did not bother you ! It is a drunken sex..and she wants him to accompany him to the doctor!. She is not 18 or a virgin . She is a grown woman. I am lost. Not once in his musing is the woman has no self respect, Tashi.

#3 career word is used..I don't have strength to search

Next chapter pls soon dear. I want Arnav answers for cheating. I want to know what compensation he give to Khushi . I m your reader. Ek chapter toh Banta hai mere liye dear. Mujhe bas Janna hai . Arnav ki dhoka ki waja chahiye aur mein Khushi ko strong dekhna chahta hoon .pls di ek request hai yeh meri

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

Thank you for another long chapter..no wonder you fell sick writing this. Hope you are better Arpita. 😘

Coming to the update. Are there any surprises here after reveal in part 1? I will come back to it.

First the most important housekeeping or let say one that led Arnav to start distancing himself from Khushi (end of 2013).

He mused about Payal and Anjali pregnancy and how hard it was on them physically. But his issues is not what it does to a woman physically (one can adopt)..it is him becoming a dad.

So he held Leher for the first time at length and "and for once Arnav tried to forget the insufferable memories in the innocence of a smile."...so what secret is it that he wants to take to his grave.

Why recall always

"Always do the right thing, chhotey!"

What did he not to do in the past. That he refuses to address and he pushes it under the carpet..damn the collateral damage.To me that is that the biggest problem in their marriage. Reveal will happen after the la saga is over. Which leads me to Arnav and La. The false pregnancy saga.

I was glad that he was clear with La how he will only financially support her nothing else and even more that he made sure that his wealth goes to Khushi or her next of kin in the event of his or her death. (My stand would be same if the circumstances was same and it was just another random stranger).

What stumps me is that..let me list the few that I remember

1. Aman gives him a file and tells that La is not pregnant..uses an IUD etc. His first response was you checked someone medical history !

He shut up only when Aman retaliated that Aman Khushi brother did the check not his secretary.

2. We have him forever being soft on La. The last 2 chapters and more this because see she got pregnant by him. He needs to support her because in a drunk state, she is pregnant and will keep the baby. Nothing more. He is a good man. She the woman has no responsibility.

But wait he saw something genuine in her eyes for him..when she pleaded with him in her New Year's party.

So he instructed his man Friday Aman to trace the photos to the awful Manali Gujral.

Which is why I guess when Manali came to threaten him in his office (divorce leak) he talked about La wanting a genuine relationship.

A relationship with a man you hardly know, because you slept with him drunk. Because you got pregnant and will keep baby (see there is no other way for her to be a mother) !

He buys that..even in his musing.it is only about her clingy behavior that bothers him. Not that it is absurd and that woman is abnormal.

But see in few months he has understood La, her genuine needs but not his wife of 10 years ! I forgot, the man is astute and a good person.

3. There is one more..something about how his actions ruined another woman..career etc. I don't need to rant more #2 is enough.

All the points I listed after he knows the truth about the false pregnancy. Arnav care for La makes no sense. This reaction is not normal..given he claims not to have emotional attachment. So,

Well in all his musings about Khushi it is his need,how she is his shield. It is never about her needs.

He is so used to hero worship (La wants a relation with him after one night and we already revels in Khushi's worship) that he never thinks what another person may have needs that he has not thought of.

I will repeat myself does he even know what it means to be in a relationship? That a relation is about two people. Two people make it work..you don't assume and take actions for others. Only for toddlers or mentally unstable folks (his La for example).

This update answers all my gripe with Arnav. Maybe this is how folks behave who get to take all decisions in life about everyone connected to them. They hide behind their goodness and genuinely do not understand you have no right to make decisions that affect them.

Anyway Kudos both to Aman (for going with his gut and checking on La past. Futile but glad he did) and Akash (being a level headed friend who gave sound advice. Unheeded but glad he did)

Bang on! Arnav in my book is an idiot and like I said in my comment for the first part, so much for the astute businessman. He was a sitting duck. Not saying that what La and Manali did deserves any excuse, it was wrong, full stop, and no one deserves to be taken advantage of like that. But so much of his issues are his own, I strongly feel he has got this victim complex, maybe it is the defense against the wrong he did against someone? He is the "I know best" kind of character. He just went ahead and made all those decisions (I do admire that he does have integrity, is ready to do the right thing by La in supporting the child financially, and her during the pregnancy), without any thought to Khushi. Just assumed he was right, he basically took her for granted. She gave her all, and he just took everything. Even expecting that ultimate gift, of understanding from her, when it comes to the divorce. But he was ready to give the benefit of doubt to La. Why? Because she is from a so called modern rich milieu?!! He seems to be the height of hypocrisy and misogyny also now. Somebody needs to give him one whack!

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

I don’t think he really cares for Lavanya but he is guilty of the night he spent with her. I think even I mentioned that statement, “guilt of ruining another woman’s career”. I think at the moment he is thinking that he is just crying about going through that guilt, the enormous emotional toll that he took. He is navigating divorce thoughts, navigating his will, thinks he cheated Khushi and at the same time risked Lavanyas career (those photos could be a career ending move for both Lavanya and Arnav). He was just crying at their old building reminiscing everything he went through in a short period of time after he knows th truth of pregnancy. I don’t think he is actually feeling any care for Lavanya.

The only thing I also felt was a bit weird for me is that he did not absolutely go ballistic when faced with the possibility of some wrongdoing at Panchgani, but then again men never really think they have been wronged!

Like I said no emotional attachment. So it is not care.

It is playing God. His priorities are messed up.

If la was a young inexperienced woman I can understand. He knows that she is not..plus he has additional information about La past. So it is about him being a good man. If it was just him, i get it. It is not..it hurt Khushi. But to him. It is. khushi who?

Even when he finds about the photos send to Khushi..it will be Manali only. Based on how he mused today

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

#2 did not bother you ! It is a drunken sex..and she wants him to accompany him to the doctor!. She is not 18 or a virgin . She is a grown woman. I am lost. Not once in his musing is the woman has no self respect, Tashi.

#3 career word is used..I don't have strength to search

Sorry for butting in, but for me the fact that he accompanies her to the doctor actually says that he is an upstanding person. Whether she is a grown woman or not, dealing with the news of unwanted pregnancy is not easy. When Lavanya came to him telling him she was pregnant, he acknowledged that she needed emotional support. I think as readers we know Lavanya’s truth and hence we can see her acting. But Arnav at this point does not know that! He has always thought that Lavanya has a clean image (Rmemeber Aman found out her PR keeps her image clean even in Bollywood), so now imagine that Arnav has always known Lavanya to be extremely professional, has a clean image in the industry (darling of the industry), knows/remembers some flashbacks of him having slept with her, and is told that she might be pregnant. I think it’s basic humanity to go the doctor with her…

I personally think that under the guilt of his cheating, he was just too emotionally wrecked to even consider there was any wrongdoing! Only after Aman comes to him with proof is when he is faced with that reality.