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Originally posted by: minakrish
You’ve penned it down perfectly and I completely agree with you!❤️👏🏻
@bold: There is no harm in appreciating beauty and so there was nothing morally wrong in what Ram did. He didn’t act in any way that would be considered incorrect. I’m not sure why it’s being made into such a big issue.😆
@pink: YES! That is the only cheating happening. Ram and Priya are both doing this for their parents without thinking long term. What happens after 3 months, when the contract is over? How will they face the parents? I guess this is such a heat of the moment kinda decision that they will only realize what a mess they’ve made after the 3 months is over. And if they do fall in love during that period, Ram needs to take a decision of ending his relationship with Kriti.🤔
Mina, yeah. Like guys who are committed and faithful are never struck by any other female's looks. Especially when he supposedly saw her as duckling to swan.
Of course we know that the contract is a time bomb, but realistically, it would not be so unthinkable that a couple might decide after a time that they just aren't compatible. The families would be upset, maybe devastated, maybe push them to keep trying, but that's a different story.
What Ram should think about is how it'll look if he then ups and marries his best friend's gf. Considering he's a celebrity and all, it'd be an even more harsh reaction than s2's annulment news.
Originally posted by: DreamOfEndless
You make an interesting point, Mangs. But I feel things, even during this wedding prep, things aren't as black and white, and this gray area will only expand once the rituals of marriage take place.
Before marriage, Ram and Kriti are in real relationship, and Ram and Priya are in fake relationship. So, we can assume Ram and Kriti have feelings for each other while Ram and Priya do not have feelings for each other. Since all three are aware of what is going on, hence cheating invalidates ------- Where the definition of 'cheating' is, it is cheating if one can't do it in front of one's (real) partner. Or one's (real) partner is unaware of one's actions or thoughts, and will feel betrayed if they become aware. So far so good.
But now, during marriage, we are seeing Ram is slowly catching feelings for Priya, esp in the dil ki dhadkan moments and when he is toying with the idea whether Priya is indeed his soulmate. Even Ram might not be consciously aware of this, let alone telling Kriti or Priya. But Kriti can sense Ram getting closer to Priya, in the numerous instances she witnessed Ram and Priya, how they are getting comfortable around each other. So she desparately wants to end this wedding (I am not gonna analyze her selfish motives, that is whole different story). Priya is too heartbroken and her heart has retreated in its own shell. Priya may take her own time to notice any (present or future) change in Ram's approach towards her or Kriti.
So, the way things are progressing, the dynamics are going to drastically change once the wedding rituals take place. Priya is going to shift to Ram's house, RaYa might be around each other all the time even as Ram hasn't explicitly broken up with Kriti. Since Priya and Ram are already comfortable around each other and Ram is already getting genuine 'dil ki dhadkan' moments seeing her (I enjoyed yesterday's DKD moment BTW, it was beautiful 🙈) and wanting to play with her hair, it won't take much for Ram to cross the road and breach the contract of their marriage contract by genuinely falling for Priya and starting to consider Priya as his real wife. Obviously, both Kriti and Priya will be unaware of this change unless Ram tells them. Until then, Ram will be cheating on his real gf (real because he verbally expressed to love her) with his fake wife (fake because of the contract) by developing feelings for Priya. So, on one hand, Ram is developing feelings for one while being in another relationship that he consciously validates. On the other hand, their wedding rituals will be real, making Priya Ram's real wife and his developing feelings for Priya valid. This is the gray area.
I feel, Ram's dilemma will be which relationship he consciously considers valid: his real wedding rituals or his ILU confession.
As for me, I wouldn't be able to connect with either RaYa or RaKri if both are shown simultaneously. And that RaKri scenes will take away genuineness out of RaYa scenes. If he ended things with Kriti, or taken a break, like Rachel and Ross did, and then developed feelings for Priya it would have been much less messier.
There was a clause in the marriage contract that nobody is going to develop real feelings for each other, and that Priya can sue Ram if he tries to come close to her (well, that part is already breached, but anyway 🤣). So once anyone develops feelings for the other, the marriage contract is breached and the contract ends. (because normally when a contract is breached it ends, don't know the rules of Balh3 universe)
But the question is, does the real marriage (w.e.f. real marriage rituals) take precedence once this marriage contract is breached? And biggest question, will the audience get a clean break up from RaKri, or will Kriti keep hanging around like S2 Vedika? 😂
@Blue: I don't think divorce was discussed. As far I remember, the only discussion was that the length of contract was 3 months. But whether that means the marriage ends after three months, or the fake marriage ends and their real wedding rituals take precedence over the fake one, who knows.
I think right now Ram likes Priya and feels comfortable with her and vice versa. Kriti's insecurity may be somewhat valid given her seeing/hearing them as she has. But is Ram cheating? No. Where did this soulmate thing come from?
@bold, I appreciate your point about the marriage itself adding to whatever attraction develops (or develops further). Serials do emphasize on marriage vows and sacred bonds, and I guess that will weigh in, too. As you say, obviously at some point feelings will bloom, but I'm pretty sure it'll initially be unrealised, and when Ram does realise that maybe Priya is who he wants, he will probably go into denial to convince himself he's true to Kriti. IMO, there is no way cvs will compromise Ram. Ram will not cheat (and I'm not saying this out of admiration for, or great belief in, Ram, but judging from past experience). What's possible, in my view, is one of those situations that provoke a lipatna type of scene while things are still tangled. Very much hope that won't happen.
Kriti ain't going anywhere, regardless of whether Ram breaks with her. I trust maiyya and her love for extra wheels.
I'm 99.75% sure there will be no simultaneous carrying on with both. If there is any serious cheating, I will eat my words.
Thanks for the clarification re ending the contract. This must be among the most badly written and redundant contracts in history! 😂
Originally posted by: purplenpink
Pretty sure they’ve not discussed the details of the post-90 day plan: neither the CVs nor their characters are shown to have any level of thinking through.
The reasons for getting into this 3 months contract are as flimsy as it gets- both won’t hold up against any test of logic but the absence of that was never a hinderance for the writers clearly
Lol, true, what was I thinking? The contract's purpose isn't clarification, it's merely so they can use the term 'contract marriage ' and have the spectre of it hanging around to cause trouble as needed.
Reason and logic crying in a corner.
Originally posted by: DazzlingLight
My issue with BALH, both 2 and 3, is the way they execute tracks. We all know that the story is about Ram and Priya, so them getting attracted to each other is a given so their story can get going. My issue is when they throw in cutesy lollipops for the audience in the wrong places.
Eg. The dil ki dhadkan moment that played out during the engagement was so misplaced. They had 0 feelings for each other then..but it was inserted just to give the fans something to keep up the charchas alive on SM. Same thing when Priya lost balance and fell on Ram. The normal response when you fall on someone who's a relative stranger is stepping back when you regain balance, no? Ram and Priya's dance sequence mein, him touching her hair was a kind of intimate gesture that you wouldn't indulge in with someone with whom that comfort level is yet to be established. All these, for me, are them, especially Ram since he's still with someone, crossing boundaries. Show me Ram's thought process, of his reflection and comparison of moments with Priya v/s Kriti, give me a Ram who's starting to disconnect from Kriti BEFORE he goes touch feely with Priya. It's all in the mind, we don't really need them falling on each other to understand what's happening, and NM being the brilliant actor he is will be able to communicate all of that with just his eyes and a monologue.
The DKD moment in yesterday's episode was actually nice - a natural reaction to seeing someone in an entirely different avatar than you're used to seeing them in. In fact Pri's family also had a similar awestruck moment when they saw her all bride-like smiley1 It made sense yesterday, so did their entire banter unlike the earlier episodes.
As for what they're doing to the parents is a different story. That I'm choosing to fix in my story rather than continuing to rant here smiley37
Forgot to add, Ram and Priya have not been shown to sign a second contract yet. Shalu tore up the one Pri had made, and made Ram sign property papers instead. Ram's dialogue/idea was that the papers he had got made were still there and they could sign those. The next day Pri went to return the property papers to Ram but there was no mention of signing the new contract. How they will spin this only future episodes will tell us. This ambiguity is also one reason I need to see Ram disconnecting with Kriti, at least mentally, before we get into the eyelocks and stuff.
I think almost all serials fail to execute tracks in a satisfactory way. They bring up conflicts, scheming and other issues, and rarely have the patience or skill to complete them, because those conflicts, etc., aren't intended as more than providing fuel to keep people engaged, hoping for a proper denouement, usually in vain.
From the time they met, Ram has acted familiar with Priya, whether it's how he talks to her or, often, what rubbish he talks. He acts like he has enough familiarity to presume to advise her or fight with her. I am curious if he's just that kind of person, y'know, 'hail fellow, well met' type, with everyone or most people he meets.
Oh Lord, yes, that hilarious engagement 'fall' n 'catch' and holding on and on! Who does that!😂😂😂 Definitely put in for parched Raya hearts. I thought that bit where Ram asks her to get married and she puts a hand on his shoulder was even more artificial. It looked like that arm was independent of Priya.😆 I went and saw the engagement dil's dharkan after Nitya made me laugh with her description, and I swear they were trolling. Soooo awkward, it gave me secondhand embarrassment.
I agree with you, that the hair touching is kind of intimate with someone you barely know. I guess the frequency of such will increase, but without conscious thought ("oooh, he can't help himself"-invoking moments).
Of course, ideally, he should cut Kriti loose before he takes a single step in Priya's direction. But we know the cvs want to give viewers little tastes of lollipop, but also keep the extra wheels around and also want to maintain the threat posed by at least one, which looks like Kriti in this case. So I'm guessing some artificial conflict where Ram will be drawn to Priya, but be obligated to stick to his promise to Kriti (maybe her career tanking because she allegedly quit for him)? Therefore, he will be dutiful and tortured too! In between there'll probably be startled moments where nothing much happens but hearts beat fast, Ram realises Priya is his "one in a million", and stutters and fumbles more than ever. I'm just praying that there's no drunk Priya or Ram not able to help themselves, if you get me.
I just wanted to point out that so far nobody's cheating anyone, among the three. For now, breaking up with Kriti would only be a fake break anyway, which leaves everything in the same place. Ideally, Ram could just ask Kriti to stay away, but now she's conveniently Shardul's gf.
Actually, now I'm waiting to see how much they mess up post wedding.
Wth is all this with these contracts??? 🤯
Originally posted by: Mangs1303
I think right now Ram likes Priya and feels comfortable with her and vice versa. Kriti's insecurity may be somewhat valid given her seeing/hearing them as she has. But is Ram cheating? No. Where did this soulmate thing come from?
@bold, I appreciate your point about the marriage itself adding to whatever attraction develops (or develops further). Serials do emphasize on marriage vows and sacred bonds, and I guess that will weigh in, too. As you say, obviously at some point feelings will bloom, but I'm pretty sure it'll initially be unrealised, and when Ram does realise that maybe Priya is who he wants, he will probably go into denial to convince himself he's true to Kriti. IMO, there is no way cvs will compromise Ram. Ram will not cheat (and I'm not saying this out of admiration for, or great belief in, Ram, but judging from past experience). What's possible, in my view, is one of those situations that provoke a lipatna type of scene while things are still tangled. Very much hope that won't happen.
Kriti ain't going anywhere, regardless of whether Ram breaks with her. I trust maiyya and her love for extra wheels.
I'm 99.75% sure there will be no simultaneous carrying on with both. If there is any serious cheating, I will eat my words.
Thanks for the clarification re ending the contract. This must be among the most badly written and redundant contracts in history! 😂
@Blue:
There is no cheating before marriage. But it will be emotional cheating on Kriti, once Ram starts developing feelings for Priya, where cheating is defined as I had on my previous post. (Cheating can mean different things to different people, so I am keeping a definition to keep the discussion on track ) The soulmate thing was started by Ram's mom 😂 And looks like Ram is unknowingly toying with the idea, the more he is finding similarities between him and Dr. Priya.
@Green: I hope I could be as sure as you 😆 But I would be equally happy if your words about no cheating comes true.
Originally posted by: DreamOfEndless
@Blue:
There is no cheating before marriage. But it will be emotional cheating on Kriti, once Ram starts developing feelings for Priya, where cheating is defined as I had on my previous post. (Cheating can mean different things to different people, so I am keeping a definition to keep the discussion on track ) The soulmate thing was started by Ram's mom 😂 And looks like Ram is unknowingly toying with the idea, the more he is finding similarities between him and Dr. Priya.
@Green: I hope I could be as sure as you 😆 But I would be equally happy if your words about no cheating comes true.
@bold: This! The emotional cheating is way worse (for me personally) to watch than physical cheating. We had enough of Ram mooning over Vedu in S2, so given S3 was limited RaKri could have been given a clean breakup!
Unfortunately as it looks now, we're going to be in a grey area as far as Ram's feelings towards Priya/Kriti go.
Now Ram is already swapping the real and the fake. Priya and everything connected with her becomes real, and even, by the gods, a fictitious marriage. Fake - Kriti and feelings for her that Ram cherished until he saw someone else (Priya) as something that is his comfort zone. Even if he talks about love a hundred times, she will not become one, in a deep sense. Even now, Ram and Priya are going through some deeper things. After the ritual, it will escalate. Both can hide and not think about feelings, but the fact that both do not even utter the word divorce clearly speaks of their subconscious intentions. They never said that word even in private. Without any possibility of exposure, so it's not about the parents, the plan or anything else. They already need each other
